Don't mind that [...] dicknipples. Come to linux, man, it is pretty fun.
One thing I hate about Windows nowadays is that it doesn't shut the frick up. There is always something to bother the user: a notification about an useless thing, news about uninteresting things, and the list goes on.
Thanks. I am looking into virtual box right now to test it. Baby steps.
>I am looking into virtual box right now to test it.
Please don't. It runs like ass in Virtualbox. Get a flash drive, make a live usb, boot that up instead, you don't have to install it to use it. For such a newcomer I'd say go for Linux Mint instead.
dicknipples. Come to linux, man, it is pretty fun.
One thing I hate about Windows nowadays is that it doesn't shut the frick up. There is always something to bother the user: a notification about an useless thing, news about uninteresting things, and the list goes on.
I so wish KDE got good with design, defaults and stability. Breeze has to go, it is very bad stick figure minimalism (what more to expect from unemployed gay artist who treated it as a personal portfolio project) Gnome is pure horror. Alas, not happening. KDE has to go and new desktop made.
Sorry but KDE is glitchy as shit
I switched to cinnamon on arch because every time my screen slept and woke up it would be stuck at 30% brightness (but said 100%) until I manually adjusted it slightly
Very annoying
>Linux already won and windows users did not even realize.
More like Linux lost. >For every computer with windows, there are 10 cellphones with linux.
The Linux kernel on your phone is extremely locked down (and usually some random vendor fork with more cancer), the userspace it the shitty Android ecosystem with lots of Java, not like the GNU or BSD environment you're used to.
Fuchsia might replace Linux on Android in the future. >Microsoft himself has more computers with Linux than with windows.
Except they still dominate the desktop, hard. Even on Linux, people are using Microsoft software now, like vscode.
[...]
To remove any need for running Linux on your real hardware.
>throwing back the linux desktop by literal decades >desktop environment that's like a bad copy of windows and crashes more >zoomer distro for dunning–krugers
Why do literal morons think these things are good?
>throwing back the linux desktop by literal decades
That's what Xorg did. >desktop environment that's like a bad copy of windows and crashes more
Krashing is dead meme. KDE is stable now. >zoomer distro for dunning–krugers
Arch Linux just works and thanks to AUR you can install almost any package on it.
>That's what Xorg did.
Xorg overcame the problems XFree86 had. If anything, it did most for the Linux desktop. >Krashing is dead meme. KDE is stable now.
This statement simply doesn't match with observable reality. Also, why would KDE suddenly become stable? >Arch Linux just works and thanks to AUR you can install almost any package on it.
This statement doesn't actually say anything. You could modify it to praise any other distro.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>You could modify it to praise any other distro
What other distro has AUR that isn't based on Arch?
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Arch is the only distro with external repos or packages
Don't waste my time, low IQ moron.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Do you really think shit like external repos and PPAs are the same as AUR?
2 months ago
Anonymous
>This statement simply doesn't match with observable reality. Also, why would KDE suddenly become stable?
what do you mean by "crashing"
I literally have not had it crash once, the only time I had problems is when I started using linux in general and didn't know what the frick I was doing so I sudo'd my way into making the whole system unstable. In other words, skill issue.
I've noticed a rise of dumb Arch shills. They come along with Wayland shills.
Wayland isn't bad at all, it just needs 20 more years to get ready for the desktop. Anyone actually interested in a good Linux desktop should work to improve Xorg, which is less effort.
>which is less effort
There's definitely been a lot of legacy code bases that I've worked with that would have been much easier to rewrite than try to "fix" or "improve". It's weird, there seems to be so many people that claim to understand X at a deep technical level but no one actually doing much with it.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>There's definitely been a lot of legacy code bases that I've worked with that would have been much easier to rewrite than try to "fix" or "improve".
Everyone thinks that at first, and then things like Gayland happen. Sometimes, rewrites are successful and absolutely necessary, but usually they cause extra problems.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>everyone thinks that at first and then things like gayland happen
My experience using Wayland with a specific compositor has been better than my experience using X. Take it for what you will, but that's just how the cookie crumbled. For some reason tearfree just wouldn't work for me, I always had horrible tearing in any kind of application with smooth scrolling or even in emacs just moving down some lines. There are some bad parts of X, having a compositor on the side (like picom, which performs horribly compared to any wayland compositor) is one of them. A proper, performant compositor provided as a standard implementation using a vulkan back-end would change that completely. Better yet, handle it like compositors do in wayland so you can remove those extra GPU->GPU copies. I'd also love something similar to pipewire for capturing windows in a program like OBS. It's so smooth and fast, and if I move something to a different desktop/workspace it doesn't stop rendering. Honestly a lot of things in wayland compositors just _feel_ faster, smoother, maybe this isn't because of wayland but because of how the rewritten compositors/wms handle things.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I hear this a lot and its honestly nonsense
Old code is valuable. Messy code is valuable. You obviously need to improve it and keep it maintainable, but "it looks bad" often means it has a ton of hidden value. WHEN YOU THROW AWAY OLD CODE, YOU THROW AWAY DECADES OF BUGFIXES AND PERFORMANCE TRICKS
this is a tale as old as time. rewrite, rewrite, rewrite, every time with a different model. and every time it becomes even less successful than the humble mature code
2 months ago
Anonymous
>YOU THROW AWAY DECADES OF BUGFIXES AND PERFORMANCE TRICKS
Yeah no. Of course writing new code is going to lead to new bugs, that's just the nature of programming when you are only human, it's impossible to account for everything. The old code had bug fixes for bugs the old code produced, or didn't account for at the outset either. Performance tricks though, often if they were around they existed under the context of very different hardware. They may not be relevant anymore, or even slow down the operation of the program. There is is also a matter of design philosophy and architecture. A good programmer today, who values performance, is generally going to do a better job than a good programmer of the past. We simply have more knowledge to work off of now (provided you have actually worked on things of technical value). We have better APIs and ABIs, better hardware and better tools.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>We simply have more knowledge to work off of now (provided you have actually worked on things of technical value). >We have better APIs and ABIs, better hardware and better tools.
Too bad Wayland didn't use our better knowledge, APIs, or ABIs.
2 months ago
Anonymous
My compositor uses a vulkan renderer. What does your use?
It's trash and an embarrassment to the community. Bloated garbo. At least Rocky has wienerpit, if you're gonna bloat up my distro at least include useful tools with it.
> arch
The true Just Works™ distribution.
Not the past month okay gay
wdym mine didn't break
>gayland
>krashde
>wayland
You mean ruined.
Is the Cog K symbol Kubuntu?
>t. curious about Linux after Microsoft's bullshit recently
You better stick with Windows, sorry brainlet.
It's the KDE logo. Kubuntu is Ubuntu with the KDE desktop that's were the K comes from.
Thanks. I am looking into virtual box right now to test it. Baby steps.
>I am looking into virtual box right now to test it.
Please don't. It runs like ass in Virtualbox. Get a flash drive, make a live usb, boot that up instead, you don't have to install it to use it. For such a newcomer I'd say go for Linux Mint instead.
Don't mind that
dicknipples. Come to linux, man, it is pretty fun.
One thing I hate about Windows nowadays is that it doesn't shut the frick up. There is always something to bother the user: a notification about an useless thing, news about uninteresting things, and the list goes on.
>>t. curious about Linux after Microsoft's bullshit recently
Which bullshit they did this time?
sorry but what the frick does "t." mean? i am a newbie so idk shit about your IQfys slang
t. stands for Tyrone. It means that the author of the post is black.
>arch + xorg + i3
let me guess, you need "more"?
Nothing can replace i3wm. Sway's a mess and I doubt it'll get any better.
Can't deny i3 its pretty fricking great, but sometimes I wish i'd look better. Im thinking of using a different wm just get a neat looking status bar
nixos + wayland + river is the new
arch + xorg + dwm
>river
I thought everyone was using hyprland
>not GNU/Green Pepper
ngmi
>gayland saving anything
It's certainly saving Windows and Mac.
>Wayland is the future
>The 'eck uses X11
Those are the things it needs saving from.
I so wish KDE got good with design, defaults and stability. Breeze has to go, it is very bad stick figure minimalism (what more to expect from unemployed gay artist who treated it as a personal portfolio project) Gnome is pure horror. Alas, not happening. KDE has to go and new desktop made.
Breeze is absolutely garbage
now we wait.
RAAAAAT
GAAANG
Guaranteed OP has fried his brain with testosterone blockers
Does strogen cores work on Linux? I have AMD so I don't know
I just thought about this question
This but without gayland.
TOTAL UBUNTU DEATH
TOTAL GNOME DEATH
TOTAL WAYLAND DEATH
We need more edgy right-wing linux memes instead of troony shit.
Luv arch
Luv X11
'ate gayland
Simple as
Sorry but KDE is glitchy as shit
I switched to cinnamon on arch because every time my screen slept and woke up it would be stuck at 30% brightness (but said 100%) until I manually adjusted it slightly
Very annoying
>Linux already won and windows users did not even realize.
More like Linux lost.
>For every computer with windows, there are 10 cellphones with linux.
The Linux kernel on your phone is extremely locked down (and usually some random vendor fork with more cancer), the userspace it the shitty Android ecosystem with lots of Java, not like the GNU or BSD environment you're used to.
Fuchsia might replace Linux on Android in the future.
>Microsoft himself has more computers with Linux than with windows.
Except they still dominate the desktop, hard. Even on Linux, people are using Microsoft software now, like vscode.
To remove any need for running Linux on your real hardware.
>gayland
>krashDE
>save loonix
Touch some grass Black person.
Based Arch + KDE + Wayland is the future of the Linux desktop.
>throwing back the linux desktop by literal decades
>desktop environment that's like a bad copy of windows and crashes more
>zoomer distro for dunning–krugers
Why do literal morons think these things are good?
>throwing back the linux desktop by literal decades
That's what Xorg did.
>desktop environment that's like a bad copy of windows and crashes more
Krashing is dead meme. KDE is stable now.
>zoomer distro for dunning–krugers
Arch Linux just works and thanks to AUR you can install almost any package on it.
>That's what Xorg did.
Xorg overcame the problems XFree86 had. If anything, it did most for the Linux desktop.
>Krashing is dead meme. KDE is stable now.
This statement simply doesn't match with observable reality. Also, why would KDE suddenly become stable?
>Arch Linux just works and thanks to AUR you can install almost any package on it.
This statement doesn't actually say anything. You could modify it to praise any other distro.
>You could modify it to praise any other distro
What other distro has AUR that isn't based on Arch?
>Arch is the only distro with external repos or packages
Don't waste my time, low IQ moron.
Do you really think shit like external repos and PPAs are the same as AUR?
>This statement simply doesn't match with observable reality. Also, why would KDE suddenly become stable?
what do you mean by "crashing"
I literally have not had it crash once, the only time I had problems is when I started using linux in general and didn't know what the frick I was doing so I sudo'd my way into making the whole system unstable. In other words, skill issue.
can someone please make a addon that uses image recognition to auto hide any thread with those logos please?
For me plasma 5.27 + X11 was better than plasma 6 + wayland, but it'll eventually get there at some point with enough updates.
>Arch+Wayland+KDE
How did this become the go-to meme for Linux flamewar instigator?
Tbhonk nobody with triple-digit IQ gets triggered Arch. It's the obnoxious Wayland shilling.
Sadly it seems KDE bent the knee.
I've noticed a rise of dumb Arch shills. They come along with Wayland shills.
Wayland isn't bad at all, it just needs 20 more years to get ready for the desktop. Anyone actually interested in a good Linux desktop should work to improve Xorg, which is less effort.
>which is less effort
There's definitely been a lot of legacy code bases that I've worked with that would have been much easier to rewrite than try to "fix" or "improve". It's weird, there seems to be so many people that claim to understand X at a deep technical level but no one actually doing much with it.
>There's definitely been a lot of legacy code bases that I've worked with that would have been much easier to rewrite than try to "fix" or "improve".
Everyone thinks that at first, and then things like Gayland happen. Sometimes, rewrites are successful and absolutely necessary, but usually they cause extra problems.
>everyone thinks that at first and then things like gayland happen
My experience using Wayland with a specific compositor has been better than my experience using X. Take it for what you will, but that's just how the cookie crumbled. For some reason tearfree just wouldn't work for me, I always had horrible tearing in any kind of application with smooth scrolling or even in emacs just moving down some lines. There are some bad parts of X, having a compositor on the side (like picom, which performs horribly compared to any wayland compositor) is one of them. A proper, performant compositor provided as a standard implementation using a vulkan back-end would change that completely. Better yet, handle it like compositors do in wayland so you can remove those extra GPU->GPU copies. I'd also love something similar to pipewire for capturing windows in a program like OBS. It's so smooth and fast, and if I move something to a different desktop/workspace it doesn't stop rendering. Honestly a lot of things in wayland compositors just _feel_ faster, smoother, maybe this isn't because of wayland but because of how the rewritten compositors/wms handle things.
I hear this a lot and its honestly nonsense
Old code is valuable. Messy code is valuable. You obviously need to improve it and keep it maintainable, but "it looks bad" often means it has a ton of hidden value. WHEN YOU THROW AWAY OLD CODE, YOU THROW AWAY DECADES OF BUGFIXES AND PERFORMANCE TRICKS
this is a tale as old as time. rewrite, rewrite, rewrite, every time with a different model. and every time it becomes even less successful than the humble mature code
>YOU THROW AWAY DECADES OF BUGFIXES AND PERFORMANCE TRICKS
Yeah no. Of course writing new code is going to lead to new bugs, that's just the nature of programming when you are only human, it's impossible to account for everything. The old code had bug fixes for bugs the old code produced, or didn't account for at the outset either. Performance tricks though, often if they were around they existed under the context of very different hardware. They may not be relevant anymore, or even slow down the operation of the program. There is is also a matter of design philosophy and architecture. A good programmer today, who values performance, is generally going to do a better job than a good programmer of the past. We simply have more knowledge to work off of now (provided you have actually worked on things of technical value). We have better APIs and ABIs, better hardware and better tools.
>We simply have more knowledge to work off of now (provided you have actually worked on things of technical value).
>We have better APIs and ABIs, better hardware and better tools.
Too bad Wayland didn't use our better knowledge, APIs, or ABIs.
My compositor uses a vulkan renderer. What does your use?
looks like the average troony linux installation
xfce
Ummm X11 bros? Our response?
"my desktop works"
>Three things for technically illiterate idiots that enjoy being slow, bloated and inefficient.
How can I make Arch have a nice windows 7 esque DE without using KDE?
I'm surprised at how much wayland justwerks(tm), thought it would be shit actually.
>being the meme
I've been the meme for 15 years, what's another 5?
It just works, and it feels great
>tfw running arch
>tfw running repo-elephant in my shell
>Using a rolling release distro
Just asking for problems.
you might as well use windows or mac if youre not going to use a rolling release distro
It's trash and an embarrassment to the community. Bloated garbo. At least Rocky has wienerpit, if you're gonna bloat up my distro at least include useful tools with it.