>science totally isnt magic- ACK

>science totally isn’t magic- ACK

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Science is quite literally descended from past moronic magic-think, and insane natural philosophers (the “wizards”), so I don’t exactly find issue with this angle.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Cult of Passion

      >descended
      >eternal truths become temporally dependend
      Hark!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is why I got the jab. I wanted to participate in the human sacrifice ritual birthing the basilisk.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you have done well. don't forget your boosters.
          https://odysee.com/@Realfake_Newsource:9/RFNS-003-006:f

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >April 9, 2020
            Jesus. I was still shitposting about chinese fake death counts at that point.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The word for pharmacy once meant sorcery.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        aren't you that dumb Black person who didn't know what shape a pyramid is on IQfy?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/tECxpA4.jpg

      >science totally isn’t magic- ACK

      "Magic" is a very anthroprocentric concept in itself

      If you think about something, you are inducing a potential in the ground of reality, what's refered to as "manifestation"

      The more you develop this potential, the higher the chance of a discharge (resembling that which you were originally thinking of) from the ether into psychophysicality in whatever shape or form. It literally is that shrimple

      Here's the rub though, i wouldn't recommend actively fricking around with nonphysical forces (especially not ouija boards, scrying mirrors and the like), they always demand to be "paid back" in some shape or form. For some people, this kind of stuff goes horribly wrong

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ouija boards are just pieces of wood and the ideomotor effect.
        the human subconscious has a surprising amount of control over you in every moment.
        Like when you set something down somewhere idly and forget where you put something a few moments later. the pseudo effect.
        Thinking about getting an itch somewhere can give you one.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If I convince myself hard enough that I have to go poop, then I have to go poop. Sometimes when I think of certain foods I feel like pooping too.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            le poop wizard

      • 3 weeks ago
        bodhi
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He also thinks there are demons involved or some schizo shit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >demons
        ayy

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fricking drugs man

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    — "In many ways, the mathematical quest to understand infinity parallels mystical attempts to understand God. Both religion and mathematics attempt to express relationships between humans, the universe, and infinity. Both have arcane symbols and rituals, and impenetrable language."

    • 3 weeks ago
      Cult of Passion

      The merger of interpretive and concrete.

      Thats why Theology has things like "wheel within a wheel", only in advanced mathematics can you express such complex numbers (the individual human).

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      who are you quoting ? Im just curious

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Magic = science + free will

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so free will = magic - science? seems legit

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    magic is about creating things/effects without causes, like moving an object without applying any force on it, it's not science

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >something can exist without having a cause
      Lol, look at this midwit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's why it's called magic, it shouldn't be possible yet it happens.
        isn't it what "magic" triggers when you're seeing a show?
        >holy shit that shouldn't be fricking possible, how?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What do scientists say when they confront something new and/or bewildering?

          — “Hmm. That’s weird. I wonder how that works…”.

          Sound familiar?

          Nothing defies possibility, only our understanding of it, you dolt.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            not sure what the frick you talking about, I was just pointing out magic is anything that is breaking physics as we know it. magic cannot ever be explained by science. if it can it's not magic, it just looks like magic, because it's a science trickery of sorts.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Okay, and I’m pointing out that you technically -cannot- break physics, not when physics works with itself.

            Magic is a vital gap. It is nuanced. It exists the same way cold, or darkness, or holes, exist. It is closer to an absence.

            If mystery, wonder, horror, etc, make magic, then ignorance is the greatest magic of all. What is the black box?

            At its simplest, you had the ancients looking to the stars in the night sky and considering them no less than gods.

            Ignorance, like religion, is indistinguishable from magic. Truth isn’t required. That defeats the point of faith.

            You don’t ask a magician for their secrets, do you? Is is the same with the gods and mysticism.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I’m pointing out that you technically -cannot- break physics
            no shit moron
            >Magic is a vital gap
            nonsense, you're redifining it to suit your bullshit fantasies
            >You don’t ask a magician for their secrets, do you?
            no because I'm not interested in bullshit. magic is not real you moron.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > magic is not real you moron.

            — “It exists the same way cold, or darkness, or holes, exist.”

            Glad you agree. Magic can’t be real, to be real. It is literally anything sufficiently wondrous, mysterious, etc.

            It can be anything at all. If math was treated as magic for thousands of years, why not anything else?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            By ‘vital gap’ he means “I don’t know what the frick is going on right now, it may as well be magic”, or “How did you DO that? Are you a wizard?”, or something else along those lines. A gap in understanding. A lack of exposure.

            This is why the elves in Tolkien’s middle-earth don’t actually believe in (elven) magic. Or why the black machines of Mordor are considered black magic They’re too exposed, or unexposed, respectively. No different from a magician on the stage.

            what you are saying is that magic is whatever you fancy whenever you fancy. my definition is a bit more objective.
            say if spontaneously a bar of gold appears on your desk, in front of you, right the frick now, that's magic. you can't justify where that energy came from, it just manifested out of thin air. that's pure fricking magic, shouldn't be possible in this universe, and the only conclusion is that some higher power that is out of this universe, above it, intervened. that divine action is magic, isn't possible via any means, can only be done by something akin to a god. that is why it's important to have this definition for it, because if you ever experience it, it's clearly God or something similar to it.
            if you're assigning to magic anything with low probability that's kinda meh

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That’s not objective, since there’s an objective background to the foreground, always. That’s still just “magic” in the sense that you don’t know how it happened. Again, no different from the magician on the stage.

            > what you are saying is that magic is whatever you fancy whenever you fancy
            Tough shit, buddy. The fact that there are so many fantasists today arguing over what magic is/isn’t, more or less affirms anon’s point, that magic is purely psychological.

            > it just manifested out of thin air. that's pure fricking magic, shouldn't be possible in this universe
            But it did happen, so it IS possible. I don’t care if it was sent by some higher dimensional alien, anon.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Tough shit, buddy.
            listen bucko, magic is not real. clean up your room.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It’s not supposed to be real, to be real, is the point.

            Cold doesn’t exist either. Neither does darkness, or holes.

            Things can definitely “exist” due to a vital lack. This is basic physics.

            Magic is a lack in the psychological department.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What is magic to one is not going to be magic to another.

            It’s the same with gods and religion.
            —“Your god is a demon, mine is a true god”.
            It is purely subjective.

            If something exists, it can be viewed as magic or non-magic.

            A world of wizards is a world where no one is a wizard. It’s no longer occult.

            This is why the Clarkean logic (“any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic”) is so apt, since it goes both ways.

            Often magic isn’t even magic to the magician. People who poke at black boxes inevitably put themselves into one.

            Tolkien understood this, and it’s why his elves don’t believe in (elven) magic.

            Let me ask you this, anon.

            Does God view Himself as a God? Would God view His miracles as truly miraculous? Is a human a God to ants? Is dropping a single jelly bean on an anthill a miracle?

            You have to first consider something magic, divine, etc, for it to be considered magic, divine, etc.

            The modern wizard is literally just the mad scientist hanging off the edges of present day understanding.

            The objective empiricism of natural existence, and the magic that lies within the subjection of the mind’s eye.

            God to the physicist is a sufficiently advanced ("godlike") extra-dimensional alien/entity.

            God to the Christian meanwhile is simply 'He', 'God', 'Yahweh', 'Jehovah', etc. He is a Name.

            To the Christian physicist, it is both. The two do not cancel each other out.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It’s not supposed to be real, to be real, is the point.

            Cold doesn’t exist either. Neither does darkness, or holes.

            Things can definitely “exist” due to a vital lack. This is basic physics.

            Magic is a lack in the psychological department.

            High IQ

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i don't know why you bother.
            these discussions always get down to someone imposing a random categorical distinction to make a point that gets more and more superfluous and unnecessary and meaningless as you inquire further into their terms. will mereological nihilists stay winning forever? not that they meaningfully exist

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            By ‘vital gap’ he means “I don’t know what the frick is going on right now, it may as well be magic”, or “How did you DO that? Are you a wizard?”, or something else along those lines. A gap in understanding. A lack of exposure.

            This is why the elves in Tolkien’s middle-earth don’t actually believe in (elven) magic. Or why the black machines of Mordor are considered black magic They’re too exposed, or unexposed, respectively. No different from a magician on the stage.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i don’t know who tolkien is but he sounds like a moron too

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >science is totally logic and DANGEROUS!!!

    9 US companies produced daily genome editing kits in China to enable Chinese 2.0 scientists to experiment with human-compatible cell viruses a variety of reactions involving animal cell viruses, with the goal of creating new hybrid viruses and vaccines. like covid 19

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cas9 (CRISPR associated protein 9, formerly called Cas5, Csn1, or Csx12) is a 160 kilodalton protein

      The COVID-19 virus, also known as SARS-CoV-2, is composed of multiple proteins, each with its own molecular weight. The virus has a genome that encodes for several structural and non-structural proteins. The molecular weights of these proteins vary, ranging from around 3 to 200 kilodaltons (kDa). However, there isn't a single protein in the virus with a molecular weight of exactly 160 kDa that is universally recognized as a defining characteristic. The exact composition and molecular weights of the proteins in SARS-CoV-2 are topics of ongoing research and may vary depending on factors such as viral strain and experimental methods used for analysis.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >you will never be a significant enough scientist for Anons to make memes about you online
      What is it all for

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    physishits learn power electronics?

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >a woman is whatever I feel like it is whenever I feel like, can change, is a spectrum
    go back to plebbit

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >bringing up troons out of fricking nowhere
    A bit unhinged, don’t you think?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      magic is not whatever you feel like it is. just because it gets you clapping like a seal doesn't mean it's magic. it looks like magic, but it's not magic. magic is something else, it's the work of powers outside the universe and time. it's the realm of gods. stop using it for moronic shit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > magic is not whatever you feel like it is
        It literally is. Magic is what you make of it. Magic lies within the mind’s eye. What is magic to one is not magic to another.

        “That’s not magic, THIS is Magick!”
        “That’s not magic, it’s a miracle!”

        Even math, fricking math, was treated as magic for thousands of years, all the way back to Pythagoras, all the way up to Newton.

        If math can be treated as magic, then why not anything else? There is nothing purer or simpler than math.

        This isn’t really possible to debate or argue against, sadly. Since again, just look at modern fantasists and writers arguing over what is/isn’t magic.

        Magic is art.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >This isn’t really possible to debate or argue against, sadly. Since again, just look at modern fantasists and writers arguing over what is/isn’t magic.
          interesting. then why
          >woah it's magic!
          >no, it's technology, we call it a mobile phone
          always happened that way, get hit with the "no it's not, it's actually...". why is that always the case? because whenever it happens it has an explanation. if it didn't, it would have been magic, and the "no it's not, it's actually..." is never spoken.
          because magic is that which is impossible. not unlikely, impossible!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >i'm inventing an arbitrary class of objects that necessarily cannot exist

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yeah hence why, like that, magic is peak power. you're just diluting its meaning with stupid shit

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            whats the point in making up a random useless definition of a word

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >frick words and their meaning

            What is possible or impossible is relative. You keep dodging the argument.

            A crashed UFO is borderline magic to us. Not to the alien pilot, however.

            >A crashed UFO is borderline magic to us.
            yeah but they really aren't magic. they are tech.
            >What is possible or impossible is relative.
            we managed to write down some of the rules of this universe. only magic could change them.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > yeah but they really aren't magic. they are tech.
            Even magic in fiction will have a background to it, you realize. Otherwise it wouldn’t exist in-fiction. This is like trying to make a fiction where math (1s and 0s) doesn’t exist. It’s not possible. You can’t fricking do it. Even an absolute nothing (0) is still a something (1).

            You keep tripping over yourself.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > yeah but they really aren't magic. they are tech.
            The stereotypical image of the wizard has much to do with technology. Their tower, celestial orrery, fancy equipment, etc.

            I bet you think a wizard’s staff isn’t a piece of technology lmfao. The stone wheel is technology. Rolly rolly.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > I bet you think a wizard’s staff isn’t a piece of technology lmfao
            If the author says it isn’t then it isn’t

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            An author is perfectly capable of writing ignorance into their own work.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Everything in existence will have an objective (background) explanation to it, you realize. There is always a background to the foreground. Always.

            All I all, I really don’t think you -want- to get the point the above anons are making. Are you just not satisfied or something? You want magic to be something…more…?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            causality is only presumed and cannot be proven, so it's an interesting question, whether or not acausality is the universal state of reality, or causality, or whether the two can coexist.
            thoughts?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > causality is only presumed and cannot be proven
            lolok

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://iep.utm.edu/hume-causation/

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you cannot falsify the idea that nothing has a root cause external of itself and that it is true random chaos, therefore it is well within the realm of possibility. causation is not open and shut. it is only physically but not metaphysically apparent.

            https://i.imgur.com/2X6OZVP.png

            >frick words and their meaning
            [...]
            >A crashed UFO is borderline magic to us.
            yeah but they really aren't magic. they are tech.
            >What is possible or impossible is relative.
            we managed to write down some of the rules of this universe. only magic could change them.

            >frick words and their meaning
            well to some extent yes.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What is possible or impossible is relative. You keep dodging the argument.

            A crashed UFO is borderline magic to us. Not to the alien pilot, however.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If something was actually impossible, it wouldn’t happen or exist at all. Magic can’t even exist in fiction, technically speaking, when you recognize this sort of irony. Things happen in-fiction. The in-setting treats itself as existent.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Different cultures around the globe have opposing, conflicting and quite contradictory terms and accounts of what it means for something to meet the criteria to be considered magic, you realize.

        Modern technology technically meets all the criteria.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >wizards can manipulate the elements
    >so can chemists
    science = magick

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Today anons think they can separate time from space. They appear to think anything can progress without time in the space.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s impossible to separate magic from religion, science or art.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's just a word. you can't derive any non-semantic truth from any of this shit.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >It’s another episode of moronic and underaged spergs who refuse to capitalize their sentences or even geasp what science fricking is

    Reruns fricking suck, they do.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All you can do is repeat basic information back to them and hope it soaks in, slowly.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah I'm taking magic away from you because you're misusing it

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Care to explain what magic was used and how in any of pic related?

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how large would a 20W RTG get? with some shielding. like a trickle charge for some robot, if it fails to find an energy source it can hibernate and charge in time. but how small and ~safe could a say 20W RTG be made? or even 10W.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get in here using your magic energy rock + crystal machines.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    At this point I'm starting to find it offensive how people don't see the magic science gave them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bruh my cellphone isn’t magic mang

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    'magic' is just science not tested and understood yet.

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