MacOS is insanely locked down and I dont understand why developers on Hackernews gush over something that has no package manager other than some hacky workaround (homebrew) and forces you to have an apple account to do normal shit. The UI is uber simple and not really made for technical use. You're forced to just use whatever it gives you, and it just wants to hold your hand. Such garbage shit.
The only good thing is the hardware, if I can have linux on a macbook then I have nothing to complain about; I'll buy one.
>MacOS is insanely locked down
how exactly is it more locked down than another OS? >hacky workaround (homebrew) >The UI is uber simple and not really made for technical use
first you contradict yourself: you seem to find installing homebrew "hacky", when it's just pasting one single command line into a terminal
then you call the UI "uber simple", because it has a desktop with icons and top and bottom panel. guess what, so does Windows and the most popular Loonix DE (Gnome / KDE) >You're forced to just use whatever it gives you, and it just wants to hold your hand
what am I "forced" to use exactly? I can literally install any software I want to use
give me one example compared to using Windows or Loonix under Gnome / KDE
Apple silicon is really just ARM chips which is cellphone architecture. They're really just using Apple silicon MacOS as a halfway point to turn every Mac user into an iOS user. In 10 years a MacBook Pro will just be an iPad with a built in keyboard.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Are you moronic?
There are far more iOS users than MacOS users.
what software bothers you so much that you want to uninstall? all built in macos softwares are trivial and can be ignored if you want to.
2 months ago
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I don't have problems deleting Apple's out-of-the-box applications on my Mac.
2 months ago
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>what software bothers you so much
Not the issue. The more options the user is presented with, the longer it takes them to find the one that they want. Having dozens of apps the user doesn't want occupying menus, folders, launchpads and search results is annoying and bad design (assuming the user's interests are the design goal). The reasonable thing is to allow users to remove the software they don't want and choose their own alternatives.
There's also storage considerations: sure I can just buy more since it's relatively inexpensive. But if I already have (and paid for) the built-in storage I should be able to fill it with stuff I need and remove everything else, not have it pre-filled with stuff I can't remove.
The only explanation for this is that they don't have the user's interest in mind. The point is to pressure the user into using their built-in apps by making it difficult or impossible to remove them, making alternatives seem redundant since you're stuck with the built-in ones either way.
Their approach makes it clear to me that my interests are not in mind. It's not in my interest to purchase a product that imposes artificial limits on what I can do with it in order to force me to do things in a way that benefits their bottom line.
2 months ago
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Not to mention that many of the built-in apps are written to a read-only volume, so it's a lie when they advertise 256gb storage or w.e. the same way a ROM cartridge cannot advertise itself as storage. But they mislead the user by presenting it as a single volume.
2 months ago
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>Having dozens of apps the user doesn't want occupying menus, folders, launchpads and search results is annoying and bad design (assuming the user's interests are the design goal). The reasonable thing is to allow users to remove the software they don't want and choose their own alternatives.
so basically the exact same as Windows and Gnome / KDE
Why do I need a useless package manager on macOS? Either Apple provides the updates or Macports or Brew can provide up to date command line tools in /opt.
>MacOS is insanely locked down
It's less locked down than windows home editions
>has no package manager other than some hacky workaround
Every package manager is a workaround
>forces you to have an apple account
You can actually use your mac without ever creating an apple account some apple apps won't work but who even cares?
>The UI is uber simple and not really made for technical use.
It's the same as Gnome basically
>if I can have linux on a macbook then I have nothing to complain about
So then what are you complaining about?
I used to think MacOS was really locked down that they only allow apps to be installed from app store just like how it is on the iPhone, but after having the actual machine I realized that Cmacked or Allmacworlds is a thing and people pirate shit all the time on MacOS and it's really nice on Mac since I won't get cucked by these final cut pro or adobe software prices on mac
it is locked down. you're just a dumb Apple drone.
They already started rolling out signed "entitlements" to do things like edit the firewall on gayOS. syscalls being locked behind code signing is in fact, locking down the OS no matter how hard you claim otherwise, cuck.
Only time I don't like MacPorts is when the new version of macOS arrives & MacPorts needs an update. That update means a rebuild of all MacPorts will be soon.
>The only good thing is the hardware, if I can have linux on a macbook then I have nothing to complain about; I'll buy one.
no you don't.
I had an 11,1 and came to the same conclusions you did, but running Linux on it wasn't worth it. nonfree radio made it a nightmare to keep the kernel up to date and the firmware wouldn't respond to ACPI requests correctly at times because it's shit.
>Try to run llama2-70b >RTX 4090 only has 24GB of vram >Would need to get an RTX A6000 instead >Macbook BRO 128GB runs it without issues (up to 96GB for GPU)
Turns out Macbook pro are really good for LLMs research
For researching purposes it is great, for production you will need Nvidia. Considering you won't only need a single card but several on a single server.
2 months ago
Anonymous
you seem to know what you're talking about. let's say I have a solid $10k to spend on a server entirely focused on hosting LLMs. What particular set up of hardware (specific models you'd pick from nvidia) would be best suited for it?
2 months ago
Anonymous
You can get official server recommendations by Nvidia on whatever use case you need
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/data-center/data-center-gpus/tesla-qualified-servers-catalog/
Here's a general use case description with their data center models.
https://images.nvidia.com/content/pdf/gpu-accelerated-server-platforms.pdf
>>Try to run llama2-70b
Is this something you have actually done?
Is there a reason you would actually choose this over a smaller model if you're not going to run it for performance?
More like $1500, and build quality is so good my macbook pro from 2013 is still usable.
On the other hand Windows has become unusable lately. Even i5-1335u struggles and I constantly see those little blue circle mouse pointers.
Without lies, mac hater dies.
Why the frick I would use decade old machine. If the battery did not fricked up until now, the screen must be burning eyes out. Its just a tool, 5 years top and you throw it on ebay.
I saw I’m ready for them to release the M3 Max Studio. I don’t want a passively cooled gaybook. I want something that will ramp the fans up hard when I go hard on all cores. I want to hear it scream like an Formula 1 car on the straights
>Brainlets still don't understand the advantage of m-series chips and ARM lies in the tradeoff of power consumption and performance i.e. efficiency, not raw power
The absolute state of this board
>brainlet doesn't understand that their phone like design leads to miniscule out of core consumption and the actual core efficiency is not better than contemporary x86
Quit deluding yourself, when M1 came out, it set the standard for notebook performance.
2 months ago
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Yes and a few years later everyone else crushed them by their own standards
2 months ago
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>everyone else crushed them by their own standards
Citation needed
>Apple Silicon is adequate if you're just a normie!
case in point
I'm a dev who does very memory heavy and CPU intensive stuff (not ML, in that case ofc a proper tower would be required), and the silicon chips are a godsend. Until you've tried them you won't understand how much better the development experience is compared to other laptops. Everything is fast, the laptop stays cool and quiet, literal magic.
2 months ago
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Can you tolerate the OS? When I tried it on a Hackintosh there were a number of things that pissed me off.
2 months ago
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>Can you tolerate the OS?
It has some annoying quirks yes, but it's superbly optimized for laptops. And those that annoy you too much you usually can find an app that fixes it >When I tried it on a Hackintosh there were a number of things that pissed me off.
Like what? Depending on the issue it might be due to hackintosh and not Mac os itself.
2 months ago
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>Like what?
It was a while ago, but the most glaring one that I still remember was having to first give focus to a window before being able to interact with it, like pausing a video playing in a browser window.
2 months ago
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>It was a while ago, but the most glaring one that I still remember was having to first give focus to a window before being able to interact with it, like pausing a video playing in a browser window.
Yeah okay fair enough that gets annoying at first. You either internalize it and just instinctively double click or you get a program that fixes the issue.
But as I said, MacOS is mostly superior for laptops, where you rarely have two windows side by side. So most users just switch between window focuses with a single motion of the hand (swipe up with three fingers, hover above window of choice and swipe down again with three fingers). It's about as fast as alt tabbing quickly and usually faster if you have a lot of windows.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Hackintosh? homie, please. There's your problems with macOS.
2 months ago
Anonymous
In what way does that limit me in trying out the OS and seeing how it functions? Do you do things with computers btw?
2 months ago
Anonymous
I've been working with this shit since the late 1970s. And you?
I've setup my own Hackintosh, on Ryzen. Nice experiment, but if things don't work on the Hackintosh, that's my problem, not Apple's.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>if things don't work on the Hackintosh,
Yes but I'm sure window management works, I'm sure the settings application works and several other things, all things I can have an opinion on due to having used them through a Hackintosh.
>It was a while ago, but the most glaring one that I still remember was having to first give focus to a window before being able to interact with it, like pausing a video playing in a browser window.
Yeah okay fair enough that gets annoying at first. You either internalize it and just instinctively double click or you get a program that fixes the issue.
But as I said, MacOS is mostly superior for laptops, where you rarely have two windows side by side. So most users just switch between window focuses with a single motion of the hand (swipe up with three fingers, hover above window of choice and swipe down again with three fingers). It's about as fast as alt tabbing quickly and usually faster if you have a lot of windows.
>You either internalize it and just instinctively double click or you get a program that fixes the issue.
Yeah I supposed, though I don't think there is a program for this specific thing.
2 months ago
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>though I don't think there is a program for this specific thing.
There is a program for every thing that annoys users anon
brew install koekeishiya/formulae/yabai
brew services start yabai
yabai -m config focus_follows_mouse autofocus
2 months ago
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>focus_follows_mouse
This is a horrible fix tbh.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Why? It's literally what windows does kek
2 months ago
Anonymous
No it's not, windows doesn't give focus to a window simply by moving the mouse over it, you can interact with it directly which then immediately gives it focus. It's not the same.
MacOS has that top menu bar, imagine having two windows stacked vertically, when you're using the bottom one and you want to interact with its menu bar, you would have to move the mouse around the top window to avoid giving it focus and thereby switching the menu bar to that app.
2 months ago
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>windows doesn't give focus to a window simply by moving the mouse over it
nta but windows itself gives you the option to do it
2 months ago
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I didn't know that option was there, but that's also quite besides the point.
2 months ago
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I'd bet there are applications that will correct any window management issues you run into.
For normies, out of the box window management is fine.
2 months ago
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>I'd bet there are applications that will correct any window management issues you run into.
If there was I would have found it. But yeah I guess you can get used to it.
> trade off
that's right. you get no performance but great battery time. wow. that's great if you only plan to use safari and login to facebook all day.
Does Threadripper run macOS?
quite a few people setup QEMU with video passthrough and can use macos (including ARM versions) running at a very acceptable speeds all day long. cost: $0
>Apple Silicon
Are people still getting roped in to this scam? Apple Silicon might work if all you do is check your email, but anyone doing REAL computing is going to use an x86_64 chip (either Intel or an AMD Threadripper) and an Nvidia GPU (2060 and up).
I wasn't talking about myself. Personally, I have 2xA6000s, 3x3090s and 1x4090. But I wanted to be "reasonable" since I assume people moronic enough to buy apple products are gonna scream and shout about having to buy an actual computer after they thought they were getting the top of the line and are now realizing that no program not specifically made for apple silicon will work on it.
> REAL computing
A pseudo argumentative trick to classify in real/true and false based on no quantitive messure.
So every example against you can be claimed as „not valid/ non real computing“, while your point remains true based on your „definition“ on „real“
Real computing examples:
1. Anything Artificial Intelligence
2. Writing and Running your own Simulations
3. Running any program compiled before 2021.
etc...
These things are literally the only things you need a computer for. The only thing Apple Silicon does is let you check your facebook, which you shouldn't be doing anyway since to socialize you should literally just walk outside.
2 months ago
Anonymous
i can do that on a 200$ android phone. frick you
2 months ago
Anonymous
>i can do that on a 200$ android phone. frick you
Indeed, that's why paying 3000 dollars for "Apple Silicon" makes no sense.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Visit Lenovo. Take a look at pricing for the new X1, Gen 12 laptop.
2 months ago
Anonymous
just did, holy lmao. to be fair Thinkpads are just troony toys nowadays, their probably just capitalizing on femboy disposable income
2 months ago
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god I need a femboy so badly (as a straight man)
2 months ago
Anonymous
Prices will drop by July.
Intel has found a new showplace vendor in Lenovo.
2 months ago
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I have a Lenovo with i5-1335u, Windows absolutely kills it, everything is so slow and bloated. But alas I need it for some obscure Windows only software.
Anybody who does these, prefers to write code on macbooks because it's just a more pleasant experience overall (I write highly specialized computational optimization software for transportation & logistics)
2 months ago
Anonymous
if you ever want to do anything real you're gonna have to pay for cloud computing to keep working from your macbook. so now you've paid 1 time for the macbook, 1 time for the cloud compute, and after all that cash you still don't have any useful hardware. what a shame
2 months ago
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What cloud computin' do I need to pay for? I'm working on my MacBook Pro & don't want to be locked out.
Don’t get me wrong, I love the idea of an SoC, very cool concept, especially for mobile devices. But in desktops and Apple being the one to “normalize” it, frick off.
What do these different tiers of chips provide, exactly?
The M-series as a whole is touted as a MASSIVE uptick in performance over the x86 solutions of the past so you're already playing with power even using the "base" model.
Add to that MacBook Pros no longer have dedicated graphics so these "Pro" and "Max" chips have to be doing all the graphical lifting on their own. Like...what is the competitive advantage and why should you buy into a higher performance tier with these M-series chips?
But that doesn't speak to single core differentiation between tiers. More cores means scalable workloads can get done faster (like video encoding) but as far as raw computing performance it sounds like you're still getting the same function.
Seems to me like they just shrunk the audience for MBPs. People used to buy them because they wanted a better computer, not necessarily because they needed something with a specific workload in mind. Now those people can probably feel at home with a regular MacBook (certainly applies to me since I'm not looking for specific workloads, just quality computers that make my day smooth).
I'll be buying a macbook pro next generation. Went to the apple store the other week, screen's amazing, typing's phenomenal, I can't be without one. I will take it as my wife.
seriously tho why dont other manufacturers make laptop with same thin quiet design as apple and retina displays?
literally why?
everything other than macbook is bulkier, hotter and louder
Pretty sure Apple gets first dibs at the displays. ASUS ends up with the rejects unless they use their OLED supply.
Other manufacturers other than apple don't want to invest loads of money in R&D and first dib costs. Even if the hardware ends up being better than apple nobody will buy it because its not apple. So what's the point.
> the delusional schizo thought bubbles of a fricking moron
not only do you know nothing about manufacturing, you seem to think apple sell machines. they lose market share every fricking year. nobody is buying them. you deranged and delusional pedophiles think apple's market is 90% instead 7% or so. get a grip, motherfricker.
>buy windows thin and light >try to do more than web browsing on it >WHIIIRRRRRR >battery dies in an our
Apple's still unmatched when it comes to laptops.
MacOS is insanely locked down and I dont understand why developers on Hackernews gush over something that has no package manager other than some hacky workaround (homebrew) and forces you to have an apple account to do normal shit. The UI is uber simple and not really made for technical use. You're forced to just use whatever it gives you, and it just wants to hold your hand. Such garbage shit.
The only good thing is the hardware, if I can have linux on a macbook then I have nothing to complain about; I'll buy one.
>if I can have linux on a macbook
not in a virtual (cuck) environment*
>MacOS is insanely locked down
how exactly is it more locked down than another OS?
>hacky workaround (homebrew)
>The UI is uber simple and not really made for technical use
first you contradict yourself: you seem to find installing homebrew "hacky", when it's just pasting one single command line into a terminal
then you call the UI "uber simple", because it has a desktop with icons and top and bottom panel. guess what, so does Windows and the most popular Loonix DE (Gnome / KDE)
>You're forced to just use whatever it gives you, and it just wants to hold your hand
what am I "forced" to use exactly? I can literally install any software I want to use
give me one example compared to using Windows or Loonix under Gnome / KDE
It doesn't allow you to uninstall most of the software it comes with.
Apple silicon is really just ARM chips which is cellphone architecture. They're really just using Apple silicon MacOS as a halfway point to turn every Mac user into an iOS user. In 10 years a MacBook Pro will just be an iPad with a built in keyboard.
Are you moronic?
There are far more iOS users than MacOS users.
what software bothers you so much that you want to uninstall? all built in macos softwares are trivial and can be ignored if you want to.
I don't have problems deleting Apple's out-of-the-box applications on my Mac.
>what software bothers you so much
Not the issue. The more options the user is presented with, the longer it takes them to find the one that they want. Having dozens of apps the user doesn't want occupying menus, folders, launchpads and search results is annoying and bad design (assuming the user's interests are the design goal). The reasonable thing is to allow users to remove the software they don't want and choose their own alternatives.
There's also storage considerations: sure I can just buy more since it's relatively inexpensive. But if I already have (and paid for) the built-in storage I should be able to fill it with stuff I need and remove everything else, not have it pre-filled with stuff I can't remove.
The only explanation for this is that they don't have the user's interest in mind. The point is to pressure the user into using their built-in apps by making it difficult or impossible to remove them, making alternatives seem redundant since you're stuck with the built-in ones either way.
Their approach makes it clear to me that my interests are not in mind. It's not in my interest to purchase a product that imposes artificial limits on what I can do with it in order to force me to do things in a way that benefits their bottom line.
Not to mention that many of the built-in apps are written to a read-only volume, so it's a lie when they advertise 256gb storage or w.e. the same way a ROM cartridge cannot advertise itself as storage. But they mislead the user by presenting it as a single volume.
>Having dozens of apps the user doesn't want occupying menus, folders, launchpads and search results is annoying and bad design (assuming the user's interests are the design goal). The reasonable thing is to allow users to remove the software they don't want and choose their own alternatives.
so basically the exact same as Windows and Gnome / KDE
Why do I need a useless package manager on macOS? Either Apple provides the updates or Macports or Brew can provide up to date command line tools in /opt.
>Why do I need a useless package manager on macOS?
> Macports or Brew
>Why do I need a useless package manager on macOS?
I’ve been using Macports for over 20 years. I consider it to be a specialized installer, since many ports are built by Macports from source.
For normies, there’s no need for a package manager. Apple’s signed & locked down updates do the job.
>Apple Silicon is adequate if you're just a normie!
case in point
>MacOS is insanely locked down
It's less locked down than windows home editions
>has no package manager other than some hacky workaround
Every package manager is a workaround
>forces you to have an apple account
You can actually use your mac without ever creating an apple account some apple apps won't work but who even cares?
>The UI is uber simple and not really made for technical use.
It's the same as Gnome basically
>if I can have linux on a macbook then I have nothing to complain about
So then what are you complaining about?
>tinkering with your OS
Autists seem to have a real hard time understanding that no one else cares about that
You literally just have to run a single (one (UNO)(1)) command as root to effectively unlock your system on macos.
>insanely locked down
t. Never touched a Mac before
if youe never touched a mac before why are you expressing your opinion?
ESL try again
>no comma therefore incomprehensible
grow a brain
I used to think MacOS was really locked down that they only allow apps to be installed from app store just like how it is on the iPhone, but after having the actual machine I realized that Cmacked or Allmacworlds is a thing and people pirate shit all the time on MacOS and it's really nice on Mac since I won't get cucked by these final cut pro or adobe software prices on mac
it is locked down. you're just a dumb Apple drone.
They already started rolling out signed "entitlements" to do things like edit the firewall on gayOS. syscalls being locked behind code signing is in fact, locking down the OS no matter how hard you claim otherwise, cuck.
Given the number of bad actors out there, why is a firewall entitlement a problem?
>homebrew
I prefer MacPorts
Same here.
Only time I don't like MacPorts is when the new version of macOS arrives & MacPorts needs an update. That update means a rebuild of all MacPorts will be soon.
>The only good thing is the hardware, if I can have linux on a macbook then I have nothing to complain about; I'll buy one.
no you don't.
I had an 11,1 and came to the same conclusions you did, but running Linux on it wasn't worth it. nonfree radio made it a nightmare to keep the kernel up to date and the firmware wouldn't respond to ACPI requests correctly at times because it's shit.
just say no to this shit.
I do though.
Good post
*farts*
I think Nvidia beat them to the punch.
Nvidia made hottest arm chip back in 2016 with denver
>Try to run llama2-70b
>RTX 4090 only has 24GB of vram
>Would need to get an RTX A6000 instead
>Macbook BRO 128GB runs it without issues (up to 96GB for GPU)
Turns out Macbook pro are really good for LLMs research
So for the price of an A6000 you can run it slower
Nice
For researching purposes it is great, for production you will need Nvidia. Considering you won't only need a single card but several on a single server.
you seem to know what you're talking about. let's say I have a solid $10k to spend on a server entirely focused on hosting LLMs. What particular set up of hardware (specific models you'd pick from nvidia) would be best suited for it?
You can get official server recommendations by Nvidia on whatever use case you need
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/data-center/data-center-gpus/tesla-qualified-servers-catalog/
Here's a general use case description with their data center models.
https://images.nvidia.com/content/pdf/gpu-accelerated-server-platforms.pdf
did you miss the 96GB available to the GPU part? That's an entire laptop for the price of an NVIDIA GPU with less memory.
did you read what I wrote? why did you nonsequitir so hard?
>>Try to run llama2-70b
Is this something you have actually done?
Is there a reason you would actually choose this over a smaller model if you're not going to run it for performance?
>gay 3000 dollar laptop that suddenly for no reason at all breaks down in five years because the coin people want more shekels from the goy
I'm good.
Air costs 1k and has same cpu, its still overpriced for what it worth.
More like $1500, and build quality is so good my macbook pro from 2013 is still usable.
On the other hand Windows has become unusable lately. Even i5-1335u struggles and I constantly see those little blue circle mouse pointers.
Without lies, mac hater dies.
Why the frick I would use decade old machine. If the battery did not fricked up until now, the screen must be burning eyes out. Its just a tool, 5 years top and you throw it on ebay.
I saw I’m ready for them to release the M3 Max Studio. I don’t want a passively cooled gaybook. I want something that will ramp the fans up hard when I go hard on all cores. I want to hear it scream like an Formula 1 car on the straights
I say wait for Zen 5
Doesn't work on my machine
>unbeaten
lol apple silicon isnt fast at all, takes an m3 max to match z1 extreme, a chip thats like half the size hahaha
>Brainlets still don't understand the advantage of m-series chips and ARM lies in the tradeoff of power consumption and performance i.e. efficiency, not raw power
The absolute state of this board
The 7840u is a 28-52w processor. the M2 max is a 45-90w processor.
The M2 Max is 2 processors, so I would expect twice the power consumption.
You're thinking of the M2 Ultra.
>brainlet doesn't understand that their phone like design leads to miniscule out of core consumption and the actual core efficiency is not better than contemporary x86
Quit deluding yourself, when M1 came out, it set the standard for notebook performance.
Yes and a few years later everyone else crushed them by their own standards
>everyone else crushed them by their own standards
Citation needed
I'm a dev who does very memory heavy and CPU intensive stuff (not ML, in that case ofc a proper tower would be required), and the silicon chips are a godsend. Until you've tried them you won't understand how much better the development experience is compared to other laptops. Everything is fast, the laptop stays cool and quiet, literal magic.
Can you tolerate the OS? When I tried it on a Hackintosh there were a number of things that pissed me off.
>Can you tolerate the OS?
It has some annoying quirks yes, but it's superbly optimized for laptops. And those that annoy you too much you usually can find an app that fixes it
>When I tried it on a Hackintosh there were a number of things that pissed me off.
Like what? Depending on the issue it might be due to hackintosh and not Mac os itself.
>Like what?
It was a while ago, but the most glaring one that I still remember was having to first give focus to a window before being able to interact with it, like pausing a video playing in a browser window.
>It was a while ago, but the most glaring one that I still remember was having to first give focus to a window before being able to interact with it, like pausing a video playing in a browser window.
Yeah okay fair enough that gets annoying at first. You either internalize it and just instinctively double click or you get a program that fixes the issue.
But as I said, MacOS is mostly superior for laptops, where you rarely have two windows side by side. So most users just switch between window focuses with a single motion of the hand (swipe up with three fingers, hover above window of choice and swipe down again with three fingers). It's about as fast as alt tabbing quickly and usually faster if you have a lot of windows.
Hackintosh? homie, please. There's your problems with macOS.
In what way does that limit me in trying out the OS and seeing how it functions? Do you do things with computers btw?
I've been working with this shit since the late 1970s. And you?
I've setup my own Hackintosh, on Ryzen. Nice experiment, but if things don't work on the Hackintosh, that's my problem, not Apple's.
>if things don't work on the Hackintosh,
Yes but I'm sure window management works, I'm sure the settings application works and several other things, all things I can have an opinion on due to having used them through a Hackintosh.
>You either internalize it and just instinctively double click or you get a program that fixes the issue.
Yeah I supposed, though I don't think there is a program for this specific thing.
>though I don't think there is a program for this specific thing.
There is a program for every thing that annoys users anon
brew install koekeishiya/formulae/yabai
brew services start yabai
yabai -m config focus_follows_mouse autofocus
>focus_follows_mouse
This is a horrible fix tbh.
Why? It's literally what windows does kek
No it's not, windows doesn't give focus to a window simply by moving the mouse over it, you can interact with it directly which then immediately gives it focus. It's not the same.
MacOS has that top menu bar, imagine having two windows stacked vertically, when you're using the bottom one and you want to interact with its menu bar, you would have to move the mouse around the top window to avoid giving it focus and thereby switching the menu bar to that app.
>windows doesn't give focus to a window simply by moving the mouse over it
nta but windows itself gives you the option to do it
I didn't know that option was there, but that's also quite besides the point.
I'd bet there are applications that will correct any window management issues you run into.
For normies, out of the box window management is fine.
>I'd bet there are applications that will correct any window management issues you run into.
If there was I would have found it. But yeah I guess you can get used to it.
Here's some tweaking:
https://club.macstories.net/posts/macstories-weekly-issue-408
BTW, I've worked with the Mac since 1985. I consider the single menu bar to be the right way to do things.
>I consider the single menu bar to be the right way to do things.
baby duck senile moron, that neuroplasticity is never coming back
Goalposts!
You are shilling apple for free.
> trade off
that's right. you get no performance but great battery time. wow. that's great if you only plan to use safari and login to facebook all day.
quite a few people setup QEMU with video passthrough and can use macos (including ARM versions) running at a very acceptable speeds all day long. cost: $0
>muh power
Literally doesn't matter. Plug your laptop in, moron.
It doesn't matter how good the hardware is if there is no software to run in it.
Useless to me
>Apple benchmarked th M3 against the M1 to hide the miniscule improvemwnt of M3 from M2
Kys
Unbeaten at what? Highest temperature achieved in a laptop?
no games
IQfy is 18+
You are just jaded and depressed or some goody do shoes homosexual.
If I put a power limit on a 7840HS, will it basically become a 7840U? The former seems to have better availability.
>Apple Silicon
Are people still getting roped in to this scam? Apple Silicon might work if all you do is check your email, but anyone doing REAL computing is going to use an x86_64 chip (either Intel or an AMD Threadripper) and an Nvidia GPU (2060 and up).
>2060 and up
What's it like having dirt floors?
I wasn't talking about myself. Personally, I have 2xA6000s, 3x3090s and 1x4090. But I wanted to be "reasonable" since I assume people moronic enough to buy apple products are gonna scream and shout about having to buy an actual computer after they thought they were getting the top of the line and are now realizing that no program not specifically made for apple silicon will work on it.
> REAL computing
A pseudo argumentative trick to classify in real/true and false based on no quantitive messure.
So every example against you can be claimed as „not valid/ non real computing“, while your point remains true based on your „definition“ on „real“
Real computing examples:
1. Anything Artificial Intelligence
2. Writing and Running your own Simulations
3. Running any program compiled before 2021.
etc...
that's not computing, sorry
These things are literally the only things you need a computer for. The only thing Apple Silicon does is let you check your facebook, which you shouldn't be doing anyway since to socialize you should literally just walk outside.
i can do that on a 200$ android phone. frick you
>i can do that on a 200$ android phone. frick you
Indeed, that's why paying 3000 dollars for "Apple Silicon" makes no sense.
Visit Lenovo. Take a look at pricing for the new X1, Gen 12 laptop.
just did, holy lmao. to be fair Thinkpads are just troony toys nowadays, their probably just capitalizing on femboy disposable income
god I need a femboy so badly (as a straight man)
Prices will drop by July.
Intel has found a new showplace vendor in Lenovo.
I have a Lenovo with i5-1335u, Windows absolutely kills it, everything is so slow and bloated. But alas I need it for some obscure Windows only software.
Anybody who does these, prefers to write code on macbooks because it's just a more pleasant experience overall (I write highly specialized computational optimization software for transportation & logistics)
if you ever want to do anything real you're gonna have to pay for cloud computing to keep working from your macbook. so now you've paid 1 time for the macbook, 1 time for the cloud compute, and after all that cash you still don't have any useful hardware. what a shame
What cloud computin' do I need to pay for? I'm working on my MacBook Pro & don't want to be locked out.
No. I need a Threadripper to be “real?”
Gimme a fricking break.
Intel is fine too. Threadripper's just good if you need extra PCIE lanes or do a lot of multithreaded work.
awww looks like someone is too poor for a threadripper! have a nice day Poorgay Lol
Does Threadripper run macOS?
>What say you?
Esl.
Its used in overpriced toys for moronic children.
And x86 emulation is still unoptimized shit.
x86 is the past, anon
>i said so
Unfortunely for you its still isn't.
These Desktop Linux fossils will go down with the x86 ship.
If I need x86, I’ll buy an x86 box.
The primary purpose of Rosetta 2 is to migrate the installed base, with acceptable performance for x86 binaries.
Apple will kill Rosetta 2 for macOS as quickly as possible. Rosetta 2 for virtualization? It’ll be around for a while.
They are ASICs. Literally only good at encoding and decoding h264 and h265. Nothing else.
the winner of a race with 1 participant.
amd already beat it
It's true, no-one beats apple at making overpriced garbage
Garbage? What garbage is Apple producing?
Wasn't snapdragon elite like 16% better for 1% less efficiency?
Don’t get me wrong, I love the idea of an SoC, very cool concept, especially for mobile devices. But in desktops and Apple being the one to “normalize” it, frick off.
uuuh ooh but it doesn't run my shitty toy operating system ! its le shit !
What do these different tiers of chips provide, exactly?
The M-series as a whole is touted as a MASSIVE uptick in performance over the x86 solutions of the past so you're already playing with power even using the "base" model.
Add to that MacBook Pros no longer have dedicated graphics so these "Pro" and "Max" chips have to be doing all the graphical lifting on their own. Like...what is the competitive advantage and why should you buy into a higher performance tier with these M-series chips?
- more cores
- more RAM, since RAM is per processor
- more GPUs, so more external monitors
But that doesn't speak to single core differentiation between tiers. More cores means scalable workloads can get done faster (like video encoding) but as far as raw computing performance it sounds like you're still getting the same function.
Seems to me like they just shrunk the audience for MBPs. People used to buy them because they wanted a better computer, not necessarily because they needed something with a specific workload in mind. Now those people can probably feel at home with a regular MacBook (certainly applies to me since I'm not looking for specific workloads, just quality computers that make my day smooth).
>ARM
No thanks
How is the ray tracing performance?
Goodmorning sir
I'll be buying a macbook pro next generation. Went to the apple store the other week, screen's amazing, typing's phenomenal, I can't be without one. I will take it as my wife.
seriously tho why dont other manufacturers make laptop with same thin quiet design as apple and retina displays?
literally why?
everything other than macbook is bulkier, hotter and louder
Pretty sure Apple gets first dibs at the displays. ASUS ends up with the rejects unless they use their OLED supply.
Other manufacturers other than apple don't want to invest loads of money in R&D and first dib costs. Even if the hardware ends up being better than apple nobody will buy it because its not apple. So what's the point.
> the delusional schizo thought bubbles of a fricking moron
not only do you know nothing about manufacturing, you seem to think apple sell machines. they lose market share every fricking year. nobody is buying them. you deranged and delusional pedophiles think apple's market is 90% instead 7% or so. get a grip, motherfricker.
but i bought a macbook m1
>everything
thin and light is probably the biggest market segment for windows, get a surfacebook, get a hp, a dell, even lenovo has thin and lights
admit it youre just trollin
>buy windows thin and light
>try to do more than web browsing on it
>WHIIIRRRRRR
>battery dies in an our
Apple's still unmatched when it comes to laptops.
was gonna buy but it seems cucked purposely and terrible practices for how they upsell
maybe m4 won't be as blantant
It renders gay porn faster than any computer ever made. Now that's amazing.
Remooooveeee noootch