Why does IQfy hate them? Sure they might not produce the most accurate stereo imaging, but sound from movies is more than just stereo. Most soundbars come with both a sub and a centre channel these days, which add a lot more to the listening experience of a movie or show than a 2.0 speaker setup.
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i actually use a soundbar under my monitor as my pc speaker, last time i checked the pc speaker industry basically vanished
soundbars used to be pretty bad before they got a ton of DSP packed in them. People don't often update their beliefs after they solidify even if the underlying reality changes. It's not the highest end solution and they emphasize form factor and convenience over raw performance which are things IQfy users tend to dislike. Guys on here have enough knowledge and interest to piece together a real surround setup if they want to.
Whats DSP?
What sound bar do you recommend? Im looking at the soundbar and subwoofer bundle that is offered with the S95D
Digital Signal Processing
>samsung
be careful that the product currently does what it says on the box. samsung have shipped a soundbar in the past where indicated features were actually in a software update delivered over a year later.
Give me an example
Klipsch, Sony, Yamaha. If not then Samsung/LG.
They're the audio equivalent of buying a 60Hz TN panel after 2011.
modern TN panels are fine
I have a 144hz TN monitor that looks better than my IPS monitors
Only audiophiles hate them, but then again they hate anything sensible. A $100 soundbar on top of your TV gives you 99% of what you need out of an audio system and that kills the audiophile inside.
Clear speech, clean crisp music, weak bass (this is a plus), and great response times on anything newer than 2015 soundbars. Sure you can beat them by spunking $20k on a 7.1 home theatre setup, but not even by that much, and if you bought that set up a decade ago then the $100 soundbar of today will be better.
>weak bass (this is a plus)
Not for music. And then, 2.1 speaker kits usually have a knob to adjust bass separately.
They are not good deals for your money, most of the time. If you get one really cheap at a pawn shop, knock yourself out.
What they offer is a convenient form factor, nothing more.
I have a pair of old passive speakers + vintage Sony integrated amp that together kill any soundbar $500 and under new. I spent only ~$65 on this setup years ago (cost even includes the speaker wiring). But when I want greater fidelity, I use a Sennheiser HD650 + Audio-gd Reference 10.32. My speaker rig is really just hooked up to my TV at all times. I could use my speaker rig with my computer, but I'm just too lazy.
A pair of Yamaha HS5 speakers or Adam T7Vs kill my speaker rig very noticeably. They also kill all soundbars thoroughly, though fancier models will have a mild advantage in subbass due to their separate bass subwoofers.
Soundbars are a convenience, not a great deal, my dear coping poorgay.
>They are not good deals for your money, most of the time. If you get one really cheap at a pawn shop, knock yourself out.
>What they offer is a convenient form factor, nothing more.
Not an argument, moron.
It is.
Cope, seethe more, and dilate hard, turbo-homosexual.
You are an utterly worthless moron with no idea what you're talking about.
morons don't know about phantom center channels and think you need Dolby/DTS logos for a stereo setup.
>morons don't know about phantom center channels
Are you implying phantom centres are a good thing?
Phantom center is honestly preferable over a regular toppled MTM center. The point of a center channel is to get consistent sound across large seating areas. Bad horizontal directivity defeats that and the value is debatable in the first place if your seating is one couch. I'd say a center is worthwhile if you already have a subwoofer and surrounds but not otherwise and never a toppled MTM.
No the point of a centre channel is having a sound source that delivers clear dialogue.
Low IQ post
Idiot.
they typically have only one hdmi input, so unless you buy a receiver (or hdmi splitter), you have to upgrade your tv to get the full benefits of whatever new standard your new soundbar supports.
relying solely on hdmi connectivity for sound and control isn't great either.
I got one for cheap and use it as pc speakers. It does the job and sound decent.
Even cheap 5.1 setups will sound better than any soundbar, of course some soundbars come with rear speakers too.
>Even cheap 5.1 setups will sound better than any soundbar
Wrong. It depends on the room and setup.
But they do, and of course, with the speakers proper installed.
Actual surround sound > fake surround sound from soundbars
no tard, your shitty logitech speakers will sound like shit if your display is right next to a wall.
this just gives me very.. early 2000s vibes, why don't they update the design?
That's just the model I have, this is nowadays design.
>pic not related
Honestly, these things paired with a good DSP can actually be pretty decent. Maybe a external DSP isn't even needed if you are using a PC with 5.1 audio outputs (most high end motherboards)
Even low-end mobos can just use line-in and mic for 5.1 sound setups
Why not just get regular speakers?
Because not all setups lend themselves well to stereo speakers.
If you're only using stereo speakers, you have no centre channel. Having a dedicated centre is much better than a phantom centre.
Single point of failure, even a cheapo 2.1 speaker setup will do you better. And for frick's sake don't buy JBL.
is there any chink 2.1 with dsp for around 20$
>for around 20$
I did look, but they seem to be around 35.
I love em. Got mine a few weeks ago for my TV. Waayyy better audio than from the TV itself, which wasn't that bad to begin with.
They prioritise form over function so it's not for people who care about performance
And it's going to sound good enough for people who don't know better