WTF we already have self driving in the city now? How come no one told me about this?
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WTF we already have self driving in the city now? How come no one told me about this?
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It's still work in progress. People give Tesla shit for constantly saying "FSD next year, I swear", but at least they are working on it.
We've had it for a long time.
It's not very trustworthy, though.
>Tesla
>self driving
Why do you need someone sitting in the front seat then? Waymo is the real deal though
I cant own it, its not mine, I dont have it, its not there.
I could see Google licensing it to other car manufacturers to allow for use in personal vehicles eventually. Much more likely we see manufacturers of expensive cars where they can afford to throw in all the LIDAR stuff try to get this in their cars than taking up Elon on his offer to license Tesla FSD, but I've heard very good things about the new "neural nets only" FSD so maybe it'll catch up to Waymo sooner than I think
It costs ~$150K in hardware.
Meanwhile, the video in OP is a Tesla driving itself with just cameras (~$100 or less) and a small inference chip that costs ~$1K
>It costs ~$150K in hardware.
Maybe 10 years ago. Doesn't Waymo make all their sensors in house now since they got tired of being israelite'd by other vendors? Not sure how much other companies pay, but last I remember seeing an estimate for Waymo's setup was only 20-30k on top of the regular cost of the car for the full wrap of sensors, touchscreens, other upgrades.
If we're talking luxury cars that people are fine burning $50-80k or sometimes even more on already there's probably a big enough market of people willing to spend another $20k+ on the "le ebig reddit sensor package" just so they can post tiktoks of themselves in the back seat while the car drives itself
Even if you wanna low ball it with $20-$30K, thats still 50-80K+$20-30K.
Then on top of that, Google isnt clear about how their technology works behind the scene. We dont know how their internet operators work, how much is on local and how much via internet control. Its a blackbox for all we know.
Meanwhile, we know just about everything with Teslas and they are fully offline, works on 99% of the cases, and they 've been getting more useful each passing release. A year or two ago, the car was driving fine on low traffic city. 3 years before that, it was driving just fine on highways. Now its able to drive in heavy city traffic just fine.
>We dont know how their internet operators work, how much is on local and how much via internet control. Its a blackbox for all we know.
I would have to check their site but from what I remember they're upfront about the fact that the majority of the compute is processed locally since latency concerns prevent them from handling it all remotely, but it still does require a constant connection to their servers because they don't trust the cars to go off on their own.
I think Tesla FSD still needs a lot of time in the kitchen before it can truly compete with something like Waymo, but I would personally consider Waymo the gold standard of self-driving cars right now with Tesla and Cruise fighting for second place. I just want to see more of the newest version of FSD. Ignoring performance, the fact that they're doing everything using off the shelf cameras and no LIDAR is impressive by its own right
Show dont tell. Without people doing the test themselves in all types of conditions like Tesla drivers are doing with their cars, we cant know what the car is doing, what the car can do, etc. All we get are PR videos and closed experience system
you can't own a Tesla car either. Tesla owns your car
>How come no one told me about this?
because youre getting your tech info from a board of reddit troons with MDS and a fetish for linux
Many cars here are self-driving already as well. Technology-wise the car can just go straight, but drivers feel confident enough to leave the driving to their car and type on their phone instead.
>cars can just go straight
Low expectation. No one's talking about cruise control. Further no one's talking about highway driving. Cruise control is decades old. Highway driving is close to decade old with Tesla being the pioneer. Now other car companies have similar level to what Tesla had on highway ~10 years ago.
The current bar is city driving, busy city driving. Tesla can do low traffic city/neighborhood just fine for the past year or so. They may be now able to do busy city driving with multiple busy interactions as you see in NYC driving tests over the last few weeks.
no they aren't self driving
they just have a drive assist that require driver to be constantly alert and take the charge at moments notice
real self-driving cars are "2 more years" away just like 2 years ago
I doubt we will see any self-driving cars in 2030
Waymo taxis are extremely limited form of self driving with niche use case thats available in ~2-3 cities with limited test capabilities
I really need a self driving car that I can sleep in
Imagine
You could live 2 hours away from work and just sleep during the commute
Such savings
Tesla lies about everything.
>rejecting evidence from million people who drive the car because propaganda fed you lies.
I actually reject their evidence because they lie too.
cultism is the lowest form of autism.
Why is Tesla so shit at AI? Why the frick did they have an LLM guy directing a self-driving project?
>next word predictor behind self-driving AI
what could possible go wrong?
this
These self driving things break down every SINGLE time you have areas where police stop traffic and have to wave you through or you get some kind of hazard on the road
calling it self-driving is pretty moronic for now, it's more of like a super-cruise control. Still cool, but not named appropriately.
itt 2 trannies repeatedly seething about musk
Where's the Roadster 2?
Check out comma as an alternative of buying a Tesla. Anybody tried it out or vouch?
Haven't used it myself but look up people that have used it in actual conditions and not autism-man's PR videos or moronic youtubers that only use it in the most ideal conditions possible. It struggles really badly with heavy traffic, poor weather, or even just unexpected obstacles like garbage bins, stopped trucks, and partly obstructed stop signs/lights.
Pretty much only safe and consistent to use on a highway with clear weather in the middle of the day with light traffic