I’m tired of dreading hell all the time and feeling like I’m not good enough and constantly having to work harder to attain heaven. I’m tired of focusing on the guilt part of this faith rather than the joy aspect. Sola fide is looking more and more attractive.
The bible doesn't support sola fide
Of course it does. It’s a matter of emphasis. The ingredients are there, same as the ingredients are there for the papacy. It’s a matter of interpretation.
Nope
>What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him?
15If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food,
16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
Doesn’t mean works justify. This is articulating the kind of faith which justifies.
Don't change argument; sola fide (faith alone) is worthless without works
Correct me if I’m wrong but if works do not in fact justify us then it can only be faith which justifies us. Hence, peace with God.
Are you a broken record? Faith alone isn't enough, the bible says that clearly you need both
I dunno, the main message I get from the Bible is just to believe in Jesus’ salvation.
Why are you ignoring the very plain and clear wording of
?
A living, saving faith exhibits works yes. But do you believe your works qualify you for that justification? Or is a living, saving faith the gift of God?
Then you'll hate Protestantism because a lot of it is being told every two seconds you're going to hell
Most Protestant sects are even more obsessed with heaven and hell than Catholicism. Avoid any type of Baptists or Calvinists (Presbyterians, Congregationalists, some Anglicans/Episcopalians). Also most non-denominational churches are essentially just Baptists. Lutherans are pretty chill.
What does that leave left? The only Lutherans in my city are the LGBT kind. I am just considering checking out some evangelical churches. I want as mainstream (“down the centre”) a Bible interpretation as possible.
Are you certain?
https://ilcouncil.org/
Oh ok I found one.
I too was weary of being on a pendulum of extreme despair and pride when I was in the Catholic Church. I found the truth, assurance in my salvation, and comfort of the gospel with the Protestant church.
Amen - Job 41:11 “Who has given to Me that I should repay him? Whatever is under the whole heaven is Mine.
>Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Works flow out of faith, you are not saved by them, but by the undeserved grace of God. God bless.
>Prods
>Not talking about hell 24/7
Why worship a failed pedophile messiah?
Who brought up Mohammed?
>Watches four episodes of Shogun
Shogun is Protestant pilled? I got to watch it now.
so are you just pretending that the god of the bible is real? do you show up on sunday and act like all the mythological stories actually happened even though it's a LARP for you and everyone else in the church? please explain the though process behind participating in abrahamic religion? you're just going to do the easy thing regardless of what the scriptures say.
There is no such thing as hell or sin because NDEs are unironically irrefutable proof that heaven really is awaiting us because (1) people see things during their NDEs when they are out of their bodies that they should not be able to under the assumption that the brain creates consciousness, and (2) anyone can have an NDE and everyone is convinced by it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U00ibBGZp7o
So any atheist would be too, so pic related is literally irrefutable proof of life after death. As one NDEr pointed out:
>"I'm still trying to fit it in with this dream that I'm walking around in, in this world. The reality of the experience is undeniable. This world that we live in, this game that we play called life is almost a phantom in comparison to the reality of that."
If NDEs were hallucinations somehow then extreme atheists and neuroscientists who had NDEs would maintain that they were halluinations after having them. But the opposite happens as NDEs convince every skeptic when they have a really deep NDE themselves.
Could all of you abrahamic cultists piss off and come back only when you have something to contribute?
I think that'd be great.