Is there literally no reason for someone to buy a sata SSD in 2024. If you want high speed just get an NVMe drive. If you want high capacity then HDDs offer much higher GB/$.
Inb4 people with buyers remorse try defending their moronic coomsooomer purchase.
well what else am I gonna saturate my SATA ports with
I have 6 SATA ports but only 2 M.2 NVMe ports. SATA is good for non-OS drives.
second post best post. what's with people thinking that just because something is depreciated that it's no longer useful?
wtf says they were depricated in the first place?
God
how easy can i hotswap these between a pc and a laptop? thinking of getting a sata ssd for my steam library my case has two easy access bays and sata to usb adaptors are cheap
Youre asking how easy it is to unplug and replug a usb?!
a usb what?
USB charger for his battery powered dragon dildo
lol yeah... my wording could have been better: asking about wear and tear for constant transfers. if it isn't an issue doesn't this make sata ssd the hotswap choice of the three? really nice if i'm editing videos on pc then move to laptop when i'm on the move without too much hassle.
>If you want high speed just get an NVMe drive
>no heatsink
Dumb fricking moron. Even the slimmest fricking heatsink will do.
nvme doesn't need a heatsink, but you can use one. it literally doesn't matter. do you seriously care what other people do? LOL big mad
My board only has two NVMe slots. But yeah, sata SSD prices need to go down hard.
>HDDs offer much higher GB/$
And are far more expensive to run while ruining everything with their noise. HDDs aren't even worth it if you get them for free beyond some cold backup external drive you rarely touch.
>And are far more expensive to run while ruining everything with their noise.
Why are people's perception of HDDs from the 90s?
Keeps HDDs cheap atleast
>almost 6W
No info about noise but it's probably horrible at 7200rpm too.
I think it highly depends on the quality of the PC case you're using. A 7200rpm drive on my old PC with a cheapo Chinese case sounds like an old washing machine.
6w is literally nothing
You better show the receipt for that titanium power supply is you care about wattage
Also noise is dependent on case. I have an hdd hotswap cage and I can't tell it's on
SATA is still useful for upgrading older machines, and the edge case of running out of NVME/PCIE slots.
1 NVMe drive for Windows, 1 NVMe drive for Linux, SATA drives for storage, backup and games.
What about lanes? The only reason to use windows is to play video games, so, that will mean use of a GPU which takes up 16 lakes, at least. The other lanes go to the m.2 which one will be operating at a deficit. Unless you got a threadripper build which I would say, hats off to you
You misunderstand how PCIe lanes work
They aren't a shared pool that gets allocated based on what you put in.
For the most part they are statically assigned to a slot. There are some exceptions with Intel boards and pcie gen 5 M.2 slots but for the most part pcie lanes are fixed to a slot.
Filling up your M.2 and sata ports more than likely aren't going to magically take away lanes from your GPUs, again unless you have an Intel board with a pcie gen 5 M.2 slot
If your confused as to how a board can have 3-4 M.2 slots and a 16x GPU slot when the cpu only has 24 lanes it's because the chipset takes 4 lanes and acts like a hub or a mux to allow you to attach more pcie lanes than the CPU otherwise has
Depends on the board, there’s a few boards that will downgrade the x16 slot intended for the GPU to x8 if you put in an SSD. It definitely happened a lot when NVMe was new. Others disable SATA ports if you plug an SSD into the second m.2 slot, presumably because they’re running it as SATA and not NVMe. This has probably become less common as CPUs have gotten more PCIe lanes.
That's some old info. Sure maybe when NVME was new that splitting happened. But nowadays that only happens if you buy a LGA 1700 board that supports PCIE gen 5 drives. Because there is not a single one LGA 1700 board whose chipset supports PCIE gen 5. And the CPU's of those things support 16 pcie gen 5 lanes and 4 pcie gen 4 lanes. Meaning they achieve gen 5 drive compatability by splitting half the GPU lanes.
As for disabling shit. I have a lot of friends with 8-9th gen intel systems who want to upgrade them. And in all their cases their motherboard manual said that they will only disable sata ports if you plug in an M.2 SATA DRIVE not an M.2 NVME DRIVE.
In fact here's all my friends motherboards and which sata ports they will disable.
Friend number 1: Gigabyte B365M DS3H. Will disable sata port 0, if you have an M.2 sata drive in it's only M.2 port. Won't disable anything if you have an NVME drive in that port.
Friend number 2: Asus Prime Z370-P. Will disable sata port 1, if an M.2 sata drive is installed into M.2_1 slot. Won't disable anything if an M.2 Sata drive is installed into the M.2_2 slot. And won't disable anything if NVME drives are installed.
Friend 3: Asrock Z390 Phantom gaming: Will disable sata ports 0 and 1 if an M.2 sata drive is installed to M.2_1 slot. Will disable sata ports 2 and 3 if one is installed to the M.2_2 slot. Will disable sata ports 4-5 if one is installed ot the M.2_3 slot. Won't disable anything if you have NVME drives installed to those slots.
Even my X670E board will disable some lanes on the traditional PCIe slots if I populate all M.2 slots.
Not on the slot intended for a GPU, but it has 3 16X slots and 4 M.2's
PCIe lanes are expensive so it makes sense to share them and allow for different uses so more people can actually utilize them.
Which board
Because something that is also expensive is PCIe switches, which is what allows PCIe lanes to go to different slots, rare to find those on mid-rnage boards
>1 NVMe drive for Windows, 1 NVMe drive for Linux
Honestly kinda based and I should do that
>not using both NVMEs in LVM RAID and running winjeetOS inside of KVM
NGMI
>using VMs in 2024
ngmi
>have 4 NVME slots all filled with 4TB drives
Now what?
>HDDs
too noisy frick you.
Well, yes.
Today you just get a 4+ Tb NVME SSD for everything and a NAS for your media/data/backups/etc., enjoying all the benefits of both worlds and a 10Gb/s data access with copper wires.
>silent
>fast
>expensive
I'd rather have one of these than a giant 15lb spinning brick in a chassis.
idk why people talk about hdds like they are the worse damn thing in existence
how young are you tards?
8TB SSD (QVO) == 630€
It's fricking criminal.
All we want is a drive that outlives spinning metal at a slightly higher price per TB, with higher speeds being a nice to have but not needed per se. And people wonder why we buy error prone hard disk drives, often just to keep data duplicated.
I have a computer dedicated to showcasing the best of 2000s and early 2010s in terms of games. What do you think, it boots off of M2? Of course not. And why would I sacrifice a PCIE port for a disk?
Sata ssds are mostly used for retrofitting servers that had hdds
They won't be going away anytime soon
lol
You're not going to spend a penny putting sata SSDs in ewaste
no me, but boomers will
also core duo age laptops sent to repair are all sent back with sata ssds
that's your usercase
in my house there is not a single nvme portl. also nvme ssds are more expensive and there is not so much perceptible difference
You can tell the difference but tbh at this point we're just spoiled
are your computers all older than 2004? because nvme just uses pci-e, you can attach them to anything with a pci-e port
there good for storage drives. most games run fine off an SSD, you don't need blazing fast balls to the walls NVMe for everything.
thanks but my SSDs just keep werking 🙂
My PC doesn't have NVMe support
my 20 year old laptop doesn't have an NVMe slot.
>just get an NVMe drive
Still an SSD, moron
You don't use all the ports your motherboard has? You paid for all those features, and you're not using them?
Because I got 6 2tb NVME drives. I have even used adapters to fill the PCIE X1 slots on my motherboard. If I want more SSD storage I would need to either replace the 2tb drives with 4tb ones or get sata drives. I think the latter will be fine.
Ok, this post gets to me. Is this really the level of stupidity that the average IQfyner possesses? I want to believe that OP is baiting or an exception to the average intelligence of IQfy users. To translate the post, it reads something like this.
>X thing is slightly lower performance than Y thing
>X thing is also practically different from Y thing and possesses a different use case
>Therefore you are an idiot for ever buying or making use of X thing
?????????????????????????????
It's advocating for the rule vs advocating for the exception. It's kind of like current politics right now
You have some people that believe the thing that satisfies most people is what you should pay attention to versus the people that want more resources put into things that a small minority is going to use or take advantage of.
For tech in particular, as things move on and change there is always those one or two things that an older tech did well that otherwise got set aside in exchange for something else in the new tech
Of course, you get one group that liked what new thing provides and talks about it vs another group that hyperfocus's on that one to two aspects of an old tech that wasn't replicated and therefore advocates old tech should not go away
>advocating
imagine caring this much about literally anything. looooooooooooooser
imagine caring about other people caring. ha, gayyyyyyyyyyyyy
>buy nvme ssd
>it's randomly unsupported by my motherboard due to "pin incompatibility"
>no reason
>except for all the reasons
good thread
>NVMe for OS
>Sata SSD for frequently run programs
>HDD for long-term/backup storage
Get with the program, homosexual
>literally no reason to buy a sata ssd in 2024
my pc's motherboard doesnt have an m.2 slot
also they are great for re-vitalizing older laptops
>mfw SATA m.2 drive is completely unsupported on newer platforms
There's cheap m.2 sata to 2.5 inch sata drive adapters.
>NVMe drive is not SSD
i don't see that in his post
>in his
why do you refer to OP with "his"? you are OP
because there are no girls on the internet
Can confirm. Have two WD blacks for photo and video editing. That shit will burn up adds and nvmes fast at high volumes. Frequently updated programs and games are on a WD blue spinny boi. SSDs and nvmes should only be used for boot drives and program installations.
I don't see how. The volume of data written from photo editing sounds like w/e, video editing likely too unless you're going through terabytes a day with hardware transcoding.
Synology NAS still doesn't support NVMe for data storage, only as cache.
They claim reliability isn't good enough yet.
You're easily going to saturate a 10G NAS anyways, even with HHD's plus SSD cache.
But HDD are annoyingly loud so SATA SSD's would be nicer.
I even moved my NAS to a separate room because of the noise.
If 10+TB SATA SSD's were affordable I would use them instead.
>Interface available on computers since 20 years ago, have comfy adapters for every use case
>no you must le updoot to thing because it has less cables and they've already cutoff pcie slots to make space for it anyway
why would you need 18tb hdd even for
i have 1tb for os, 1tb for games and 1tb for shit like movies and they're all mostly empty
@100309459
genuine moron
>bought all of my drives in the price slump
>everything has gone up 15-20%
feels fricking good.
i use them as external storage
The real problem is that SATA SSD is almost the same price as nvme
I don't like sound and moving parts on my data drives and im not a poorgay
I'm not installing jellyfin on the HDD of my nas. My app SSD cost $5