They're useful. They also protect all your favorite sites from DDOS attacks. The only legitimate complaint against them is privacy/trust but what have they done to be distrusted anywhere near as much as Google? Nothing.
>a badly scrapped, ad riddled, mirror of sadpanda
I lol'd
2 months ago
Anonymous
>ad riddled
skill issue, also nhentai has a better search and navigation than sadpanda. doesn't matter if you have more stuff if I can't find it anyway
>but what have they done to be distrusted
Well. >MITM the entire internet (TLS is terminated at CF) >Cloudbleed >Censorship of certain platforms that they don't like.
Frick CloudFlare.
>but what have they done to be distrusted anywhere near as much as Google?
Literally selling user data to glowies, then founding CloudFlare upon realizing how much money there was to be made with that?
https://web.archive.org/web/20170715120434/http://news.sys-con.com/node/2150588
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-37348016 >We ran it as a hobby and didn't think much about it until, in 2008, the Department of Homeland Security called and said, "Do you have any idea how valuable the data you have is?" That started us thinking about how we could effectively deploy the data from Project Honey Pot, as well as other sources, in order to protect websites online. That turned into the initial impetus for CloudFlare.
I'd say them arbitrarily making it impossible to connect to half the internet by breaking support for anything that isn't the newest version of Chrome on a bi-monthly basis is pretty shitty.
>but what have they done to be distrusted anywhere
reminder the Black personflare employee will never reply to the fact that they decrypt all traffic before forwarding it (to the actual destination outside of the CIA of course):
https://developers.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-one/policies/gateway/http-policies/tls-decryption/
>they're useful
They are quite consistently a meme solution used by incompetents and break browsers, etc. so you get a bunch of cloudflare captchas for shit that should not have a captcha. >what have they done to be distrusted
They stated that they wouldn't use their clout against anyone and then immediately withdrew their service within a week.
You don't need Cloudflare to protect yourself from DDoS attacks,
The truth is, you're unlikely to ever get DDoSed at all. Even if you do piss someone off, the vast majority of these attacks can be warded off by simple self-hosted solutions, such as nginx-lua-anti-ddos or haproxy-protection (which is what the Kiwi Farms use). These preserve your security, and, in my opinion, are preferable to being MiTM by Cloudflare and having all your sensitive data fed to God knows where.
>Why are they so popular?
They've been around for a long time. I remember them stopping ddos for lulzsec. They just became a lot more corporate and bigger since then.
This
I could live without DDoS protection, but having my IP private is a godsend, and has the added benefit of my ISP not raping me from too many wild incoming connections since they're all CloudFlare IPs
No I will not buy VPSs just to act as proxies to mask my IP.
Anyone can read the packet flow but if the data is encrypted they not actually reading your traffic.
Søyflare literally removes the encryption between them and the servers, this is clearly a honeypot.
Never do something illegal on Cloudflare «protected» sites.
>hitler set the government building on fire to give himself emergency powers >cloudflare DDoSed and instigated 4cuck raids to force IQfy to adopt cuckflare
those who forget history are doomed to repeat it... or something
Because the government needs a private corporation to handle their web censorship requests so they don't get accused of violating free speech. Cuckflare has shown they intend to be the Internet Police.
I went to a conference once and the cloudflare booth had some real qts. We drank a little afterwards and tried to get them to come out with us, but the most experienced of them all was able to get the rest to not join in. She took my phone and signed me up with a free voucher for whatever the cloudflare conference was knowing full well I'd never go. b***h. I love her.
Because it's extremely easy for anyone to nuke your website from orbit and Cloudflare is basically free to use. It's not 30 years ago, nowadays there are millions of zombie IoT devices that can be used for a DDOS attack so it's trivial to summon up a swarm. If you have a website that MAKES MONEY downtime is LOST MONEY. You can literally do the math to calculate being down for 6 hours from a DDOS attack is $10,000.
>but what have they done to be distrusted anywhere near as much as Google?
Literally selling user data to glowies, then founding CloudFlare upon realizing how much money there was to be made with that?
https://web.archive.org/web/20170715120434/http://news.sys-con.com/node/2150588
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-37348016 >We ran it as a hobby and didn't think much about it until, in 2008, the Department of Homeland Security called and said, "Do you have any idea how valuable the data you have is?" That started us thinking about how we could effectively deploy the data from Project Honey Pot, as well as other sources, in order to protect websites online. That turned into the initial impetus for CloudFlare.
. Cloudflare was made specifically to harvest data for glowies. 'DDOS protection', previously not considered necessary (even though 'hacktivist' DDOSing preceded it by a long time), was just the marketing used to push it on hosts.
Free (as in beer) CDN, DNS, & WAF. What's not to love? Are you going to tell people they should part with their hard earned cash to utilise things that CF are offerring for free? LMAO!
Layer 0: free reverse proxy and anti-DDOS; no one else offered free reverse proxy and anti-DDOS at the time (or even now?)
Layer -1: "free" anti-DDOS and reverse proxy; if people get attacked enough without paying or otherwise become a problem, they can be dropped, and if the right people come knocking, they can be ratted out. Without actually being an effective product, it can both advertise to corpos, and subsidize the slow molestation of infrastructure for small-timers until you can eventually charge whatever and get away with it because of legacy.
Layer -2 (schizo layer): Where did Cloudflare suddenly get the money to MITM the entire internet from? If I were the NSA, it'd be really convenient in a post-HTTPS world to have a company that terminates TLS get very popular, store most of the metadata, and commit espionage on your behalf.
hehe orange cloud
They're useful. They also protect all your favorite sites from DDOS attacks. The only legitimate complaint against them is privacy/trust but what have they done to be distrusted anywhere near as much as Google? Nothing.
>They also protect all your favorite sites from DDOS attacks
I've yet to see a single good website use this shit
Mostly because of scrapers being too stupid to use an API
nhentai.net
>a badly scrapped, ad riddled, mirror of sadpanda
I lol'd
>ad riddled
skill issue, also nhentai has a better search and navigation than sadpanda. doesn't matter if you have more stuff if I can't find it anyway
What do you consider a good website? Only the worst ones seem to not have it.
>What do you consider a good website?
One that doesn't use cloudflare.
tv.incel.shop
IQfy
he said good website moron
tell me a good website that doesn't use it so that I can rape it
mitm
>mitm
>what have they done to be distrusted
they blocked access to a forum
>but what have they done to be distrusted
Well.
>MITM the entire internet (TLS is terminated at CF)
>Cloudbleed
>Censorship of certain platforms that they don't like.
Frick CloudFlare.
>does not allow comfortable cli interaction with the web
reee
>muh ddos
How about not writing shit server side code?
it's easier and cheaper to just use cloudflare
>t. cloudflare employee
this shit will get outlawed one day because of how shit and bloat it is
>but what have they done to be distrusted anywhere near as much as Google?
Literally selling user data to glowies, then founding CloudFlare upon realizing how much money there was to be made with that?
https://web.archive.org/web/20170715120434/http://news.sys-con.com/node/2150588
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-37348016
>We ran it as a hobby and didn't think much about it until, in 2008, the Department of Homeland Security called and said, "Do you have any idea how valuable the data you have is?" That started us thinking about how we could effectively deploy the data from Project Honey Pot, as well as other sources, in order to protect websites online. That turned into the initial impetus for CloudFlare.
I'd say them arbitrarily making it impossible to connect to half the internet by breaking support for anything that isn't the newest version of Chrome on a bi-monthly basis is pretty shitty.
>but what have they done to be distrusted anywhere
reminder the Black personflare employee will never reply to the fact that they decrypt all traffic before forwarding it (to the actual destination outside of the CIA of course):
https://developers.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-one/policies/gateway/http-policies/tls-decryption/
>they're useful
They are quite consistently a meme solution used by incompetents and break browsers, etc. so you get a bunch of cloudflare captchas for shit that should not have a captcha.
>what have they done to be distrusted
They stated that they wouldn't use their clout against anyone and then immediately withdrew their service within a week.
Without them some script kiddie will ddos your site
>i need big brother to protect me from the heckin ddos attackerinos
You don't need Cloudflare to protect yourself from DDoS attacks,
The truth is, you're unlikely to ever get DDoSed at all. Even if you do piss someone off, the vast majority of these attacks can be warded off by simple self-hosted solutions, such as nginx-lua-anti-ddos or haproxy-protection (which is what the Kiwi Farms use). These preserve your security, and, in my opinion, are preferable to being MiTM by Cloudflare and having all your sensitive data fed to God knows where.
Good luck moderating your site
Even Parallels Desktop has some kind of gay cloudflare integration and if you block the domain the CPU usage jumps 100%
It's really amazing what kind of garbage non-free software developers keep coming up with.
it purpose is to ensure youre not using VPN and that you can provide a valid vaccination card in order to surf the internet
Because they have a free tier and take the hit from skid botnets (or are a protection racket and run the skid botnets as well).
NSA advertising
Matthew Prince scrapes his wife's shit off my bell end with his teeth
I have an ec2 t2.micro just open on the web with no WAF serving a REST API for a mobile app (using mTLS) and a website through nginx
Am i just asking to get fricked? Seems to handle just fine
You're fine. Don't listen to mitmflare fearmongering.
Uh Oh Stinky
for what it's worth I've been familiar with them for about a decade
growth has been pretty organic up until recently tbh.
Because it is inorganic.
>Why are they so popular?
They've been around for a long time. I remember them stopping ddos for lulzsec. They just became a lot more corporate and bigger since then.
>werks
that's why
Makes self hosting at home viable without getting doxxed
This
I could live without DDoS protection, but having my IP private is a godsend, and has the added benefit of my ISP not raping me from too many wild incoming connections since they're all CloudFlare IPs
No I will not buy VPSs just to act as proxies to mask my IP.
They MiTM all your traffic,
but COME ON IT IS FREE!
nothing to hide, when you own nothing
>all my traffic is public
>oh noes dey mitm it
lel
>its okay when the glowies decrypt my traffic
Anyone can read the packet flow but if the data is encrypted they not actually reading your traffic.
Søyflare literally removes the encryption between them and the servers, this is clearly a honeypot.
Never do something illegal on Cloudflare «protected» sites.
>why is free* hosting popular
>*terms and conditions may apply
>free ddos protection
>free dns
>free ipv6 to ipv4 translation
>obliterates kiwispergs and baby duckies
I kneel
>hitler set the government building on fire to give himself emergency powers
>cloudflare DDoSed and instigated 4cuck raids to force IQfy to adopt cuckflare
those who forget history are doomed to repeat it... or something
>free
>ignores reports
>reduces my needed bandwidth significantly due to cache
>blocks ddos
why would I not use it
frick failedflare
Because the government needs a private corporation to handle their web censorship requests so they don't get accused of violating free speech. Cuckflare has shown they intend to be the Internet Police.
I went to a conference once and the cloudflare booth had some real qts. We drank a little afterwards and tried to get them to come out with us, but the most experienced of them all was able to get the rest to not join in. She took my phone and signed me up with a free voucher for whatever the cloudflare conference was knowing full well I'd never go. b***h. I love her.
Because it's extremely easy for anyone to nuke your website from orbit and Cloudflare is basically free to use. It's not 30 years ago, nowadays there are millions of zombie IoT devices that can be used for a DDOS attack so it's trivial to summon up a swarm. If you have a website that MAKES MONEY downtime is LOST MONEY. You can literally do the math to calculate being down for 6 hours from a DDOS attack is $10,000.
Because you motherfrickers DDOS everyone you don't like. You made this.
Bullshit, see
. Cloudflare was made specifically to harvest data for glowies. 'DDOS protection', previously not considered necessary (even though 'hacktivist' DDOSing preceded it by a long time), was just the marketing used to push it on hosts.
>https://developers.cloudflare.com/ssl/origin-configuration/ssl-modes/
it's always a plaintext at cloudflare
It's just a proxy in the middle anon. How else would it work?
>It's just a man in the middle (MiTM)
that's the whole point of those threads
Akamai passes the TLS traffic through for banks...
you fricks were so eager to frick with my shit but then once I mentioned cloudflare, the thread died for some reason
who remembers the massive shill campaigns for 1.1.1.1, when it launched there was at least 10 threads about it at any given point in time for months
If you don't use Cloudflare then Cloudflare will DDoS you until you pay the protection fee.
Free (as in beer) CDN, DNS, & WAF. What's not to love? Are you going to tell people they should part with their hard earned cash to utilise things that CF are offerring for free? LMAO!
Because it's free (as in free beer)
Racketeering. They sell protection from DDoS by their own customers who they cover for.
i hate it cause it breaks all my porn downloaders...
Easy, cheap or free, well known
Layer 0: free reverse proxy and anti-DDOS; no one else offered free reverse proxy and anti-DDOS at the time (or even now?)
Layer -1: "free" anti-DDOS and reverse proxy; if people get attacked enough without paying or otherwise become a problem, they can be dropped, and if the right people come knocking, they can be ratted out. Without actually being an effective product, it can both advertise to corpos, and subsidize the slow molestation of infrastructure for small-timers until you can eventually charge whatever and get away with it because of legacy.
Layer -2 (schizo layer): Where did Cloudflare suddenly get the money to MITM the entire internet from? If I were the NSA, it'd be really convenient in a post-HTTPS world to have a company that terminates TLS get very popular, store most of the metadata, and commit espionage on your behalf.