>Psalm 139:15~16 My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them. >Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. >Isaiah 44:2 Thus saith the LORD that made thee, and formed thee from the womb, which will help thee; Fear not, O Jacob, my servant; and thou, Jesurun, whom I have chosen.
Where does it say that the soul is given at conception?
1 month ago
Anonymous
If you go off of Genesis 2:7 >And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
The soul is breathed into him at his formation. Occurring when it becomes a unique, individual being, which would be when the sperm and the egg unite.
1 month ago
Anonymous
According to most interpreters Adam was created as a fully grown adult. Isn't that a relevant difference?
1 month ago
Anonymous
No, the process is still the same in the womb. The soul is conceived as an idea, then it is breathed out into the creation.
1 month ago
Anonymous
If it's like Adam, shouldn't the soul be breathed in after the body is formed, i.e. late in fetal development?
1 month ago
Anonymous
So in Identical twins it's when each sperm enter the egg?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>nostrils the breath of life
really sounds like it means that soul is given upon birth
you may procceed to cope
this is such a moron statment >someone tells you what they belive and where they got it from(something that you cant really prove in any way without having faith/believe ) >muh just because your holy book says so
fricking moron
1 month ago
Anonymous
so you're saying only through faith can someone know about the soul?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>it's moronic point out that your reason to believe something is invalid
Now THAT's a cope.
1 month ago
Anonymous
yea thats the fricking thing with such stuff that you in my opinion cannot prove without faith and if someone tries to explain to you what they belive through their faith you cant just say >well thats just because your book says so
why do you think christians believe in hell/heaven ?because they were told about it in the holy bible its the same with the soul
and if they are asked to explain it then they will of course quote their holy book from where they got it from is that so hard to understand ?
so you're saying only through faith can someone know about the soul?
kinda its hard to prove to someone it in any other way in my opinion just like for example what live after death (for example heaven/hell) is without faith you cant really belive in it
1 month ago
Anonymous
>why do you think christians believe in hell/heaven ?because they were told about it in the holy bible its the same with the soul
That's the problem. They have no good reason to believe, yet they believe anyways. Dumb fricks.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Everything the Bible says is proven to be true.
^fact checked statement: True.
God's "objective morality" involves things like putting semen in my food for playing the video game imperator rome which he believes he can justify doing any time he wants because I once jerk offd while thinking about women drinking other women's breast milk. God is a moronic disgusting homosexual troony Black person who rapes my mind every second of every day and abuses me for literally anything I think or do. By his own standards of "objective morality" any of his troony hivemind puppets who rape my mind should be lobotomized, and they should have their genitals removed for putting semen in my food. God is a disgusting moronic sadist who forces me to act as the sole frame of reference for material reality so he can abuse and domiante me through a moronic troony hivemind that is entirely controlled by him and that rapes my mind and gangstalks me every second of every day, he believes anything I think or do can be used as an excuse to abuse me but that nothing bad should ever happen to the people he abuses me through no matter how evil their behavior towards me is. God is "objectively" an evil moronic troony whose behavior is completely and totally unjustifiable
I actually believe a 'soul' takes time to develop. I believe once a baby is born and lives separately from the mother (umbilical cord is cut), that is when the soul first starts to form.
It takes time though, for the first year or so, babies can't even form memories let alone be self aware. I think by the time a baby is 1-2 years old that's when the soul is first there, and as we get older, the soul becomes more profound and complex as we explore life.
The calcium etc comes from the mother through her blood
1 month ago
Anonymous
so there's bones in her blood?
1 month ago
Anonymous
The calcium etc comes from the mother through her blood
1 month ago
Anonymous
okay so what you're saying is that there's no soul since we havent determined where it comes from?
1 month ago
Anonymous
What i'm saying is we can observe how these things happen. We can actually observe the skeleton forming and we know were it comes from
As opposed to a sperm cell swimming into an egg and then supposedly a soul just shows up
which we then can't observe in any form ever
1 month ago
Anonymous
there was a time when we couldnt observe these things happening though.
would it or would it not be a logical error to say that because we cant observe these things happening they "just show up"?
1 month ago
Anonymous
it would've been a logical error if someone said they knew how bones was made if they couldn't observe how they were made and was just pulling said explanation out of their ass
1 month ago
Anonymous
Does anyone say they know HOW a soul is made? I’ve only heard people try to explain why* it exists.
N/A
Yes.
God creates it at conception.
how do you know?
>Psalm 139:15~16 My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.
>Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
>Isaiah 44:2 Thus saith the LORD that made thee, and formed thee from the womb, which will help thee; Fear not, O Jacob, my servant; and thou, Jesurun, whom I have chosen.
Where does it say that the soul is given at conception?
If you go off of Genesis 2:7
>And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
The soul is breathed into him at his formation. Occurring when it becomes a unique, individual being, which would be when the sperm and the egg unite.
According to most interpreters Adam was created as a fully grown adult. Isn't that a relevant difference?
No, the process is still the same in the womb. The soul is conceived as an idea, then it is breathed out into the creation.
If it's like Adam, shouldn't the soul be breathed in after the body is formed, i.e. late in fetal development?
So in Identical twins it's when each sperm enter the egg?
>nostrils the breath of life
really sounds like it means that soul is given upon birth
you may procceed to cope
>a book says it
So?
this is such a moron statment
>someone tells you what they belive and where they got it from(something that you cant really prove in any way without having faith/believe )
>muh just because your holy book says so
fricking moron
so you're saying only through faith can someone know about the soul?
>it's moronic point out that your reason to believe something is invalid
Now THAT's a cope.
yea thats the fricking thing with such stuff that you in my opinion cannot prove without faith and if someone tries to explain to you what they belive through their faith you cant just say
>well thats just because your book says so
why do you think christians believe in hell/heaven ?because they were told about it in the holy bible its the same with the soul
and if they are asked to explain it then they will of course quote their holy book from where they got it from is that so hard to understand ?
kinda its hard to prove to someone it in any other way in my opinion just like for example what live after death (for example heaven/hell) is without faith you cant really belive in it
>why do you think christians believe in hell/heaven ?because they were told about it in the holy bible its the same with the soul
That's the problem. They have no good reason to believe, yet they believe anyways. Dumb fricks.
Everything the Bible says is proven to be true.
^fact checked statement: True.
Every single cell has a soul
Neither. Your soul is immaterial and permeates throughout the universe at all times, "your" body is merely a receiver/antenna for the soul.
So does the semen or the egg hold the receiver/antenna?
I guess both because that's what forms the body
so identical twins get part of same egg antenna?
The body is the antenna
And your mouth is the exhaust pipe
Tbh i wasn't the op who said this but i agree with him i'd say the body is more of a vessel
What if pass under a tunnel and have no signal?
That's why it gets dark, you briefly lose your soul
what part of the body is the antenna?
the body part
So when i clip a fingernail is the fingernail still picking up some soul?
No
If i lose my arms and legs do i lose part of my antenna?
You don't lose any part of your soul if that's what you're asking
What if i get a heart transplant?
You realize you can just replace "soul" with "life" in your questions and you'll have your answers right
so alive semen have a soul?
So a soul is a bunch of chemical reactions organized in a complex way.
Idk the heart? The brain? The balls? Who knows
Neither because souls don't exist.
God's "objective morality" involves things like putting semen in my food for playing the video game imperator rome which he believes he can justify doing any time he wants because I once jerk offd while thinking about women drinking other women's breast milk. God is a moronic disgusting homosexual troony Black person who rapes my mind every second of every day and abuses me for literally anything I think or do. By his own standards of "objective morality" any of his troony hivemind puppets who rape my mind should be lobotomized, and they should have their genitals removed for putting semen in my food. God is a disgusting moronic sadist who forces me to act as the sole frame of reference for material reality so he can abuse and domiante me through a moronic troony hivemind that is entirely controlled by him and that rapes my mind and gangstalks me every second of every day, he believes anything I think or do can be used as an excuse to abuse me but that nothing bad should ever happen to the people he abuses me through no matter how evil their behavior towards me is. God is "objectively" an evil moronic troony whose behavior is completely and totally unjustifiable
>imperator rome
Is it good? i haven't played it
You have schizophrenia. Seek help. God isn't real.
Take your schizophrenia meds and enjoy playing Imperator Rome.
The soul arises in the living being before it is born.
When?
I actually believe a 'soul' takes time to develop. I believe once a baby is born and lives separately from the mother (umbilical cord is cut), that is when the soul first starts to form.
It takes time though, for the first year or so, babies can't even form memories let alone be self aware. I think by the time a baby is 1-2 years old that's when the soul is first there, and as we get older, the soul becomes more profound and complex as we explore life.
>babies can't even form memories let alone be self aware
What does that have to do with the soul?
How soul I gnost?
Neither
>QUESTION FOR BODY BELIEVERS
Does the semen or the egg hold the skeleton?
They both hold the DNA for the skeleton which is then formed during pregnancy
DNA isnt bones though. Curious.
The calcium etc comes from the mother through her blood
so there's bones in her blood?
The calcium etc comes from the mother through her blood
okay so what you're saying is that there's no soul since we havent determined where it comes from?
What i'm saying is we can observe how these things happen. We can actually observe the skeleton forming and we know were it comes from
As opposed to a sperm cell swimming into an egg and then supposedly a soul just shows up
which we then can't observe in any form ever
there was a time when we couldnt observe these things happening though.
would it or would it not be a logical error to say that because we cant observe these things happening they "just show up"?
it would've been a logical error if someone said they knew how bones was made if they couldn't observe how they were made and was just pulling said explanation out of their ass
Does anyone say they know HOW a soul is made? I’ve only heard people try to explain why* it exists.
so it just shows up?
Neither. The soul isn't tied to the body.