So God was Greedy, Jealous, Dishonest, Cruel, Arrogant, Selfish, Lazy, Envious, Angry and Intolerant. What made him a God then?
So God was Greedy, Jealous, Dishonest, Cruel, Arrogant, Selfish, Lazy, Envious, Angry and Intolerant.
So God was Greedy, Jealous, Dishonest, Cruel, Arrogant, Selfish, Lazy, Envious, Angry and Intolerant. What made him a God then?
>fedora tipper is filtered by the OT
Stop making it everyone else's problem.
>9 Then God said to Abraham, “As for you, you must keep my covenant, you and your descendants after you for the generations to come. 10 This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised. 11 You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you. 12 For the generations to come every male among you who is eight days old must be circumcised, including those born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner—those who are not your offspring. 13 Whether born in your household or bought with your money, they must be circumcised. My covenant in your flesh is to be an everlasting covenant. 14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant.”
What cryptic secrets are hidden in this verse? Any idiot could take a children's book and claim it has esoteric secrets hidden within.
The Bible has survived the test of time.
There's something to it, simple as that.
People have been sacrificing humans for more 5,000 years, does that mean it's special?
It was cooler when it was state-sanctioned and we all had a nice meal afterwards, but yes.
humans have evil in their nature, he could've killed us all and been done with us already
Did I hear a little whimper? Shows dunnit?
You don't even hate me. You're just shit and you got pleasure.
>What made him a God then?
Being strong enough to back it up.
So let me get this straight. You're going to go-to hell more than 16*, create a big bang and work for it for an eternity, just so you can get your supposed hate across to me and hunt me for forever? Bollox. You're just shit and you got pleasure.
So he's a petty tyrant?
May be so. But might makes right, and there's none mightier than him. So if he says he's not a petty tyrant but the benevolent all-loving all-knowing father figure creator of the universe, then he is.
What are you gonna do about it, tiny little manchild? Rage in your diapies until you get cancer and die?
So what does that make you, a slave or his b***h?
It makes all of us his b***hes, yes.
Man proposes, God disposes and all that.
Just to be clear, I'm not arguing for the existence of god, I'm arguing that if he did exist then we would all be in deep shit, because he is clearly fricked in the head and has more power than any group of humans could ever hope to have.
If the big man in the clouds sends you to hell for all eternity for touching your wiener thinking of anime girls, well that would be fricking horrible, but what could you do about it, but rage on your diapies?
So you choose to submit, be a follower, a worshiper and a bootlicker? It's not even a consideration to rebel? Sounds like cowardice.
You don't seem to get it.
I don't believe in god. But if God, the god of the bible, was shown to be 100% real, you would be a literal moron to try and go against him.
There is absolutely nothing you could possibly do. You can't even fight against a government controlled by mere mortals and hope to win. You can't fight against the criminal organizations that run the world and hope to come on top. How long would you survive if the government really wanted you dead?
I just heard about the Boeing whistleblower who commited suicide. No one's going to investigate that. The story's done. He's dead. Power wins.
Now you are telling me you want to rebel against God? Maybe in your animes this would make a lick of sense. You would jerk off to cartoons and burn for all eternity just to try to spite a being so great you're like an ant to it?
God is not a Shin Megami Tensei character. Check if you can beat death.
You sound defeated. To be demoralized by an idea is pathetic. Empty threats never killed anyone. God is a homosexual and so are the pussies who suck his imaginary wiener.
I love cursing at and defying things I know are not real too. Brave and stunning.
I want to eat virgin Mary's ass.
You're the type of Black person who justifies his slavery.
You sound just like the stereotypical reddit fedora tipper that keeps a katana.
>I love cursing at and defying things I know are not real too.
I see what you mean now.
Brave and stunning, truly.
No he isn't.
>israelites get scared of the iron wheeled chariots
>wow god is weak
you people are all the same. you don't actually read the good book you are critiquing.
>israelites get scared of the iron wheeled chariots
You added that. The text says HE couldn't drive them out. Why are you unable to honestly engage with the text?
And even of it were true he would be quite pathetic to need israelites to fight his battles for him.
because i've read the bible and you are cherry picking one verse. see joshua 17:16; actually, read joshua in its entirety. you cannot read this book in a vacuum. this led to god revoking his helping hand.
This doesn't change anything. God was too weak to drive out the inhabitants of the mountain due to their iron chariots. Thus he isn't omnipotent.
read what i said again. god was with judah, they were too afraid to fight the iron wheeled chariots and then god removed his helping hand from them. this is in contrast to what happened in joshua . i suggest you read some commentary along side these stories to help with your understanding.
The Bible verse you referenced seems to be saying that God was unable to overcome the resistance of a "few chariots". Is that true?
First, is the translation of the verse an accurate translation?
>Brenton Septuagint: "And the Lord was with Judas, and he inherited the mountain; for they were not able to destroy the inhabitants of the valley, for Rechab prevented them."
We see here that there is a discrepancy between the Greek original and the Masoretic Hebrew. A simple typographical error could explain this, but it doesn't necessarily prove that the verse in question is in error.
The second thing to examine is whether we are correctly understanding the verse. A modernized English translation reads:
>"These people living along the coast had iron chariots, and so the people of Judah were not able to drive them out."
This translation does a better job of making it clear to the average reader that "was not able" applies to "the people of Judah", not to God. So our original interpretation was in error. Judah, through a lack of faith, was unable to drive out the inhabitants.
But, can God defeat chariots of iron?
>Judges 4:12-15
>When Sisera was told that Barak son of Abinoam had gone up Mount Tabor, he summoned all nine hundred of his iron chariots and all the men with him, from Harosheth-hagoyim to the River Kishon. Then Deborah said to Barak, “Arise, for this is the day that the LORD has delivered Sisera into your hand. Has not the LORD gone before you?” So Barak came down from Mount Tabor with ten thousand men following him. And in front of him the LORD routed with the sword Sisera, all his charioteers, and all his army.
>the bible is wrong
What a strange religion you pretend to practice.
This is why the Quran is better and Islam is growing. The Bible can't reach a modern audience
It's the same butthole god, sandBlack folk just seem to be less hypocritical about it.
Islam soara where Christianity dwindles. The Quran just is a better holy book than the Bible.
What are you talking about? Islam is getting wrecked everywhere online that I look. Since their scriptures are now available for anyone to look at, that religion is coming apart at the seams.
life has many doors, fedboy
God isn't those things, but let's pretend he is for the sake of the argument
He would STILL be God, because it isn't whatever the opposite of "greedy, selfish, jealous" other muh happy feefee qualities that make him God. It is more sophisticated attributes like omnipotence and omniscience that make him God. Him doing things that confuse you or make you uncomfortable has no bearing on his godlihood, in fact it's to be expected as we are finite creatures aspiring to comprehend the infinite. This is as much of an argument as me saying Charles Darwin was a poor scientist because he did a thing I didn't like at some point.
In short, you don't need to believe the bible is true if you don't want to, but you should have a more grown up understanding if you're going to critique it. I'm sure it frustrates you if someone says evolution is false because monkeys are still around.
No moron, it implies he himself is finite, maybe you're too stupid to understand on that level.
No it doesn't, it implies we are both finite and limited in our understanding. I could hurl the same at you and say you're too stupid to understand the text.
The point is, it's a juvenile argument from either end. Moral arguments are stupid. Even if I pointed out that Muhammad married a little girl (which I think is sinful and reprehensible) it isn't an argument, because if the Islamic god is real then he GETS to do these types of things. He's the creator of life and dictates purpose for everything. The adult discussion is whether said God exists, not whether he does things that confuse us or we dislike. The latter is to be expected on principle, as we explore the mind of the infinite
What you really want is a god made in your own image who validates all of your personal and arrogant 21st century qualms.
It's super simple buddy, try thinking for a second. Would a rich be greedy? What about the richest? Would a patient man be angry? Would a man who has everything be jealous.
If you think God is still going to be prone to human flaws then he is not God but simply a human, which shows he's not real and it's just garbage written by humans.
You are projecting greed into the text
You sound very angry for some reason
Try being less emotional and answer the question. How can an infinite being have the qualities of a finite one?
I don't believe greed is one of God's qualities so it's a loaded question. God is worthy of worship by virtue of being the highest possible being. It is a privilege to worship the one true God. As I said, the question is whether or not he is the true God, not whether or not he is "greedy". If he is the true God then he gets to be "greedy". And angry and intolerant or whatever he wants to be.
As for jealousy, it is natural and healthy for the husband to be jealous towards his children who turn and call another man father.
I don't think I am being emotional, I think you are textbook projecting by calling me that. As you are clearly the emotional one.
>As for jealousy, it is natural and healthy for the husband
I should have said father not husband, but point stands.
Is God separate from you?
We are two different beings, yes.
How is he infinite if he can't even pervade space, he is not omnipresent then or omniscient and omnipotent since evil is also outside his scope.
Pervade space, as in God cannot occupy my being? He could if he wants. I never said he can't.
As for God existing outside of evil, this is necessary as God is the purest good. Saying God isn't all powerful because he doesn't occupy evil (or however you want to phrase it) is logically incoherent with his nature, it is like saying "God must make himself limited in order to prove he is limitless". Its a nonsensical demand.
>Pervade space, as in God cannot occupy my being? He could if he wants. I never said he can't.
The fact he doesn't proves he's not infinite.
>As for God existing outside of evil, this is necessary as God is the purest good.
Yet he is still Greedy, Jealous, Dishonest, Cruel, Arrogant, Selfish, Lazy, Envious, Angry and Intolerant.
>Saying God isn't all powerful because he doesn't occupy evil (or however you want to phrase it) is logically incoherent with his nature, it is like saying "God must make himself limited in order to prove he is limitless". Its a nonsensical demand.
Learn what these words mean, omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent
>The fact he doesn't proves he's not infinite.
You are intellectually dishonest. You don't actually believe this is how it works.
Tell me why I'm wrong.
Your entire conundrum is "God doesn't do things the way I would if I were God, so he's not real". You're too egotistical to argue against because as long as you can't make peace with the fact that God, on principle, has moral authority over all his creation (which includes demanding deaths, calling for worship, condemning any behavior he wants etc) then there is no reasoning with you. You've already made god in your own image.
What a joke you are. Can't even handle a logical critique. Yes now you know it's all bollocks keep coping.
You are not logical, your arguments are appeals to emotion. You can't comprehend that God being mean has no bearing on him being real
Bro your whole argument is "nothing can shake my belief, not reason, not logic and not reality" you're delusional.
"God isn't real because he does things I don't like" isn't reasonable or logical. Your understanding is unsophisticated, immature and petty.
No buddy the things he does according to you disprove his existence as an omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent being, therefore not God. Stop projecting and bring substance next time, not emotion.
You constantly calling me emotional is such a textbook projection. It is fascinating to see.
Still no logical refutation, just more complaining.
>omnipotence and omniscience
The god of the bible is neither.
i have yet to hear a compelling argument that the Hebrew national deity is God.
Bible literalists are idiots
Most Christians understand that the OT is a mix of a wide number of tales from different authors, most of which are morality tales. The NT on the other hand is various accounts of the life and divinity of Jesus Christ.
If you take the OT 100% literally, you’re missing the point of God’s teachings.
is it fair to say that this covenant with abraham ended with the coming of the other covenants? the one with the israelites, then jesus?
Don't f9rget ge also raped Mary with his spiritual penis or something, or at least that's the Christcuck lore these days
Wow.
This is the single most moronic thread I have ever seen on IQfy. Is this a psyop to make atheist look stupid?
Wow.
Christians are getting destroyed so I’m going to make a post akin to letting out a stinky wet fart so everyone will leave without seeing the destruction.
Imagine being a europoor and realizing your entire culture and society has been grifted for thousands of years by what amounts to sandBlack person fairytales