Still waiting to be refuted

Premise 1: Both an all-powerful, all-loving God and the suffering of the innocent cannot coexist.
Premise 2: The suffering of the innocent exists.
Conclusion: An all-powerful all-loving God does not exist.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Must be nice to have a Christian, all it takes to forget your problems is to stare at a postcard

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    guess no one can refute it, then.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Animals lives do not matter thus their suffering does not matter vegan.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Humans are animals. If reptilian aliens were eating human meat, would you still believe God loves humans?

      https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/190c38i/its_a_human_meat_processing_plant_the_harrowing/

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Aliens aren't real. Get a grip.

        Must be nice to have a Christian, all it takes to forget your problems is to stare at a postcard

        It is nice, you should try it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >reddit
          Didn't read don't care.
          >humans are animals
          We have surpassed being mere beasts of the land. Animals are there for humans to use. That is a fact. We are the most advanced species on this planet, whatever else is out there is irrelevant and just whataboutism.
          Tell me vegan. If animals are humans equal, where is there advanced language system? Where is their economy? Where are their tools?

          If an animal is equal to man;
          Show me the Hippopotamus Michaelangelo and I will gaze upon its arrival
          Give me the Caesar Eagle and I will walk through his Empire
          Find me the Snake Chopin and I will listen in wonder at his music.

          Oh you can't? Want to know why? Animals are inferior to humans.

          aliens are real you snarky smoothbrains. Listen to your intellectual superiors when they tell you something important. Reptilian aliens do eat humans and grey aliens mutilate humans while the human is alive (remove eyes, lips, anus, lymph nodes, blood etc). People saw evidence of in the brain of these abandoned bodies of the mutilations being done while the victim was alive. Some aliens are bad news, maybe some are good (we hope).

          Back to God, why is God letting this abhorrent stuff happen to humans? Because there is no God. What did we do to deserve it? One could say "eat meat", but what about rabbits? They eat grass and they get eaten painfully. The suffering of the innocent proves there is no God.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >aliens and reptilians!!!!!
            >>>/x/
            moron. Karma doesn't exist

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >reddit
        Didn't read don't care.
        >humans are animals
        We have surpassed being mere beasts of the land. Animals are there for humans to use. That is a fact. We are the most advanced species on this planet, whatever else is out there is irrelevant and just whataboutism.
        Tell me vegan. If animals are humans equal, where is there advanced language system? Where is their economy? Where are their tools?

        If an animal is equal to man;
        Show me the Hippopotamus Michaelangelo and I will gaze upon its arrival
        Give me the Caesar Eagle and I will walk through his Empire
        Find me the Snake Chopin and I will listen in wonder at his music.

        Oh you can't? Want to know why? Animals are inferior to humans.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    True. But other gods exist. Also gore can be beautiful, tragedy is the most beautiful of genres as well.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    OR
    >Premise 1: The suffering of the innocent exists.
    >Premise 2: God is all-powerful and all-loving.
    >Conclusion: Any suffering leads to a greater good.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      But the greater good could come just as easily without the suffering. For a hypothetical God, suffering would be a completely unnecessary component of nature.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        We suffer because of our nature. The good that God wants for us can only come about through suffering because of our nature. Abolition of that suffering would require a change in our nature.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Why doesn't God change our nature, then, so that we don't experience suffering? Your answer, I expect, is that he wants us to suffer. Not omni-benevolent (because suffering is self-evidently bad, else we wouldn't seek to avoid it).

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >mine eyes hath seen the glory of the coming of the lord
    >he is trampling down the vineyard where the grapes of wrath are stored
    >he hath loosed the fateful lightning of his terrible swift sword
    >his truth is marching on
    >GLORIA
    Stop eating s[]y, yoga boy
    Eat a steak, take a boxing class, wrestle a dog

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the world is ending
    Praise God!

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat
    He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment-seat
    Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! Be jubilant, my feet!
    Our God is marching on
    Glory, glory, hallelujah!

    If you heard this and you tried to argue it rather than resonate such a rare call to brave action, then I cannot help you.

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