Tiling was designed by extremely inflexible routine-driven autists who prefer text based everything with vi keybinds for themselves. If that’s you, great.
Yes, that was my point. Separating paragraphs with blank lines is much more readable. That's why it was always common on IQfy since the very beginning and it dates back even further with email and Usenet.
What actually IS a newbie posting style is blockposting (never using newlines). Of course, the only reason people do that is because they are scared of the stupid "Reddit spacing" meme, even though it's objectively harder to read.
I've used a tiling window manager exclusively since 2009. I'm pretty well convinced there's nothing better.
You don't like dynamic tags? Or you don't know about them, I guess?
>still treating your desktop like a fullscreen-only app so hard that even when you want to see different windows you have to fricking tile them like old DOS programs that awkwardly split their elements
Tiling is shit for idiots.
>when you want to see different windows you have to
And people who use stacking wm's don't spend an hour each day fiddling with their window sizes, layout, etc?
>And people who use stacking wm's don't spend an hour each day fiddling with their window sizes, layout, etc?
No, they really don't. Window overlapping is actually a desirable feature that eliminates the need for obsessive fine-grained control over window layout.
Tiling window managers solve a problem that doesn't exist.
Unironically this. Stacking window managers feel more "free-form" and are more versatile. "Dynamic" approaches such as dwm are just attempts to work around the rigidity of the tiling paradigm by shuffling windows around in an arbitrary pattern, and it still doesn't work as good as floating windows.
Same. Everybody has different needs. If tiling suddenly becomes extremely IQfy disapproved then I will still be tiling because I don't give a frick about what you troony weebs think is trendy.
If you install awesomewm, you need to spend hours customizing it because it doesn't come with sensible defaults.
It also doesn't work with cinnamon on linux mint.
So yes, a meme for autists, never designed to become popular or be useful.
hmm idk, i like tiling. it does what it needs to do and that's it, and I don't have to worry about troony devs removing features or changing things on me like the gnomegays. the thing you gotta realize is that the meme layouts are only for reddit screenshots. i just use the master/stack layout, with 3 windows at a time at most, but usually just with 1. it's very comfy
>if you uninstall all the features yourself and only use a meme minimalist WM then you don't have to worry about devs removing features
IQfy never changes
Tiling is autistic as frick sure, but hey your computer right? You continue to not give a shit about my cinnamon desktop and ill continue to not give a shit about your tiling
I've always kinda dreamed of a good tiling window manager for windows. Winsplit revolution kind did it, powertoys kinda does it.
I dunno, it doesn't necessarily have to be pure autism to want an organized desktop no? I mean you can go too far.. sometimes you really just need a window to be highest in the Z index but sometimes it's nice in at least in embedded.
Some workflow I used to have:
40" 4k monitor,
teraterm connected to a UART to USB bottom middle pane, IDE connected to target to step center focus pane, conemu running connected to server to wait and see if ECU connects and sends records over IP in top pane. Toggling in notepad++/vs code over the idea focus pane. Maybe a browser floating around with task list or just browsin'. Maybe it's just autism but sometimes when I'm flipping through a bunch of open applications I lose my flow state.
Oh I forgot I'd put pidgin in one area top left or top right focus area. Maybe music player somewhere tho I don't mind just keeping that minimized and floating it.
Tags are such a neat idea, it's too bad all the window managers that support them are autistic tiling bullshit. Awesome supports floating windows but it's the most autistic of them all, you have to rice every fricking little thing if you don't want a fugly ass desktop.
Kinda funny that twm users keep posting that pic, since it shows the biggest problem with twms.
Look at xclock. It's supposed to be round, but isn't, because twms don't take into consideration that graphical programs usually have a optimal size range and optimal aspect ration to be used in. Programs can set those using size hints to the wm, but twms have to ignore them.
Twm only really work well with text based programs, and even then only to an extent. And as soon as a more complex pseudo-gui (like mc) is involved the things I said about regular guis apply.
dwm doesn't ignore size hints by default. You can see this if you use mpv. The mpv window wont fill its entire area if that breaks the aspect ratio that mpv prefers for the video.
>Most floating window managers are so bad they don't even have keybindings for basic operations.
Have you been using tiling wms only for your entire life or are you just trolling?
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I don't see any keybindings for manipulating floating windows in any way whatsoever in that screenshot.
fricking hate windows snap on multi monitor because the mouse cursor gets stuck at the edge of the screen when moving a window from one display to another with the mouse.
Tiling is the best default for most of my use cases. Occasionally it's better to have the window float, most tile managers have support for floating a window with a single keybind, so for me it makes the most sense to use a tilling wm and float windows when necessary.
>still treating your desktop like a fullscreen-only app so hard that even when you want to see different windows you have to fricking tile them like old DOS programs that awkwardly split their elements
Tiling is shit for idiots.
There should be one tile per processor core. Each tile should just contain a command prompt. Running a command in that tile should run it on the corresponding core.
I can't really understand why you would tile otherwise.
So when I used a floating wm i always found myself dragging stuff into tiles anyway is why I used it and it's fine for me
Nothing is a meme if it works for you but if it's not what you need then there's very little point in using it because it's trendy or whatever
You could also use something like a Kwin extension that allows tiling if you want something in between or to have options
It's fricking great and I wouldn't want to be w/o it. The stuff I work on basically involves having a shitton of terminals open and tiling is the best way to deal with that.
Yes.
Tiling was designed by extremely inflexible routine-driven autists who prefer text based everything with vi keybinds for themselves. If that’s you, great.
>FIREFOX ALWAYS GOES ON TAG 4! ALWAYS!!!!
>Hold strong opinions about strawmen
>reddit spacing
cringe
>reddit spacing
Frick off newbie. People have been using blank lines to separate paragraphs on IQfy since long before Reddit even existed.
pic related
Yes, that was my point. Separating paragraphs with blank lines is much more readable. That's why it was always common on IQfy since the very beginning and it dates back even further with email and Usenet.
What actually IS a newbie posting style is blockposting (never using newlines). Of course, the only reason people do that is because they are scared of the stupid "Reddit spacing" meme, even though it's objectively harder to read.
Dumb moron
oldtroon
>TAG 4
That's just like pinned icons on windows' task bar. Win+4 makes it easy to jump back. Same deal.
tag 3 (private) and 9 (normal) actually
I've used a tiling window manager exclusively since 2009. I'm pretty well convinced there's nothing better.
You don't like dynamic tags? Or you don't know about them, I guess?
>when you want to see different windows you have to
And people who use stacking wm's don't spend an hour each day fiddling with their window sizes, layout, etc?
Which one do you use?
>And people who use stacking wm's don't spend an hour each day fiddling with their window sizes, layout, etc?
No, they really don't. Window overlapping is actually a desirable feature that eliminates the need for obsessive fine-grained control over window layout.
Tiling window managers solve a problem that doesn't exist.
Unironically this. Stacking window managers feel more "free-form" and are more versatile. "Dynamic" approaches such as dwm are just attempts to work around the rigidity of the tiling paradigm by shuffling windows around in an arbitrary pattern, and it still doesn't work as good as floating windows.
Nothing wrong with tiling.
I use fancywm and never turn it off.
But yeah i3 and dwm is autistic cause it uses up the whole screen.
Only if you use meme layouts.
They always were a meme
Tiling window managers are only good for three things: reddit screenshots, IRC, and fullscreen terminals
I don't care. Works for me.
Same. Everybody has different needs. If tiling suddenly becomes extremely IQfy disapproved then I will still be tiling because I don't give a frick about what you troony weebs think is trendy.
If you install awesomewm, you need to spend hours customizing it because it doesn't come with sensible defaults.
It also doesn't work with cinnamon on linux mint.
So yes, a meme for autists, never designed to become popular or be useful.
>got filtered by a shallow learning curve
Kind of pathetic, to be honest
>filtered
I have better things to do than ricing my computer.
Sounds like a distro problem
hmm idk, i like tiling. it does what it needs to do and that's it, and I don't have to worry about troony devs removing features or changing things on me like the gnomegays. the thing you gotta realize is that the meme layouts are only for reddit screenshots. i just use the master/stack layout, with 3 windows at a time at most, but usually just with 1. it's very comfy
>if you uninstall all the features yourself and only use a meme minimalist WM then you don't have to worry about devs removing features
IQfy never changes
Tiling is autistic as frick sure, but hey your computer right? You continue to not give a shit about my cinnamon desktop and ill continue to not give a shit about your tiling
I've always kinda dreamed of a good tiling window manager for windows. Winsplit revolution kind did it, powertoys kinda does it.
I dunno, it doesn't necessarily have to be pure autism to want an organized desktop no? I mean you can go too far.. sometimes you really just need a window to be highest in the Z index but sometimes it's nice in at least in embedded.
Some workflow I used to have:
40" 4k monitor,
teraterm connected to a UART to USB bottom middle pane, IDE connected to target to step center focus pane, conemu running connected to server to wait and see if ECU connects and sends records over IP in top pane. Toggling in notepad++/vs code over the idea focus pane. Maybe a browser floating around with task list or just browsin'. Maybe it's just autism but sometimes when I'm flipping through a bunch of open applications I lose my flow state.
Fancywm
Oh I forgot I'd put pidgin in one area top left or top right focus area. Maybe music player somewhere tho I don't mind just keeping that minimized and floating it.
Tags are such a neat idea, it's too bad all the window managers that support them are autistic tiling bullshit. Awesome supports floating windows but it's the most autistic of them all, you have to rice every fricking little thing if you don't want a fugly ass desktop.
I tried installing a theme for awesonewm but it was semi frozen because the lua libraries were out of date or something.
I just turned off window decorations and run xfce4-panel on top of it. Control the theme/icons with lxappearance.
They're a meme if you use a mouse. However perfect for laptops and touchpads.
this, I tried DWM with custom binds on a laptop and loved it but I prefer the floating window experience on desktop when I have a mouse.
This. I use XFCE on desktop and bspwm on my laptop
>However perfect for laptops and touchpads.
Why?
Kinda funny that twm users keep posting that pic, since it shows the biggest problem with twms.
Look at xclock. It's supposed to be round, but isn't, because twms don't take into consideration that graphical programs usually have a optimal size range and optimal aspect ration to be used in. Programs can set those using size hints to the wm, but twms have to ignore them.
Twm only really work well with text based programs, and even then only to an extent. And as soon as a more complex pseudo-gui (like mc) is involved the things I said about regular guis apply.
dwm doesn't ignore size hints by default. You can see this if you use mpv. The mpv window wont fill its entire area if that breaks the aspect ratio that mpv prefers for the video.
>twm
What does it have to do with the discussion?
reminder: floating windows in a tiling wm works better than tiling windows in a floating wm.
Why are you saying things that you yourself know to be false?
How is that false? Most floating window managers are so bad they don't even have keybindings for basic operations.
>Most floating window managers are so bad they don't even have keybindings for basic operations.
Have you been using tiling wms only for your entire life or are you just trolling?
I don't see any keybindings for manipulating floating windows in any way whatsoever in that screenshot.
Windows Snap is all I need.
fricking hate windows snap on multi monitor because the mouse cursor gets stuck at the edge of the screen when moving a window from one display to another with the mouse.
Turn off Sticky Mouse moron.
>His WM doesnt switch from tiling to floating with one button
The psychometric profile of tiling WM users is OCD and Asperger's.
Tiling is the best default for most of my use cases. Occasionally it's better to have the window float, most tile managers have support for floating a window with a single keybind, so for me it makes the most sense to use a tilling wm and float windows when necessary.
>still treating your desktop like a fullscreen-only app so hard that even when you want to see different windows you have to fricking tile them like old DOS programs that awkwardly split their elements
Tiling is shit for idiots.
it's the meme I can't stop falling for
I just use i3 with tabs. Simple and just werks
Tiling WM users likely will have sex for the first time at 30-40.
my girlfriend thinks my autistic obsession with my setup is cute :3
Your "girlfriend" is male.
no
maximised/alt-tab masterrace
There should be one tile per processor core. Each tile should just contain a command prompt. Running a command in that tile should run it on the corresponding core.
I can't really understand why you would tile otherwise.
If it is, then it's a meme I don't regret falling for.
So when I used a floating wm i always found myself dragging stuff into tiles anyway is why I used it and it's fine for me
Nothing is a meme if it works for you but if it's not what you need then there's very little point in using it because it's trendy or whatever
You could also use something like a Kwin extension that allows tiling if you want something in between or to have options
DE is better cope
It's fricking great and I wouldn't want to be w/o it. The stuff I work on basically involves having a shitton of terminals open and tiling is the best way to deal with that.