>read literally any book that is 50 years or older, a lot of the time critically acclaimed and best-selling
>12 year old girls having sex with older men and getting married to them is seen as "oh that's so odd and wacky doesn't <character> have strange tastes" at worst
Huh?
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>"Hey, so get this, I escaped prison in South America and hooked up with an 15 year old tribal girl and her 11 year old sister, I banged them both every night for weeks"
>Here's your best-seller, bro.
>hooked up with an 15 year old tribal girl and her 11 year old sister, I banged them both every night for weeks"
Welp, I guess this is going on the reading list....
He ends up getting them both pregnant because the younger one got jealous that her older sister got pregnant.
even funnier, he impregnated the young one first and then the old one got jealous and "almost raped" him. there's also an entire subplot about how the entire tribe is chill with him leaving and help him out preparing for his journey, but his child wives are extremely triggered and go on a hunger strike and ask the village sorcerer for permission to kill his horse by feeding it glass and everyone repeatedly warns him that they'll probably try to kill him with a shotgun if he leaves
Thanks for clearing that up, been a few years since I read it.
The natural human reproductive age is as soon as puberty starts, and for almost all of human history in almost all cultures that was considered the legal age too. The world you live in right now is a fabricated one with utterly artificial rules.
LIVE FREE OR NOT AT ALL
Nature doesnt lie
this is how men truly are without being supressed by the israeli morals laws
Just a sci-fi thing
If she's old enough to ride on highways, she should be able to handle a meat saber
There isn't a single sci-fi book with good romance. I finished Dune Messiah yesterday and the 'romance' between Hayt and Alia was pathetic.
because most sci-fi readers and writers are social rejects
I was just about to mention sweaty teenage Alia dancing nude having a mid-training orgasm while thinking of of big Duncan wiener.
i cannot wait for dune messiah to get a movie!!!
Who will they cast as Alia?
Dune is just autistic fap fiction. Herbert tries to hide it behind a veneer of political "intrigue" at first, but that soon falls apart
I liked the part where Dune Idaho outsexes the sexy sex witches at their own sexy mind control sex games
Not my proudest fap but I'll own up to it.
Dune is like an onion: it has layers. There's the outer layer of political intrigue, then a layer of technophobia and ludditism, then the middle layer of bad erotic fiction and barely disguised fetishes (see the entirety of book 4), and the bottom layer of environmentalist philosophy, and the ultra secret even lower layer of arabiphilia.
That's why it's a popular classic: there's something for everybody.
>Dune is like an onion
this
>then the middle layer of bad erotic fiction and barely disguised fetishes (see the entirety of book 4),
kek
You laugh because it's true. Still my favorite book though. Highest quality fetish bait, highest quality political philosophy.
>Don't be such a bigot Duncan, lesbians are hot, only male homosexuality is gross
The secret Journals of Leto II
Arabiphilia is not a word. What were you meaning to say?
arabophilia, he probably fat-fingered it
homie the araboo stuff is the most obvious layer
I thought ringworld had good romance if we look only in terms of the female character. Maybe I just like fate a bit too much though.
How about the sequels which introduce the idea that the standard meeting ritual for the different species on Ringworld is to have a big orgy.
Then we have moved beyond the term "single sci-fi book"
Thorns by Robert Silverberg has a really beautiful romance about two suicidal freaks. By far my favorite book of his.
That's genre fiction mate. Trash-lit.
I don't like Heinlein even a little bit but he was still objectively a better writer than any of the commonly shilled Russian literati.
I was going to elaborate about how bad Heinlein's stilted attempts at romance or even bare eros were in Starship Troopers. It shows how bad the standards of genre fiction are when writers like Heinlein and Gibson are held up to be the genre's good authors.
Without going into detail, I will explain that you have been effectively gatekept.
Bruh. At least read Time Enough for Love. The story of Lazarus and Dora is heavy enough that it's been almost twenty years since I read it and I have tears in my eyes just typing this out.
>better then Tolstoy
Okay buddy
Literally every novel published today is genre fiction.
If there isn't a pre-defined market, it doesn't get published.
Insane dictator-psychiatrist clones herself and trains her clone to seduce the clone of her unrequited love, after raping him herself.
> Farnham's Freehold
> Stranger in a Strange Land
Never heard of the first one but the second one I have read and I’m in the process of reading it again with an audiobook to guide me. I would certainly like to see an adaption of it but I’m not sure who should be in it, who should direct it, and how it should be done.
Bro, read Farnham's Freehold.
All about a white family, the daughter's college coed friend, and the family's black servant being blasted into the far flung future via nuclear blast. Far enough into the future that white people have degenerated and blacks have spread out from Africa. Like a lot of Heinlein's books, it is filled with sex and racism.
>Farnham's Freehold
>The group finds that it has not been transported to another world, but instead is in the distant future of their own world. A decadent but technologically advanced black culture keeps either uneducated or castrated white people as slaves. Sexual slavery and cannibalism are widespread and generally accepted. Adolescent girls are sexually exploited as "bedwarmers" by their owners. Other children are bred on ranches for consumption and slaughtered during puberty (when their flesh is considered particularly tasty) or sometimes earlier.
Did I Stutter?
Fine, I'll read it.
>reading sci-fi for romance
"Reader, I married him ... it ... whatever it was."
Stranger in a Strange Land was better. Do you grok, homosexual?
I'm gonna read that next. Any martian funny?
C*
There is a reference to Martian Nymphs (which are described as the young Martian female that look like 6 feet tall tribbles. Adult martians are like train passenger car sized isopods.)
It really wasn't. Harsh Mistress was peak Heinlein.
You watch your mouth, F*sterite.
Heinlein was a highly vocal pedophile so maybe not the best example.
Source outside of his writing implying it sometimes?
frick knowing better and his shit understanding of heinlein
Isn't this a Judy Collins song?
Written by Jimmy Webb; recorded by Judy Collins, among others.
The moon is a metaphor for an unfaithful partner.
There's no link between consensual minor-adult sex and psychological harm. Child sexual abuse theory is a pseudoscience which is controverted by all good science. Studies which purport to show a causal link between minor-adult sex and psychological harm use clinical samples and don't control for confounding factors, such as family environment and whether or not simple consent was present. The belief that minor-adult sex always results in mental trauma comes from combining all outcomes of minor-adult sex and averaging them, refusing to examine separately outcomes where minor-adult sex was not forcible or coerced, for ideological reasons.
Most psychologists know that minor-adult sex does not really cause minors psychological harm:
James Cantor PhD:
>The research is much more consistent with the conclusion that harm is caused instead by coercion, manipulation, secrecy, and by courting kids who already have problems, not the sexual interactions per se.
Michael Bailey PhD:
>Indeed, the best scientific evidence suggests that the most typical experiences considered childhood sexual abuse may not be as harmful as most people think. Specifically, sexual activity that children engage in voluntarily (albeit illegally) with adults is nearly uncorrelated with undesirable outcomes
People are caused psychological harm by violence and coercion, not by having an enjoyable sexual experience with an adult partner.
Studies here:
Arreola et al, 2008; Arreola et al, 2009; Bauserman & Rind, 1997; Carballo-Dieguez et al, 2011; Condy et al, 1987; Dolezal et al, 2014; Kilpatrick, 1987; Lahtinen et al, 2018; Leahy, 1996; Mulya, 2018; Rind, 2001; Rind, 2016; Rind & Tromovitch, 1997; Rind & Welter, 2013; Rind & Welter, 2016; Rind et al, 1998; Sandfort, 1984; Sandfort, 1987; Tindall, 1978; Ulrich et al, 2005-2006; Wet et al, 2018.
More studies on NewgonWiki
Ethnographic atlas of child sexual behaviours:
http://www.sexarchive.info/GESUND/ARCHIV/GUS/ETHNOINDEX.HTM
So how old does a child have to be to consent? How old does a child have to be to understand the consequences of sex?
Very good that anime keeps up that tradition.
>reads on specific book by a pedophile apologist which he wrote specifically to present pedophile apologia
>this means all books written in that time were full of pedophile apologia
The anglophonic sci-fi community had a pedophile problem during it's "golden age." It's part of the reason talents like PKD stayed away from them.
I'm trans btw not sure if that matters.
Because pedophilia has only been looked down upon in recent years
>“What nonsense! All our kids have been naked in front of each other from time to time; we brought them up that way.”
>“But, dear, he really did have a point. A boy’s differences hang right out where they can be seen; a girl’s girlishness is mostly inside and doesn’t show unless she lies down and makes it show. That is what Nancy did for him. Lay down, pulled up her robe—she was just out of her bath-spread her thighs wide, pulled her lips apart and showed him the baby hole. Probably winked at him with it. Probably enjoyed it herself. I would have—but none of my brothers asked me to.”
Is that from "To Sail Across The Sunset"?
bucket (list) filled
>Best-seller, 5/5 stars on every website ever, critically acclaimed by everyone
My first boner was to this cover.
Every sexy female redhead in his books is likely based on Heinlein's IRL wife. That guy really loved his wife.
>trip 2s at the front
>two pairs of dub 0s
>lucky 7 near the end
BASEDO
That would be his third wife, Virginia. And yes, I could absolutely see Heinlein creating jailbait clones of his wife.
Peak momcest book. Freud would be proud.
Do you think his wife also fricked her sons like Maureen Johnson did?
Pedos are flooding the site again. Is there a /b/ janny harassing their 24/7 threads?
that’s because real life was like that until about 50-100 years ago. you unironically live in a gynocracy, anon. we all do.
I know there are billions of books about adult men or women fricking kids, but are there any where two kids bang?
IT
Aside from that cocaine addict and degenerate Stephan King (who got rightfully BTFO’d by Stanley Kubrick), any others?
Literally every preceding generation was a lot less hung-up about sex than zoomers.
I honestly think zoomers will be the last iteration of humanity. They're too neurotic to reproduce.
>forgets about Gen Alpha
it's not that.
zoomers are the most oversexualized and undersexed generation. they're not hung up about sex, they just don't have it. they're too busy jerking off and doing ERP with some homosexual in a discord call.
The reasons they're not having sex include body-image problems, social anxiety, narcissism and sqeamishness. They're hung-up to the point of paralysis.
I'm in my late thirties and going back to school for a career change. I'm glad that I'm married because frick dating, but it's insane how easy it would be to get inside of these zoomer girls. I've had girls call me Daddy in class.
I feel like my friend looks a bit like Heinlein when he was younger.
What's more sus is any dystopian sci-fi/cyberpunk/post-apocalypse setting that tries to pretend as if mass rape wouldn't be totally rampant and normal somehow and what are considered "civilized consent laws" would still somehow be relevant. Which is why a woman has never written a believable setting in any of those genres.
Everything would be A Boy and His Dog mode and all women would be chased around by morally grey (at best) "good guys".
>Which is why a woman has never written a believable setting in any of those genres.
Clearly you've never read women's sci-fi erotica. Especially Omegaverse shit. There's endless quantities of settings where there's just roving packs of men going around raping women without stopping and they somehow make a plot out of that. (Usually the FemMC somehow manages to make the Alpha Rapelord become obsessed with only her and forget about other women, its never explained how beyond "she's just special")
I remember at least one book where the FemMC was raped like 100 times in a row by a bunch of space marine-types before being acquired by the male MC. Who then proceeded to do things like cum all over her food.
What, are you gonna suggest we read The Fifth Sacred Thing after we finish reading your furry smut?
>I remember at least one book where the FemMC was raped like 100 times in a row by a bunch of space marine-types before being acquired by the male MC. Who then proceeded to do things like cum all over her food.
Sounds like a book recommendation but you've neglected to name the book.
Is there a problem here?