Post a book published after 1980 that you think will be considered a landmark work in the future. Can be fiction or non-fiction.
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Post a book published after 1980 that you think will be considered a landmark work in the future.
My money used to be on Blood Meridian but it just became a reddit meme for edglords.
Reddit is one of the most used websites. If a literary book is popular there it is closer to being a classic than a book not mentioned there. You guys have to get over your IQfy/Reddit dichotomy. At this point every book is Reddit because Reddit is a more popular site with more discussion about books
thank you kind stranger
stop trying to kill our culture and make everywhere on the internet the same
>IQfy culture
It’s gone. Even the meme trilogy is a shibboleth now. Nu-IQfy culture is basically IQfy culture. It’s all homogenized. I wish there was a IQfy culture but the impression remains that not many read or enjoy reading here
>not many read or enjoy reading here
That was always the case. Literature itself was always a means to an end but if the end is "looking like you know about literature" then it at least confines the discussion and the culture to a relatively distinct sphere - on the other hand, if the end is the same culture war arguments that happen everywhere else, then the culture gets homogenized.
In the end it was always shitty and gay so it's whatever. But still a nonzero loss.
What do you think the difference is between “looking like you know literature” and “actually liking literature”?
Having read books outside the top 100 or genregay equivalent because you like reading. Developing personal tastes. Having an autistic interest because you enjoy a given author or movement. Reading contemporary lit out of some kind of forlorn hope that something may be at least mildly entertaining, if not profound.
Some anons definitely do like reading, myself included; been doing it for probably 15 years. I do agree there are way too many “means to an end” anons here and it’s arguably killed the board as the pretenses get slighter and slighter. If any anons are reading this and have the cause and effect mixed up, ie they start on IQfy and read because of IQfy, and don’t come here because they read, they need to take a long look in the mirror because that is just silly and embarrassing
>but the impression remains that not many read or enjoy reading here
Right, I don't like to read but I want the minimum knowledge to be an intellectual LARP.
Using that logic Brandon Sanderson will be regarded on the level of Dickens in a few decades time.
>if a literary book is popular…
Reddit is garbage though. It's like that bland guy you get stuck next to at a party who is nice and all but cracks obvious jokes that make you roll your eyes.
What is a book that has gained traction on IQfy not for meme purposes that isn’t talked about on reddit? You guys give this board way too much credit. Even the meme trilogy is past culture now.
Tarka the Otter
There’s like 3 anons who push the book. 1 or 2 doing more than others but not exactly shilling it hard. I’d also be surprised if it had no posts on reddit
things don't get bad because they become popular but because they become popular by the wrong people, redditors are unhinged and delusional and now if they like your favorite book for all the wrong reasons any discussion of that book on the internet becomes moronic since it spreads to other sites and becomes filled with half assed assessment with the accompanying lingo of redditors and how everything is allegory of depression or le capitalism bad, these people believe you can hurt others feelings by text even while completely anonymous they are obviously brain damaged
Don’t judge books by looking at the crowd. Disliking something because the crowd likes it is as bad as liking something just because the crowd likes it. Both look towards others to base their tastes. Be a man of yourself, like and dislike what YOU like and dislike, not looking towards the crowd
That has nothing to do with the Book itself and it was already popular in all internet lit circles since at least mid 00s.
Next you gonna tell me IQfy didn’t rediscover Stoner?!?!
Fairly surprising it has not had a resurgence.
harry potter
i consider the unconsoled one of the greatest novels ever
i'm too drunk to really prove the case or even check it was written in that timeframe but trust me
This has been on my radar for a while, albeit far down the list. I loved TRotD. What are the selling points of this book? Anything you can compare it to?
i guess it's kinda kafkaesque?
it's pretty unique tbh
it's this giant anxiety dream of a novel where we learn everything about a guy through this shifting world where he has all these obligations and tasks that are constantly changing in that fluid natural but unsettling ways dreams (and your mind) do
you know how in the return of the day the real meat of it is the psyche of the guy himself, how he has built up this version of himself as this pure and noble figure that the narrative undercuts and it's implied he understands on some level that his life is a waste but is trying to desparately rationalise it?
it's that but in this hilarious weird dreamscape that gets more and more absurd and yet moving
Came here to post this. Great choice anon. Novel was published in 1995 so you're good with the timeframe.
Any non-fiction works you would consider seminal?
2666
1984
Kek it’s celebrating its 30th birthday this year
Blood Meridian
Infinite Jest
White Noise
American Psycho
IMO the massive memeification and ad nauseum discussion of these works online is simply proof of their importance.
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Goddamn you. I can here to post 1982, Janine.
One day it will be rediscovered and Mark Z. Danielewski will be exposed as a fraud.
The Fractal Geometry of Nature, Benoit Mandelbrot
The Ruin of Kasch Kasch, Roberto Calasso
Memories of a Russian Punk, Eduard
Limonov
America Against America, Wang Huning
2666, Roberto Bolaño
Submission, Michel Houellebecq
My Year of Rest and Relaxation, Ottessa Moshfegh
How the frick are you able to understand Calasso’s hardest and greatest book and still suggest “My year of rest and relaxation”? Its femcel trash with a 911 gimmick for US readers
It's the roasty Celine, and if you can't appreciate that idk what to tell you
I still don’t understand how people on this board get filtered by this book. Calling it femcel is like calling American Psycho an incel fantasy.
I will spell it out for you: the novel is about all the devastating circumstances the narrator doesn’t want to talk about. The character goes through hundreds of pages of cope. The novel is also about the pathetic state of contemporary “conceptual” art. And of course about gender and women’s issues, self respect and childhood trauma and all that shit.
The point is the narrator is unreliable, her views and behaviours are childish and emotionally stunted. This is very similar to American Psycho, who is also not an archetype to emulate.
The Elementary Particles
Austerlitz
The Melancholy of Resistance
A Confederacy of Dunces
Realistically? Something by Palahniuk. Maybe his mentor Tom Spanbauer. I've grown out of that Minimalist, edgy modernist autoficiton because it became so pervasive, but I think that something in there will be more than a footnote of 80s/90s lit. It's hard to say because the last time I read a lot of fiction from that period was damn near 15 years ago.
I ask this to anons as a supplement.
What books stuck with you or became part of you? I seem to have forgotten many of the more contemporary works that climbed inside me and did weird things.
Psychotron
The Tunnel
Anything by Krasznahorkai
McCarthy's Blood Meridian, The Road, or Horses Trilogy (obvious but it's true)
Septology
Solenoid
L'Academie
2666
Ducks Newburyport
Waiting for the Barbarians
The Death of Jesus
Infinite Jest
White Noise
My soon to be finished book