What does IQfy think of prose poetry? Anyone got any prose poems to share, either from a poet they appreciate or one they've written themselves?
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What does IQfy think of prose poetry? Anyone got any prose poems to share, either from a poet they appreciate or one they've written themselves?
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not poetry but some of my favorites from Borges are The Library of Babel and The House of Asterion. both are in Labyrinths.
«PROSE POEM»; LIKE AN «ATHEISTIC CATHOLIC»?
midwit, please define what is prose, then define what is a poem. you will try and fail to support your original thesis.
I'd be glad to hear why its legitimate to call it poetry, but I cant see how. The very fundamental definition of prose is that its not poetry and the reverse of that for poetry.
POESY («POETRY»): VERSE; VERSE: METERED SENTENCES.
PROSE: METERLESS SENTENCES; NOT VERSE: NOT POESY («POETRY»).
Meanwhile in the real world, a large percent of "prose" sentences actually follow meter, because that's just the rhythm that language follows.
Neither poetry nor prose needs to be sentences. In fact, some verses from the Bible seem to be this, does that preclude them from being either?
Poetry doesn't have to be metered. The Hebrew Song of Songs is this.
I'm really tired of seeing your 110 IQ posts Kevin.
>Meanwhile in the real world, a large percent of "prose" sentences actually follow meter, because that's just the rhythm that language follows.
IN THE ONLY WORLD THAT THERE IS, SPONTANEOUS VERSE DOES NOT TURN A TEXT IWRITTEN N PROSE INTO POESY («POETRY»).
>Neither poetry nor prose needs to be sentences. In fact, some verses from the Bible seem to be this, does that preclude them from being either?
NON SEQVITVR.
>Poetry doesn't have to be metered. The Hebrew Song of Songs is this.
THE ESSENTIAL FACTOR OF VERSE IS METER: NO METER, NO VERSE; NO VERSE, NO POESY («POETRY»).
THE CANTICLE OF CANTICLES IS IN VERSE.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_poetry
>I'm really tired of seeing your 110 IQ posts Kevin.
DISAPPEAR, MORON.
>IN THE ONLY WORLD THAT THERE IS, SPONTANEOUS VERSE DOES NOT TURN A TEXT IWRITTEN N PROSE INTO POESY («POETRY»).
Where's the fine line between poetry and prose? There isn't. Your post agrees with me. If a series of words has meter, it's verse, and much prose is in meter. Therefore they are sufficiently poetry.
>NON SEQVITVR.
It's very relevant. Some parts of the Bible may not even be able to be considered sentences, because they don't follow obvious grammar. Some are more like scattered oracles. Read the Hebrew.
>THE CANTICLE OF CANTICLES IS IN VERSE.
That link doesn't show your claim. Read the Hebrew, idiot. There's no strict meter.
Here I'll spoonfeed you Kevin. The link you posted actually supports me.
>The rhythm of Hebrew poetry may be similar to that of the German Nibelungenlied — a view that is strongly supported by the nature of the songs sung by the populace of Palestine in the early 20th century. These songs have been described by L. Schneller[27] in the following words:
> "The rhythms are manifold; there may be eight accents in one line, and three syllables are often inserted between two accents, the symmetry and variation being determined by emotion and sentiment."
>Also in Palestine, Gustaf Hermann Dalman observed:
> "Lines with two, three, four, and five accented syllables may be distinguished, between which one to three, and even four, unaccented syllables may be inserted, the poet being bound by no definite number in his poem. Occasionally two accented syllables are joined".[28]
See? Some of the lines considered poetry don't even follow meter. Some lines are compressed to force fit meter, but that makes these lines equally prose.
>Such free rhythms are, in Davidson's opinion, found also in the poetry of the Old Testament. Under the stress of their thoughts and feelings the poets of Israel sought to achieve merely the material, not the formal symmetry of corresponding lines. This may be observed, for example, in the following lines of Psalm 2: "Serve the LORD with fear" ('Ibdu et-Yhwh be-yir'ah, 2:11), "rejoice with trembling" (we-gilu bi-re'adah).
Free rhythms that don't always obey formally even meter. So according to you, Kevin, Biblical poetry is not poetry. Do you really want to keep blaspheming?
Stunning silence from Kevin. I accept your concession.
I'm glad I was able to educate my fellow Catholic.
Poetry is doggy-style
Prose is spit-roasting
Poetry must have a rhythm to it. A beat. You need to be able to chant it to the plucking of a lyre, as was done in the ancient times. That's the definition I find most useful.
Ergo, prose poetry is not poetry at all.
Much prose poetry has a rhythm, much of prose has a rhythm. Ergo they can be poetry.
>the greatest part of poets have appareled their poetical inventions in that numberous kind of writing which is called verse. Indeed but appareled, verse being but an ornament and no cause to poetry, since there have been many most excellent poets that never versified, and now swarm many versifiers that need never answer to the name of poets. For Xenophon, who did imitate so excellently as to give us effigiem justi imperii—the portraiture of a just empire under the name of Cyrus (as Cicero says of him)—made therein an absolute heroical poem; so did Heliodorus in his sugared invention of that picture of love in Theagenes and Chariclea; and yet both these wrote in prose. Which I speak to show that it is not riming and versing that makes a poet—no more than a long gown makes an advocate, who, though he pleaded in armor, should be an advocate and no soldier—but it is that feigning notable images of virtues, vices, or what else, with that delightful teaching, which must be the right describing note to know a poet by.
I inherited a dark wood where I seldom go. But a day will come when the dead and the living trade places. The wood will be set in motion. We are not without hope. The most serious crimes will remain unsolved in spite of the efforts of many policemen. In the same way there is somewhere in our lives a great unsolved love. I inherited a dark wood, but today I’m walking in the other wood, the light one. All the living creatures that sing, wriggle, wag, and crawl! It’s spring and the air is very strong. I have graduated from the university of oblivion and am as empty-handed as the shirt on the clothesline.
The Tom Bombadil chapters from Tolkien or this from Gormenghast.
Towards thee I roll,
Thou all-destroying but unconquering whale;
To the last I grapple with thee; from hell’s heart
I stab at thee; For hate’s sake I spit my
Last breath at thee.
Sink all coffins and all hearses
To one common pool! and since neither
Can be mine, let me then tow to pieces,
While still chasing thee, though tied to thee,
Thou damned whale! Thus, I give up the spear!
im moronic and want to read various poetry to expand my vocabulary or get my neutrons activated
any ebooks to start with?
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These are really unoriginal recommendations but I think the greatest “prose poetry” I’ve ever read has been in the opening 3 chapters of Ulysses specifically (the infamous Dedalus chapters, which some others hate but which I always loved), maybe the Scylla and Charybdis chapter too (Stephen talking about his theories on Shakespeare and Hamlet), and secondly many parts of Moby Dick, particularly the dramatic monologues given by Ahab, besides the shipmates Stubb, Flask and Starbuck, and the chapters in Moby Dick written like plays, in consciously Shakespearean (or maybe even Miltonic) language.