I don't know if I want to read it that's why I'm asking.
I feel like I'm missing out because it is highly rated /r/fantasy places it as the top 12 best fantasy book of all time for all that's worth)
It's shit. It's like the One Piece of fantasy books, it's only famous because it's so long and people feel like they are missing out by not reading it, and when they realize it's shit after 10 books they use sunk costs fallacy to keep going but it has no substance. It's just an objectively worse version of LOTR. The prose doesn't even save it, he recycles the same fricking sentences over and over, for example "she smoothed her skirt" gets repeated in evert fricking scene with a female character. If you're still curious about it just torrent the audiobook, it's not worth a minute of your time.
it's a dogshit rip off. Copied the fellowship of the ring so hard.
Group of adventurers set out on a quest
Leave comfy town
Plagued by black riders
There's a dark lord
There's the chosen one whos tasked with saving the day
Trollocks are basically orcs
There's a gandalf rip off and even a pub called the 9 rings.
A lot of this can be argued away, for example the heros journey archetype that's clearly present in both. But the rest just feels so unoriginal and cringe to read, I couldn't take it seriously. From what I've heard, the series doesn't continue down this route and does branch off to do it's own thing. But the first book wound me up so much I just couldn't carry on.
It's shit. It's like the One Piece of fantasy books, it's only famous because it's so long and people feel like they are missing out by not reading it, and when they realize it's shit after 10 books they use sunk costs fallacy to keep going but it has no substance. It's just an objectively worse version of LOTR. The prose doesn't even save it, he recycles the same fricking sentences over and over, for example "she smoothed her skirt" gets repeated in evert fricking scene with a female character. If you're still curious about it just torrent the audiobook, it's not worth a minute of your time.
If it's so bad why is it so Popular? Contrarian much?
congratulations, they swapped out one characteristic
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If it's so bad why is it so Popular? Contrarian much?
If that's the case I'd dislike lotr more because it's clearly more famous and more popular. If you're just going to reduce everything to " hur dur it's popular so it must be good" then why the frick are you even here discussing it?
Go read whatever goyslop is on the current bestsellers list.
>What am I in for?
An extremely detailed fantasy epic with a huge scope and loads of characters and over a dozen volumes. Perhaps the archetypal example of such a series.
If you want to get lost in a fantastic world and/or have tons and tons of time to kill, go for it. If you expect deep and thought provoking literary fiction don't bother.
>Should I read this?
No >What am I in for?
A slow paced shitfest with annoying characters with nonexistent or illogical motivations for their actions and a plot and worldbuilding that makes no sense. The first two books are ok, I guess. >If I read this then I plan to read the whole thing, good idea?
Good luck getting past Egwene
>What am I in for?
An extremely detailed fantasy epic with a huge scope and loads of characters and over a dozen volumes. Perhaps the archetypal example of such a series.
If you want to get lost in a fantastic world and/or have tons and tons of time to kill, go for it. If you expect deep and thought provoking literary fiction don't bother.
Arguably the second most influential nfnd important work in lal of fantasy
Nowadays it's not considered the greatest but it's still in the top 20 easly, plus there's loads of it
There is something jn there for everyone
All fantasy aside from JRRT, CS Lewis, Brian Jacques, and maybe GRRM (he's a masterful writer but the fact ASOIAF won't ever be finished completely ruins his engaging writing) is complete garbage.
Just because something is influential doesn't mean it's worth reading.
Influence of art is like a Ponzi scheme, you can keep tracing works to earlier works all the way to cave paintings, does that mean cave paintings are actually peak art? No, they were at the time and they earned their place in history but nobody would seriously say nowadays that they're the best we have when I comes to pictures.
Just because something is influential doesn't mean it's worth reading.
Influence of art is like a Ponzi scheme, you can keep tracing works to earlier works all the way to cave paintings, does that mean cave paintings are actually peak art? No, they were at the time and they earned their place in history but nobody would seriously say nowadays that they're the best we have when I comes to pictures.
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Notice how that post doesn't mention anything good about the series, just talks about muh influence
WoT is shit, the type of books that turn normies off of reading books, unnecessarily long descriptions of minute details that never come up again or mean anything. Boring characters with incomprehensible motivations. Every female character is a huge b***h. Weirdly sexual and fetishistic for no reason. I can go on, but it should be enough.
All the good will of the fans was running out but then the author died so they decided to not speak ill of the dead.
No. Imagine the most annoying time-wasting conversationalist you have ever spoken to and how annoying they were. Now imagine what life would be like if said individual owned a typewriter. This is what it is like to read the literary works of Robert Jordan.
FYI He literally died before he finished his endless blather / novel series. So if you read "The Eye of the World" you'll never know how the story ends.
It's honestly great. Robert Jordan falls off before Brandon picks up on the final books so that becomes a breath of fresh air.
>it's great because it gets significantly worse
This has to be staged. Eating right next to a trash can, "loving your work" right above him, etc. It's too perfectly framed.
This is why you don't give your slaves nice things at work. It confuses them.
*employee
If you wan't to read it, just do it. You don't need validation.
I don't know if I want to read it that's why I'm asking.
I feel like I'm missing out because it is highly rated /r/fantasy places it as the top 12 best fantasy book of all time for all that's worth)
It's shit. It's like the One Piece of fantasy books, it's only famous because it's so long and people feel like they are missing out by not reading it, and when they realize it's shit after 10 books they use sunk costs fallacy to keep going but it has no substance. It's just an objectively worse version of LOTR. The prose doesn't even save it, he recycles the same fricking sentences over and over, for example "she smoothed her skirt" gets repeated in evert fricking scene with a female character. If you're still curious about it just torrent the audiobook, it's not worth a minute of your time.
it's a dogshit rip off. Copied the fellowship of the ring so hard.
Group of adventurers set out on a quest
Leave comfy town
Plagued by black riders
There's a dark lord
There's the chosen one whos tasked with saving the day
Trollocks are basically orcs
There's a gandalf rip off and even a pub called the 9 rings.
A lot of this can be argued away, for example the heros journey archetype that's clearly present in both. But the rest just feels so unoriginal and cringe to read, I couldn't take it seriously. From what I've heard, the series doesn't continue down this route and does branch off to do it's own thing. But the first book wound me up so much I just couldn't carry on.
If it's so bad why is it so Popular? Contrarian much?
Kids are always wolfing down garbage, and in the early 90s WoT was one of the few fantasy garbage piles around.
>gandalf rip off
Gandalf ain't a teacher from a medieval magic college nor is Frodo the reincarnation of the guy that beat the crap out of Melkor...
congratulations, they swapped out one characteristic
If that's the case I'd dislike lotr more because it's clearly more famous and more popular. If you're just going to reduce everything to " hur dur it's popular so it must be good" then why the frick are you even here discussing it?
Go read whatever goyslop is on the current bestsellers list.
It's the slowest paced Fantasy series ever written. If you like that, then go for it.
>What am I in for?
An extremely detailed fantasy epic with a huge scope and loads of characters and over a dozen volumes. Perhaps the archetypal example of such a series.
If you want to get lost in a fantastic world and/or have tons and tons of time to kill, go for it. If you expect deep and thought provoking literary fiction don't bother.
>Should I read this?
No
>What am I in for?
A slow paced shitfest with annoying characters with nonexistent or illogical motivations for their actions and a plot and worldbuilding that makes no sense. The first two books are ok, I guess.
>If I read this then I plan to read the whole thing, good idea?
Good luck getting past Egwene
Why did you copy this post
but replaced detiails with some bullshit lies?
Arguably the second most influential nfnd important work in lal of fantasy
Nowadays it's not considered the greatest but it's still in the top 20 easly, plus there's loads of it
There is something jn there for everyone
LOTR walked so WoT could run
Read malazan instead
All fantasy aside from JRRT, CS Lewis, Brian Jacques, and maybe GRRM (he's a masterful writer but the fact ASOIAF won't ever be finished completely ruins his engaging writing) is complete garbage.
>Brian Jacques
Oh frick off
Non-white spotted.
Wheel of Time was the most influential fantasy post LotR.
In between you had absolute tripe like shannara and Thomas covenant and untold number of other garbage novels.
There are two types of stories. A man leaves his home or a stranger arrives in town. So don’t fall into the trap that WoT is a rip off of LoTR.
I doubt that any fantasy from 1990 onwards would even exist in its current form without WoT.
Also - to poster that mentioned malazan needs to commit suicide. There is nothing redeeming in that entire series.
Just because something is influential doesn't mean it's worth reading.
Influence of art is like a Ponzi scheme, you can keep tracing works to earlier works all the way to cave paintings, does that mean cave paintings are actually peak art? No, they were at the time and they earned their place in history but nobody would seriously say nowadays that they're the best we have when I comes to pictures.
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Notice how that post doesn't mention anything good about the series, just talks about muh influence
WoT is shit, the type of books that turn normies off of reading books, unnecessarily long descriptions of minute details that never come up again or mean anything. Boring characters with incomprehensible motivations. Every female character is a huge b***h. Weirdly sexual and fetishistic for no reason. I can go on, but it should be enough.
All the good will of the fans was running out but then the author died so they decided to not speak ill of the dead.
It's not a lotr ripoff and that's a shame cuz it would be improved if it was
In your own words, what's wrong with malazan?
Every flaw j can think of is at least thrice as bad in wot
Not him but it's a lotr ripoff
>Should I read this?
No. Imagine the most annoying time-wasting conversationalist you have ever spoken to and how annoying they were. Now imagine what life would be like if said individual owned a typewriter. This is what it is like to read the literary works of Robert Jordan.
FYI He literally died before he finished his endless blather / novel series. So if you read "The Eye of the World" you'll never know how the story ends.