Sedes are the Roman Catholic Church Now

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the magisterium and the office of St. Peter have fallen
    Sounds like they just demolish Catholicism lmao. How is a legit Pope ever meant to be elected if every cardinal isn't a real cardinal and the entirety of the magisterium is dead and overrun by Satan?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Some from the theory "If you build it, they will come"

      If you build it, they will come.
      We are all familiar with this line from the movie, Field of Dreams, but are we acquainted with the vision, desire and hard work that is required to make this conversant saying a reality?
      The proposed association of Catholic priests, organized under the designation, Priests for the Restoration of Catholic Life (hereafter referred to as the “Restorationists”), envisions a unified Catholic clergy with the singular mission of leading the faithful toward a truly Catholic life. To stay focused on this objective, we are establishing an association of priests trained to teach, practice (liturgical) and live an authentically Catholic existence. To ensure simplicity of purpose, each Chapel or Church founded will operate independently of any institutionalized organization yet remain part of the Church instituted by Christ Jesus. We rely on the spiritual maturity of each priest to conduct the affairs of a parish with humility and uprightness. This may seem like a tall order, considering the depths to which the Modernists have sunk the priesthood, but it is possible for men of good will. Also, autonomous foundations will eliminate the need for extensive fundraising campaigns and corporate share-pooling.
      Validly consecrated Bishops will function as the spiritual heads of the associated priests, serving them as spiritual fathers rather than as corporate bosses. With authority based on spiritual jurisdiction, rather than physical jurisdiction, the bishops will counsel and guide the ongoing education and formation of the priests under their charge.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because the Church is in heaven as well as on earth, it could never cease to exist, but it could cease to be visible to men who need Her saving grace. As evidence of this reality, Saint Robert Bellarmine in his work on the Church Militant entitled, De Controversiis Christianae Fidei Adversus Huius Temporis Haereticos, confirms that it is the faithful receiving the Sacraments of the Church that makes the Church visible here on earth: “the Church is a gathering of men using the same Sacraments, within the same Faith handed to the Apostles by Jesus Christ.”

      So this is saying the church is in heaven too not just on Earth

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's just the Protestant view, the invisible church which isn't tied to a single organisation.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i dont understand most anti-sede Catholics. even they agree and admit the changes in the vatican 2 are bizzare, but still hold loyalty to the roman pontiff. Jesuits spread lies into the church well before that too

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It is a cult. If your synods and your popes cannot maintain an orthodoxy there is a big problem maybe.

    Want to know the problem? I will tell you. Is it modernity? Not exactly. Then what?

    >THE TRINITY IS NOT BIBLICAL AND IT IS OBVIOUS

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Give me one unambiguous Trinitarian verse from the Bible. Ten thousand points if it comes from the OT.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          "The Word was God, and the Word was with God"

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            go to bed anon

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you gonna come tuck me in

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Genesis 1, God refers to himself as "us" indicating plurality.
          Genesis 18, God appears to Abraham as three men.

          The OT portrays God as plural and as three.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The Roman church lives or died on the papacy. This schizophrenic view on the papacy is self-contradictory. Just accept the papacy is false and be Protestant.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      *Just accept the papacy is false and be Orthodox

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What about this explanation of hell not prevailing?

      "Because the Church is in heaven as well as on earth, it could never cease to exist, but it could cease to be visible to men who need Her saving grace. As evidence of this reality, Saint Robert Bellarmine in his work on the Church Militant entitled, De Controversiis Christianae Fidei Adversus Huius Temporis Haereticos, confirms that it is the faithful receiving the Sacraments of the Church that makes the Church visible here on earth: “the Church is a gathering of men using the same Sacraments, within the same Faith handed to the Apostles by Jesus Christ.”

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There is one view some people have called "the thesis" or the "cassiciacum thesis"/formal sedevacantism but some say it's contradictory. For example, this priest saying:

      "He can be ‘pope’ legally/materially without enjoying actual power to rule."

      "God can permit the Church to be deprived of authority, bc the mission of the Church can continue w/out the actual exercise of authority.
      God cannot permit the Church to teach authoritatively harmful doctrines, bc this would be diametrically opposed to the mission of the Church."

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They forget the part where the gates of hell will never prevail against the Church and get too attached to church practices like pharisees did in the past.

      *Just accept the papacy is false and be Orthodox

      Just accept the bible and be Catholic.
      "I prayed for you Peter that your faith will not fail...strengthen your brothers".

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why is he doing the Mozlems gesture?

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