Spanish people:
>Well, I admit that much of Northern Spain is dotted with Celtic oppida akin to the ones found in Ireland and France. Also, people in Spanish autonomous community of Galicia play bagpipes, just like Scottish people do.
Also Spanish people:
>Ackshually, my ancestors looked more like Julius Caesar than Vercingetorix and Queen Boudica because uhhhhhhhhh they just fricking did. Stop asking questions and accept The Established Narrative (TM).
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Really stupid argument, especially the one about bagpipes which are spread all over yurop
*sees map of maximum extent of the Celtic peoples in ancient times*
Well, I wonder why....
*sees map of extent of Germanic peoples in ancient times *
*notices the word for bagpipes in all Romance languages is not Celtic*
I don’t wonder
>English: bagpipe
>German: Sackpfeife
>Dutch: Doedelzak
>Swedish: Säckpipa
>Norwegian: Sekkepipe
Romance languages
>Catalan: Cornamusa
>French: Cornemuse
>Italian: Cornamusa
>Romanian: Cimpoi
>Spanish: Gaita
It looks like all of the Germanic languages have a word with a similar meaning to "bagpipe", and that most Romance languages have a word similar to "cornamusa", with Spanish and Romanians being the odd ones out.
Several Slavic languages, like Slovak and Serbian, have the word "gajde/gaida", or a variant thereof, which is superficially similar to the Spanish word "gaita".
The undisputed first appearance of bagpipes does not come from Germanic countries, however, since the first known depiction of bagpipes comes from a Medieval Galician-Portuguese language source found in the kingdom of Castile. In pre-industrial times, the popularity of bagpipes seems to have been limited to Western European countries like Spain, Scotland, Ireland, and the western half of the Holy Roman Empire.
The fact that Central European languages like Czech and Magyar have a word for "bagpipe" similar to the Dutch word "Doedelzak" (cf the German word "Dudelsack"), "dudy" and "dude", respectively, may point to a possible expansion of bagpipes through Germanic-speaking countries over to Central and Eastern Europe.
On one hand, it is known that Western and Central Europe were inhabited by Celtic people till Germanic people came down from Scandinavia around the second century BCE, and that Slavic and Finno-Ugric speaking people were not present in Central Europe until well after the fall of the Roman Empire, the collapse of the Hunnic Khagante, and the destruction of the Ostrogothic Kingdom. On the other hand, it may be possible that bagpipes were actually passed from east to west, but known historical, textual and archaeological evidence does not seem to support this conclusion.
Therefore, the identification of bagpipes with Celtic peoples might be equivocal but not totally wrong.
>Therefore, the identification of bagpipes with Celtic peoples might be equivocal but not totally wrong.
yet another iteration of moronic autism, plenty of words for bagpipes come from greek
Galicians can be very swarthy and blondes and ginger are rare.
The oldest depiction of a bagpipe is from Spain btw
No.
Celt weren't an uniform group and Italics were similar to celts
Idk what youre trying to say here
Yes, Murcia is pure celtic territory
We wuzz Vercingetorix n shiet
Murcians are either gypsies either Catalans/Castillans mutts. Pure Ibero-Tyrrhenians, nothing to do with some gauloid
>Ibero-Tyrrhenians
Meds. This language group DOES NOT and WILL NEVER be confirmed to exist by mainstream linguistics.
Some say Germanics were more similar to Celts. Others say Italics were similar to Celts. Either way, they were not one and the same group.
bump
It doesnt matter if there is linguistic similarities or not, the ressemblance between the 2 groups is confirmed by genetics
Genetics, schmenetics. People don't use sequences of ACTG to compose poetry, deliver speeches, or make music.
So Jamaican and Anglos are part of the same group?
Haitian and French?
Romanian and Walloons?
I mean, London DOES have a lot of Afro-Caribbean people, and Paris DOES have a lot of people of West African descent. I've never been to Belgium, so no idea, but idk, I guess they must be Celtic-Congolese or something.
Thx for proving me right
You can also find Dominicans and Moroccans in Madrid, but that doesn't mean Spain is a nigg-slim country.
That's what I was saying
Genetics is more important than language
A French Basque who doesnt speak a word of Spanish is still far more related to anyone in Spain than a Colombian is
You can also find Colombian people of pure Spanish descent, or Colombian people of mixed Spanish and French descent, but that doesn't make them any less Colombian. Your king is also of foreign descent, considering he's got two parents born outside of Spain and belongs to a French dynasty that gave its name to a type of whiskey from America.
99% of Colombians arent li like that stop cherry picking
Also the king is a meaningless example because all of europe monarchy is heavily mixed between each other, they're literally the biggest euromutts out there at least his daughter and succesor is >50%+ Spanish
Spain peaked 500 years ago, after the expulsions of the Moors and the israelites.
Ancient Spain has the same value of Ancient France or Ancient England, 0.
Ancient Spain was more advanced than Gaul who was more advanced than Britain and all three have interest to some degree
Nobody cares about Tartessos, other than them the biggest shit that happened there was the Punic Wars
>Nobody cares about Tartessos
It got an Anime about it. Can ancient France and Britain boast that much? Thought so
Oh, shit, you are actually right:
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nadia:_The_Secret_of_Blue_Water_characters
>Origin: Tartessos, forgotten city between Europe and Africa now Andalucía Iberia Spain.
Lol.
No celt anime, but a fricking tartessos anime.
Lol.
Directed by Hideaki Anno (Evangelion) no less.
Wow.
I have to watch Nadia now.
I didn't know about the setting.
It's pretty much a (very) free adaptation of Jules Verne novel and Tartessos is pretty much a stand-in for Atlantis so don't expect much but considering how little we know about Tartessos (and even less in the ealy 90s, in Japan of all places) it's a nice addition
By Verne novel I mean 20000 leagues under the sea
Nadia looks like wewuzzing nonsense for some reasons. The atlantians lived in the congo and Nadia's original design looked like an african girl.
Nadia and her father look like indians though and Jules Verne for some reason made Captain Nemo into an indian prince in a later book. He originally wanted to make him polish and angry at the russians but didn't do this because of good diplomatic relationships between Russia and France at that time.
>It got an Anime about it. Can ancient France and Britain boast that much? Thought so
The only manga/anime worth watching
Astérix et Obélix
Spain peaked 1000 years ago with biggest Muslim and israeli population
theres no such thing as "Celtic"
je suis monstrositié celtique
No one gives a shit about their ancestors going that far back except for autistic racists on vietnamese basket weaving forums.
iberia was ibere'd, phoenician'd, greek'd, celt'd, lustianian'd and roman'd
all in different intensities, territories, etc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartessos
who the frick were these guys?
Same as basques and iberians; unknown. Tartessos might be related to them, or not at all.
Taryessians are genetically close to Basques and so are others IA Iberians
Northern Spain was culturally Celtic but not genetically. Its like Italians larping as Romans.