Raised luciferianism ANA

Luciferianism is a "secret religion" (read: cult that doesn't seek publicity but does everything to avoid it) generally speaking however there are people openly identifying as luciferian . AFAIK none of them admit to being raised luciferian (and if they were , it's totally understandable why ).

Pic sort of related , baphomet isn't too relevant in luciferianism

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  1. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    How is baphomet not too relevant to luciferianism ( how is it relevant to the extent that it is ? )

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Baphomet is generally regarded as a symbol of lucifer and / or Satan by luciferians.

      Baphomet is associated with dualities and divine androgyny.

      Oddly enough there is a connection between Muhammed and baphomet.
      There is actually a quasi-islamic strain of luciferianism but it would be totally blasphemous by Islamic standards.

      Muhammed is seen as an embodiment of lucifer and / or Satan / shaitan in this strain

  2. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    How is it different to satanism ?

    Are there any sources to learn about luciferianism from ?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Intellectually speaking you could consider it a form of satanism , pragmatically speaking there's two different groups / movements , the one luciferianism a d the other satanism

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        But what actually is the difference / distinction ?

  3. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Source: your ass

    The only "luciferians" are edgy larpers.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's how I'd describe the cultists I grew up with , yes .

      They were still wealthy and powerful and I'd challenge you to take me self professed luciferians who don't come from an upper middle class background .

      There are some but they're not outside or central America that I'm aware of

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        *Challenge you to show me

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        *Not outside South or central America

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        What were the people you grew up with like? In America most satanists are fat and genderspecial.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          They consider themselves distinct from and better then satanists . To them satanists are like a lower class .

          What were they like ?
          Like rich people WASPy people I guess , but culty . I mean for all of the emphasis on knowledge and enlightenment and individuality and free thinking we were raised to be fanatical and devoted to lucifer .

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            So what even is lucifer according to the cult ?

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's a great question .

            I can tell you that adult luciferians scoff at the notion of belief in literal deities , they consider themselves too smart and elite for that .

            They'll tell you they're atheists or agnostic but I can tell you they're nothing like the atheists most people are familiar with .

            They absolutely believe in deities but they have their own exclusive concept of what they are

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            Are israelites involved ?

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can take any religion whether Judaism , Islam or Christianity and turn it upside down completely on its head and that would basically be Luciferianism .

            It's mainly based on an inversion of Christianity but as I mentioned earlier there's an Islamic strain . As far as judaism theres also an inversion dating to the 16 or 1700s where everything is done diametrically opposite to the laws , rules and regulations of judaism , on the authority of some kind of false Messiah or prophet , this is not my area of knowledge as I was raised nominally (in the truest sense , only in terms of the face presented to the outside world ) christian .

            I can tell you though that most affiliated with this movement aren't even israeli . I could name some household names and none if then are israelites, some are though and they recently become household names . Theres a close ties with something called palo mumbe oddly enough a Carribbean religion similar to voodoo

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            What was it like as a kid? Did you know it was strange? Did you go to any interesting rituals?

            >I could name some household names
            You should do it then, you're anonymous.

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            You guys should be able to summise without me saying anything more I gave you enough clues so far .

            I can point out the main clues for you if you want .

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I can point out the main clues for you if you want
            At the very least do that, but it would be cooler if you just spilled the beans.

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            Interesting rituals well as I mentioned , gnostic mass was a major ritual and that involves naked ladies .

            I saw animals being sacrificed.

            That might sound interesting to you but if your raised in it it's routine and boring to a kid just like with any other religion . That might sound cold in regard to animal sacrifices but I suppose if you're raised on a farm where you see animals get unalived it's the same deal .

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            Farm animals or cats and dogs?

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dogs and farm animals

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            Alright, name them so I can sacrifice them then. No need to beat around the bush.

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            I dont know what you're expecting to gain but you won't gain anything from just killing some poor animals.

            Personally I dont think anyone gains anything from sacrificing animals in any context .... I consider myself agnostic , open to the idea of a benevolent higher power, as a human being I'll probably pray if I see / feel the need .

            But lucifer and the various deities of luciferianism I want nothing to do with .

            Luciferians as I mentioned see themselves as atheists who consider lucifer and their deities to be psychological and esoteric / occult forces .... And particularly lucifer and Satan as a sort of symbol of the absence of God and a symbol of the forces of nature and in the case of lucifer a symbol of knowledge , intelligence and the mind

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            Are they fans of Michael Aquino and his whole Temple of Set thing?

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            No . They hate military and Aquino / TOS are classed as satanists and therefore a lower class .

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            What are the various deities of luciferianism ?

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            I dont know what you're expecting to gain but you won't gain anything from just killing some poor animals.

            Personally I dont think anyone gains anything from sacrificing animals in any context .... I consider myself agnostic , open to the idea of a benevolent higher power, as a human being I'll probably pray if I see / feel the need .

            But lucifer and the various deities of luciferianism I want nothing to do with .

            Luciferians as I mentioned see themselves as atheists who consider lucifer and their deities to be psychological and esoteric / occult forces .... And particularly lucifer and Satan as a sort of symbol of the absence of God and a symbol of the forces of nature and in the case of lucifer a symbol of knowledge , intelligence and the mind

            But even in the context of luciferianism you'll gain nothing merely by killing some animal as you would also need the correct rites .

            They also do disgusting shit with the sacrifices which I doubt youd be willing to do

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            What kind of naked ladies, hot virgin teens or crusty hags? What did they do?

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        So if they are wealthy and powerful in what sense are they LARPers ?

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          In the sense that they are very rich people out of touch with reality, with their own wacky religious beliefs and / or affiliations, who would never consider taking on the beliefs or affiliations of the plebs because they consider themselves too good for that .

          Likewise they'd never share their beliefs or religions with plebs for the same reasons. That's not to say there aren't major , very much publicised religions , cults and movements that are full of luciferians .

          Scientologists , Mormons and yes , freemasons . Last but not least Catholics but it's not as if there aren't Protestant churches and denominations with luciferians in their high ranks

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why do luciferians join other religions? And what were the rites like?

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            Mainly for power , as far as I can summise .

            In terms of Catholicism there's an actual historical and cultural story there but , I'll say that with the disclaimer that I'm going by what luciferians say .

            In terms of nominal religious affiliation they are by and large associated with Catholicism and the Catholic church . However they are total heretics according to actual Catholic doctrine and I've got no agenda here . I'm not Christian at all so I'm not here to tell you Catholics are le bad and the real Christians and their churches are Protestant .

            As far as Christianity the closest affinity they have aside from inversion / turming it on it's head / left hand path is gnosticism.

            But that's still total BS as far as I'm concerned . They claim they're luciferian gnostics but based in what I know they dint qualify . They claim that for prestige and historical narrative

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well in lieu of my last post . A major rite is the gnostic mass , which AFAIK , is officially traced to Aleister Crowley .

            But I never once heard the word thelema .

            There's definitely important , major similarities between thelema and luciferianism .

            But I only even became aware of thelema after I broke away .

            But go figure Aleister Crowley is worshipped as basically a god in human form by many of these mfers just this wasn't something we were taught as kids

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            OTO?

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            Officially , yes .

            However as I mentioned , I never once heard the word thelema . OTO is supposed to be like the church of thelema , correct me if I'm wrong. I dont know much about thelema ironically .

            Based on my research online a lot of OTO branches are just based on / associated with paganism / polytheism and witchcraft / magic in general . That accords with my experiences fairly well .

            When I said luciferianism and satanism has stronger associations with offshoots of freemasonry then freemasonry itself OTO is definitely what I had in mind. I mean I know that there are OTO lodges that are just straight up satanists in the most crass and Hollywood sense

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            UwU?

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            So Freemasonry is luciferian ?

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't see any reason to think so . All I can tell you is that luciferians (and satanists) are involved in the ranks. But luciferianism / satanism and freemasonry / freemasonic doctrine are not one in the same . There's some overlap with luciferianism and freemasonry but it's overlap and it's pretty limited , based on what I know . The correlation is stronger with offshoots of freemasonry

  4. 12 months ago
    Anonymous
  5. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do you join the cult?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      The only way I'm aware of is being born into it or initiated by people who are mostly born into it

      It's very rare that born members will ever even tell any outsider about the existence of the cult .

      Otherwise , you can come to the philosophy / religion of luciferianism on your own . It is technically only secret as an organised religion .

      I know there is literature published by authors who admit no affiliation with the cult but which is very close to the official cult doctrine

  6. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Based on my research online a lot of OTO branches are just based on / associated with paganism / polytheism and witchcraft / magic in general . That accords with my experiences fairly well

    What research ? You sound like a christLARPER who knows nothing about the OTO and is trying to spread satanic panic BS

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly , I looked at some youtube videos , they were talking about paganism and magic , that's more or less the extent of it , they never mentioned thelema or Crowley , both of which accord with my experiences

      What was it like as a kid? Did you know it was strange? Did you go to any interesting rituals?

      >I could name some household names
      You should do it then, you're anonymous.

      Did I know it was strange not really, I didn't really have much to compare it to .

      I watched Harry Potter and related to it , obviously we didn't cast spells and encounter magical creatures, and there's no Lucifer in Harry Potter . But we went to an old private school and wore black robes . I wasn't a boarder but we had boarders. We were told we were apart and special and seperate from most people and it was related to bloodlines . So a bit similar to the muggle witch / wizard dichotomy .

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just name some names man, come on. Do you have some loyalty to them? Are you afraid? What's the deal? They don't sound like violent, human sacrificing types from what you've said, I doubt they'll murder you.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        What y haplogroup?

  7. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I dont know what you're expecting to gain but you won't gain anything from just killing some poor animals.
    You misunderstand me, I merely want to sacrifice the dog killers. I don't want to harm any animals.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      I dont mind you captioning that I'll give be you another clue or two in fact :

      Devils tail
      Trident

      Anything you want to know about the alleged temple on the island is in a published book by the way .

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean , in terms of its symbolism .

        It's in an openly Luciferian book / grimoire

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >surname with an E
        It's not just Epstein is it? Figured that would be too obvious, but if you're talking about the temple on the island it seems like it fits.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          Of course not anon of course not .

          On a totally unrelated note, the alleged temple you are referring to , familiar to you no doubt via the photos of it's exterior

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            Had an artificial facade constructed of painted MDF

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            Interior of the actual building was a piano room and a library.

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            Had an artificial facade constructed of painted MDF

            He considered himself an operator but he was not operator material.

            The proper respects were not paid in his ritual space

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wtf even is "an operator" ?

      • 12 months ago
        sage

        You guys should be able to summise without me saying anything more I gave you enough clues so far .

        I can point out the main clues for you if you want .

        >cryptic bullshit for no reason instead of simply naming names
        But of course, lmao. Go to /misc/ or /x/ with your LARP.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          its jeffrey epstein look at the tail of his plane it has is initilials in the form of a devils tail and a trident

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