>The rocket is a metaphor for death through technological means
the rocket is also industrial civilization, as it runs on a limited supply of fossil fuels, reaches brenschluss, and then collapses back to earth (only winter certainties)
blicero represents the senselessness of nazi violence, in the end he is absorbed into western/american state which harnesses that violence into extracting profit
>The rocket is a metaphor for death through technological means
the rocket is also industrial civilization, as it runs on a limited supply of fossil fuels, reaches brenschluss, and then collapses back to earth (only winter certainties)
Pynchon took LSD while writing this book and most of the chatracters are just running around chasing their tails while being paranoid about other people pushing their buttons. It's all shit, enjoy the octopus and orangutan scenes.
blicero represents the senselessness of nazi violence, in the end he is absorbed into western/american state which harnesses that violence into extracting profit
It was a (gay) ritual, basically killing a pure, innocent boy (pre-industrial civilization) with THE biggest and most sophisticated phallus at the end of the biggest conflict in human history (full of rockets (more phalli)) thus ushering a new (and gayer) age. Basically how technology and the bureaucratic systems of control destroyed everything human and created a world of machines and profit extraction. Even the architect of the ritual ends up papercliped to America to serve this new age.
Well, it’s a magic ritual so he’s not really trying to “achieve” anything from a materialist perspective. You have to understand it in the context of the rest of the book as a formal marker for the victory of the new age over the old. Additionally, you have to understand it in the context of its opposition to the counterforce: Blicero fires his rocket north which is the zone of death for the Africans. The Africans want to fire the 00000 to the south: the zone of birth. It’s a metaphysical struggle for the zeitgeist. Blicero has to sacrifice Gottfried (and the sacrifice is necessary as most magical systems acknowledge a kind of equivalent exchange program) in order to achieve his ultimate goal of having the zeitgeist reflect his will. He is essentially trying to cast a spell over western civilization to chain it to the death drive (Thanatos). Alternatively, the counterforce has to sacrifice their existence (the clan suicide of the Africans, the disappearance of Slothrop from the narrative) in order to be able to shoot the 00000 to the south to do the same but chaining the west to the life drive. We can assume that both of them achieve this goal as we still have dissenters to popular thing in current day. The reason that the 00000 is never fired in the story is that it has to be omitted as the sacrifice for its own very firing. In that way, as well as the poem at the end, Pynchon is extending the blank space of the narrative all the way to the present to forcefully include the reader in the project of the book (I.e. will you serve death or serve life?) He doesn’t allow for a reader to read GR but only participants in GR’s project.
>Alternatively, the counterforce has to sacrifice their existence (the clan suicide of the Africans, the disappearance of Slothrop from the narrative) in order to be able to shoot the 00000 to the south to do the same but chaining the west to the life drive.
Mere Blacklatry is the best you could come up with, eh Pynch? How very American of you.
Sorry to hijack, but how important is it to read Pynch-man in release order? Is there a huge tickle when characters from V. are mentioned or appear in GR?
Sorry to hijack, but how important is it to read Pynch-man in release order? Is there a huge tickle when characters from V. are mentioned or appear in GR?
>tickle
none at all but read them in order (it's ok to switch 49 and V. though)
The rocket is a metaphor for death through technological means
>The rocket is a metaphor for death through technological means
the rocket is also industrial civilization, as it runs on a limited supply of fossil fuels, reaches brenschluss, and then collapses back to earth (only winter certainties)
filtered
alright, chud, how about you enlighten us
I really need to finish this
Ur probably too young to understand that you really don't.
Never be afraid to bin shit books. Life's too short and there's better stuff out there, hope this helps!
No I enjoyed it but I stopped reading it some 2/3 of the way because exams started
And then I got lazy learning again who was who.
Just start over
Not much better than gravities rainbow m'afraid...
>Ur
We've got a true literary conoisseur here, lads.
sez u
No, you don't.
kek feel you anon, mine's got 3 years worth of strands of hair for bookmarks.
Gotta finish it fuggin a.
Pynchon took LSD while writing this book and most of the chatracters are just running around chasing their tails while being paranoid about other people pushing their buttons. It's all shit, enjoy the octopus and orangutan scenes.
blicero represents the senselessness of nazi violence, in the end he is absorbed into western/american state which harnesses that violence into extracting profit
It was a (gay) ritual, basically killing a pure, innocent boy (pre-industrial civilization) with THE biggest and most sophisticated phallus at the end of the biggest conflict in human history (full of rockets (more phalli)) thus ushering a new (and gayer) age. Basically how technology and the bureaucratic systems of control destroyed everything human and created a world of machines and profit extraction. Even the architect of the ritual ends up papercliped to America to serve this new age.
He had to save the game that you just lost
Well, it’s a magic ritual so he’s not really trying to “achieve” anything from a materialist perspective. You have to understand it in the context of the rest of the book as a formal marker for the victory of the new age over the old. Additionally, you have to understand it in the context of its opposition to the counterforce: Blicero fires his rocket north which is the zone of death for the Africans. The Africans want to fire the 00000 to the south: the zone of birth. It’s a metaphysical struggle for the zeitgeist. Blicero has to sacrifice Gottfried (and the sacrifice is necessary as most magical systems acknowledge a kind of equivalent exchange program) in order to achieve his ultimate goal of having the zeitgeist reflect his will. He is essentially trying to cast a spell over western civilization to chain it to the death drive (Thanatos). Alternatively, the counterforce has to sacrifice their existence (the clan suicide of the Africans, the disappearance of Slothrop from the narrative) in order to be able to shoot the 00000 to the south to do the same but chaining the west to the life drive. We can assume that both of them achieve this goal as we still have dissenters to popular thing in current day. The reason that the 00000 is never fired in the story is that it has to be omitted as the sacrifice for its own very firing. In that way, as well as the poem at the end, Pynchon is extending the blank space of the narrative all the way to the present to forcefully include the reader in the project of the book (I.e. will you serve death or serve life?) He doesn’t allow for a reader to read GR but only participants in GR’s project.
Damn…
>Alternatively, the counterforce has to sacrifice their existence (the clan suicide of the Africans, the disappearance of Slothrop from the narrative) in order to be able to shoot the 00000 to the south to do the same but chaining the west to the life drive.
Mere Blacklatry is the best you could come up with, eh Pynch? How very American of you.
I'm sorry the author hurt your feelings by putting black people in the book. You really should try sharing your own opinions about the book.
Sorry to hijack, but how important is it to read Pynch-man in release order? Is there a huge tickle when characters from V. are mentioned or appear in GR?
you're supposed to read them in chronological order of when they take place
lol
>tickle
none at all but read them in order (it's ok to switch 49 and V. though)
he was trying to gravity the rainbow