>many cheats could then just run on the host, manipulating or analyzing the VM in a way that would be invisible to Vanguard within it
What stops somebody from running Windows in a VM and doing the same?
Anti-cheat has never, ever, ever, ever, ever stopped cheaters and it never will. Just like anti-piracy bs, all they are doing is hurting real players.
maybe I'm wrong because I'm not a homosexual who plays league or valorant, but some anti cheat software can detect you're in a vm (on windows) and block you. I imagine this is also the case with vanguard
There is no true cure all for cheats(on the client side) because any competent cheat developer can just go >lmao xd
And put their stuff a level above the anti-cheat. >anti-cheat fingers your entire machine's butthole like a doctor doing a prostate exam
Cheaters run a VM >anti-cheat props up VM detection
Cheaters use hardware level cheats
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waiting for dedicated game machines with tamper protection
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>Consoles
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The sad part about this is that cheaters were never even a problem in league, even if you cheat every single game you can barely ever win a game solo. The reason this shit got added was because big streamers kept crying about muh cheaters when it was really just stream snipers, which won't get fixed by anticheat.
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I've been playing league since 2009 and NEVER have I witnessed someone cheating
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I want to go back when we had old GP and ARAMS were custom-made games.
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This is what I don't understand. I don't play myself, but all my friends who play league say there's no cheaters. Why do they need Vanguard?
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>Why do they need Vanguard?
To spy on you obviously
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I've played thousands of games through all elos and have only seen a handful of cheaters in that time, yet the article they posted states that there's a cheater for every 10 games. It's clearly a pretext to implement this malware.
I want to go back when we had old GP and ARAMS were custom-made games.
Those were the times... now, it's some anime ADHD simulator.
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>Those were the times... now, it's some anime ADHD simulator.
I was absolutely disgusted at the level of gacha bullshit now in the game. It's now game for bugs with fried dopamine receptors.
Did you get to play dominion?
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I only played a few games of Dominion and Twisted Treeline. I didn't play that much in those times--just normals with friends. I picked up the game seriously during the pandemic, but even in the span of a few years, the game changed so much--and not in a good way. I stopped playing a lot about a year and a half ago but uninstalled completely once I heard about Vanguard.
Only if the vm exposes that information. It does by default but you can disable it
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you don't know how VMs work, so it's better to keep your mouth shut. vanguard is not gonna work on any VM. it needs to run straight on the hardware
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nice cope
you can absolutely do transparent virtualization if you're handy with a debugger and the source code
i remember when i was in uni having to trick this shitty windows/mac-only locked down browser software to run in a vm since i didnt feel like going to the library to take a test in my online classes
every year this becomes less of a shitpost and more of a sound recommendation. I think they have done it; they made new games obsolete just like there are 0 movies i know made after 2020... maybe 2018... idk....do they make movies anymore? Same for games.Btw I am watching a movie right now: Baby's Day Out made in 1994 - it is funny to ask if movies even exist while watching one. And yes, there is a woman in the room. A real one. I am not her.
its relevant: western games and movies have stopped being made after around 2012. any made after that are literal malware.
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This but unironically, even anime is on the decline since 2012. Maybe the maya were right all along, 2012 was the peak of humanity and now everything gets worse again.
This. The easy access to old, niche, and foreign media means new, mainstream, domestic media has to compete with all of it. Monoculture is dead, for better or worse.
bricking people PCs who play this by locking the bootloader into TPM 2.0 but if you dont have a EFI partition your boot loader will never start.
BASED THAT WHAT I CALL IT
Vanguard never worked on Valorant. I still cheat to this day with basic authotkey shit. This shit doesn't work, never will.
Besides being malware by definition, Riot have been breached in the past, they didn't audit this shit at all and they're already on full damage control.
Someone at Riot is one commit away from fricking a gazillion morons, they don't care, you don't care, it's a fricking disaster.
Vanguard might make cheating harder, (eg you might need a Raspberry Pi to read out ram then send back mouse input) but it is so much more reliable to just make anti cheat on server side;
eg send ghost players behind walls to players and see if they react to it to figure out if they are wallhacking or only send opponent locations when they can actually be seen
afaik, vanguard just arbitrary screenshots your game window during the game and if it sees anything that is not supposed to be there, then you'll get banned.
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why the hell would it need root access then? it 100% does more than that.
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yes, it obviously needs more than that. But screenshot thing is enough for detecting almost all wh cheats. Root access needed for triggerbot/aimbot that are certainly harder to detect.
left >hed emty (they put him there because he is a chad in the eyes of a teen playing lol)
right >i cant believe the highups think we will get away with this
Honestly older people (most of them) in law don't know a whole lot about technology but they do care about national security. A case could be made that they're Chinese spies.
here is context >riot games is an american company >tencent owns a majority stake in the company
nobody will say anything, china is getting none of that data and you might even see tencent make noise and threaten to pull out after they have trouble bribing american officials.
Once again IQfy is right: the only solution is racism. it is up to IQfy to find how to isolate the malware or how to install the idea in people's heads that they do not need to play league.
neither have I but the kid next door does play it and him being monitored by chinese authorities bothers me, not because i care about him or anything but because that just seems wrong. >but phones
a computer is supposed to be an extension of your brain, something you impregnate, a phone is not that, everybody knows and accepts it.
Video games can make people money now(esports, streaming, competitions and such) so I can.
Introduce money into a hobby and you'll see people doing all sorts of shit to get a one up on others, including cheating.
>hurr our waste of time entertainment product is so important we need to backdoor your computer because gayming is serious business
These people belong in fricking prison.
Daily reminder this is what (they) want us to believe
>many cheats could then just run on the host, manipulating or analyzing the VM in a way that would be invisible to Vanguard within it
What stops somebody from running Windows in a VM and doing the same?
Anti-cheat has never, ever, ever, ever, ever stopped cheaters and it never will. Just like anti-piracy bs, all they are doing is hurting real players.
maybe I'm wrong because I'm not a homosexual who plays league or valorant, but some anti cheat software can detect you're in a vm (on windows) and block you. I imagine this is also the case with vanguard
There is no true cure all for cheats(on the client side) because any competent cheat developer can just go
>lmao xd
And put their stuff a level above the anti-cheat.
>anti-cheat fingers your entire machine's butthole like a doctor doing a prostate exam
Cheaters run a VM
>anti-cheat props up VM detection
Cheaters use hardware level cheats
waiting for dedicated game machines with tamper protection
>Consoles
The sad part about this is that cheaters were never even a problem in league, even if you cheat every single game you can barely ever win a game solo. The reason this shit got added was because big streamers kept crying about muh cheaters when it was really just stream snipers, which won't get fixed by anticheat.
I've been playing league since 2009 and NEVER have I witnessed someone cheating
I want to go back when we had old GP and ARAMS were custom-made games.
This is what I don't understand. I don't play myself, but all my friends who play league say there's no cheaters. Why do they need Vanguard?
>Why do they need Vanguard?
To spy on you obviously
I've played thousands of games through all elos and have only seen a handful of cheaters in that time, yet the article they posted states that there's a cheater for every 10 games. It's clearly a pretext to implement this malware.
Those were the times... now, it's some anime ADHD simulator.
>Those were the times... now, it's some anime ADHD simulator.
I was absolutely disgusted at the level of gacha bullshit now in the game. It's now game for bugs with fried dopamine receptors.
Did you get to play dominion?
I only played a few games of Dominion and Twisted Treeline. I didn't play that much in those times--just normals with friends. I picked up the game seriously during the pandemic, but even in the span of a few years, the game changed so much--and not in a good way. I stopped playing a lot about a year and a half ago but uninstalled completely once I heard about Vanguard.
>What stops somebody from running Windows in a VM and doing the same?
Vanguard
>What stops somebody from running Windows in a VM and doing the same?
You can detect you are operating in a VM incredibly easily.
Only if the vm exposes that information. It does by default but you can disable it
you don't know how VMs work, so it's better to keep your mouth shut. vanguard is not gonna work on any VM. it needs to run straight on the hardware
nice cope
you can absolutely do transparent virtualization if you're handy with a debugger and the source code
i remember when i was in uni having to trick this shitty windows/mac-only locked down browser software to run in a vm since i didnt feel like going to the library to take a test in my online classes
I cannot believe people aren't playing lol on the steam deck
They do, they are basically just admitting that they can't even detect Linux
Don't play westroon goyslop "games"
every year this becomes less of a shitpost and more of a sound recommendation. I think they have done it; they made new games obsolete just like there are 0 movies i know made after 2020... maybe 2018... idk....do they make movies anymore? Same for games.Btw I am watching a movie right now: Baby's Day Out made in 1994 - it is funny to ask if movies even exist while watching one. And yes, there is a woman in the room. A real one. I am not her.
its relevant: western games and movies have stopped being made after around 2012. any made after that are literal malware.
This but unironically, even anime is on the decline since 2012. Maybe the maya were right all along, 2012 was the peak of humanity and now everything gets worse again.
This. The easy access to old, niche, and foreign media means new, mainstream, domestic media has to compete with all of it. Monoculture is dead, for better or worse.
Gweislop foreveryone
is this a riot marketing campaign or a competitor?
nobody cares about this except maybe cheat designers
Guy on the left looks a lot like Jeffrey Dahmer.
The guy on the left literally looks like
>if only you knew how bad things really are
bricking people PCs who play this by locking the bootloader into TPM 2.0 but if you dont have a EFI partition your boot loader will never start.
BASED THAT WHAT I CALL IT
guy on the left looks like hes being held captive
dude on the left looks like that one image of a chud shooped to look like a chad
Vanguard never worked on Valorant. I still cheat to this day with basic authotkey shit. This shit doesn't work, never will.
Besides being malware by definition, Riot have been breached in the past, they didn't audit this shit at all and they're already on full damage control.
Someone at Riot is one commit away from fricking a gazillion morons, they don't care, you don't care, it's a fricking disaster.
Vanguard might make cheating harder, (eg you might need a Raspberry Pi to read out ram then send back mouse input) but it is so much more reliable to just make anti cheat on server side;
eg send ghost players behind walls to players and see if they react to it to figure out if they are wallhacking or only send opponent locations when they can actually be seen
Or have an stealth hacker queue like Titanfall did
>raspberry pi to read out ram then send back mouse input
fricking KEK where did you get that idea from?
That's actually how one of the russian valorant cheats works. They require you to buy certain arduino model and then buy the cheat.
10 years ago in counter strike
detected by vanguard btw even if you emulate the mouse perfectly with your rpi mitm
>see if they react
define this in computers terms and you will see the problem
i mean, there is no "send the player the information". Wallhacking works at a rendering level on your machine
afaik, vanguard just arbitrary screenshots your game window during the game and if it sees anything that is not supposed to be there, then you'll get banned.
why the hell would it need root access then? it 100% does more than that.
yes, it obviously needs more than that. But screenshot thing is enough for detecting almost all wh cheats. Root access needed for triggerbot/aimbot that are certainly harder to detect.
>anti cheat on server side
this costs them money.
The best response is to simply quit the game. They already ruined the game--Vanguard is the just the cherry on top.
Kill all leaguegays
left
>hed emty (they put him there because he is a chad in the eyes of a teen playing lol)
right
>i cant believe the highups think we will get away with this
Honestly older people (most of them) in law don't know a whole lot about technology but they do care about national security. A case could be made that they're Chinese spies.
here is context
>riot games is an american company
>tencent owns a majority stake in the company
nobody will say anything, china is getting none of that data and you might even see tencent make noise and threaten to pull out after they have trouble bribing american officials.
Subhuman npc Black folk who play V*l*r*nt or L**gu* will NEVER be human.
I play pic related.
>used to play 12 years ago.
Funny how China can control your computer and steal all your data, as long as they don't show you what's happening in Palestine.
Once again IQfy is right: the only solution is racism. it is up to IQfy to find how to isolate the malware or how to install the idea in people's heads that they do not need to play league.
#1 cheater population is Poland, just ban Poland for optimal payoff
I have no problem with this, even if it was not exactly believable.
Don't care, I've never played it
neither have I but the kid next door does play it and him being monitored by chinese authorities bothers me, not because i care about him or anything but because that just seems wrong.
>but phones
a computer is supposed to be an extension of your brain, something you impregnate, a phone is not that, everybody knows and accepts it.
No one gives a shit. Why don't you Black person cry about it on your shitty discord.
You just quit the game. If you keep playing even after this, you're the dumbest moron goy.
No one in this veiled IQfy thread knows what a kernel OR a rootkit is.
no shit, lol only runs for me when I turn off vanguard
if any anon knows what to do / how to abuse this, I will gladly aid you
I simply don't believe people are doing all this just to cheat in video games
Video games can make people money now(esports, streaming, competitions and such) so I can.
Introduce money into a hobby and you'll see people doing all sorts of shit to get a one up on others, including cheating.
Don’t care I’m still cheating and ruining the experience for everyone else because it’s FUN
>hurr our waste of time entertainment product is so important we need to backdoor your computer because gayming is serious business
These people belong in fricking prison.
multiplayer games aren't worth playing anyways