SYSTEMD TAKES OVER SUDO

Yep, say goodbye to Linux sudo. It'll be handled by System D now just like user directories are now, and (some?) DNS, and time synchronization...

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They still let this paid microsoft employee contribute to systemd?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Microsoft and IBM are partner companies. Partnering to kill Linux.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lurk more, homosexual.

    [...]

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    sudo is maintained outside of Linux though, and incredibly few professional Linux sysadmins will use the systemd "replacement".

    Their scope creep tried to replace ntp, and failed, because work servers aren't Pottering's laptop. See also name resolution, home directories, syslog, and cron. At least the systemd timers act as a decent additional tool to cron, but it doesn't replace it at all.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >openbsd replaces sudo with duas, a utility that has 1% the LoC and uses exec for extra lifetime security guarantees
    >good
    >systemd replaces sudo with run0, a utility that has 1% the LoC and uses exec for extra lifetime security guarantees
    >bad

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OpenBSD is good and trustworthy.
      Poetteringware breaks my sound and stops anything else from opening /dev/snd/control0. And he fricked up my init scripts. And he sodomized my log files. And timesyncd doesn't have nearly the feature set of ntpd so it's kind of dumb distros started replacing ntpd with it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I want to get more into openBSD but it feels like there's a giant lack of practical documentation. Man pages are one thing, useful examples are utterly lacking.
        I'm a novice to intermediate user and I got as far as installing apache on an openBSD server in an attempt to move my mail server to it. After that, I just kind of failed at other components so I gave up on that and tried just to put up a php-based website. I failed too many times along the way so I gave up until I learn a lot more.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I had the same experience. Reading the FAQ on www.openbsd.org helped somewhat but I still had WTF moments trying to figure out how to install it. That being said, you can always count on its reference documentation, even if examples are lacking.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Your first mistake is installing Apache, you should try to use the OpenBSD components that ship with the OS. The FAQs are good and OpenBSD has a rather small community so to do more arcane things you should look at peoples personal blogs.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          openBSD is irrelevant in 2024, its claim of 'no security holes in the default install' was undone ages ago. Some good things have come out of the openbsd project, but not openbsd itself. Use Linux.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Much like Plan 9, it will stay relevant as long as homosexuals like you keep yapping about it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >a utility that has 1% the LoC
      40x the LoC.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      doas: 32kib, 12s compile
      sudo: 5183kib, 58s compile

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >a utility that has 1% the LoC
      40x the LoC.

      doas: 32kib, 12s compile
      sudo: 5183kib, 58s compile

      sudo is bloated at 284k lines of code
      https://lwn.net/Articles/971812/

      systemd is a monstrosity at 1.98m

      doas is something like 600 LOC. And there are some portable forks for linux/mac

      https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Doas
      https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Doas

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >sudo is a bloated POS
        >systemd is an even more bloated POS replacing another bloated POS and making morons feel good about cleaning up
        Just Linux thing. Linux is the Windows of UNIX.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yes exactly
      I don't use openbsd but from what I've heard on IQfyeddit it's "le good"

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't use openbsd so I don't care but I do use Linux and pottering keeps developing new types of malware for it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OpenBSD developers are actually competent and not corporate infiltrators

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But this is what I don't understand. doas already exists if sudo makes you mad. Why the frick does poettering need to reinvent the wheel yet again?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Why the frick does poettering need to reinvent the wheel yet again?
        So that he can say on his Agile Daily Sprint Refinemtn Scrum of Scrums that he "did something" so his employment remains unchallenged

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I doubt he's getting paid for maintaining his shitty open-source project. It would have been such a hilarious waste of money for IBM to pay him when he's more than willing to frick everything up in the Unix land on his own

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's exactly what happened though. RedHat paid him to write PulseAudio (good), then paid him to write systemd. It's only in recent years that he moved to Microsoft.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        doas is too minimal and not maintained by Red Hat.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Doesn't it still use suid?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I guess. Why is SUID the devil again?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://mastodon.social/@pid_eins/112353324518585654

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            opinion discarded

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He doesn't say anything of substance. This is just "SUID bad".

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, and?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >openbsd

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    retvrning to su rn

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Post the thing you hate most about systemd.

    For me, it's the dbus requirement.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't really mind dbus, but I hate that half of daemons aren't in /etc/init.d anymore
      # /etc/init.d/lightdm restart

      works but
      # /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart

      doesn't, because that isn't an init script anymore.
      I don't like that systemd wants to take over sudo but the fact is, I won't notice or care as long as
      >/etc/sudoers format and parsing doesn't change
      >the command is still sudo
      >visudo is still installed
      >any graphic bullshit is suppressed by default when distros adopt it
      >the text output reads the same as sudo
      The whole reason I switched to Linux was because Windows XP to Windows Vista was too much change, and I'm very happy to keep my operating system working the same way as it did in 2008 TYVM. I'll even take HAL back instead of udev, it was mostly fine.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I hate that half of daemons aren't in /etc/init.d anymore
        nothing should be using init.d on systemd machines
        >/etc/sudoers format and parsing doesn't change
        no chance
        >the command is still sudo
        let me introduce you to aliases
        >visudo is still installed
        visudo only exists as a sanity check around just editing /etc/sudoers and wouldn't be needed
        >any graphic bullshit is suppressed by default when distros adopt it
        most distros don't even ship a graphical sudo. I don't even know what still works

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      journald is an affront to god
      querying binary logs should not be literally hundreds of times slower than grepping text logs

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      security risks

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Trying to replace everything while being worse at it.
      It tries to replace the network manager, boot loader, NTP, cron, syslog...
      It surely looks like the NSA's favorite piece of software and RedHat is happy since it makes other distros so much more dependable on what they do.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it is almost as if redhat was funded by the nsa

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, it's giga based, little npc that needs to validate his opinions on the internet. You can trust Poettering, IBM and Red Hat to continue improving the Linux ecosystem, go tell your little friends on the Japanese cartoon imageboards.

          Death to redhat, death to freedesktop, hail openbsd, white power

          >sudo ... install neofetch
          >Error! sudo not found. Try RedHat ... install (package)
          >RedHat ... install neofetch
          >Error. Insufficient credits. Add more credits at RedHat webpage @ redhat.com OR use ad based administration access. Try IBM does it best! RedHat ... install (package)

          Trying to replace everything while being worse at it.
          It tries to replace the network manager, boot loader, NTP, cron, syslog...
          It surely looks like the NSA's favorite piece of software and RedHat is happy since it makes other distros so much more dependable on what they do.

          What timeline are you living in? SystemD is sponsored and maintained by Microsoft now, not redhat.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The amount of churn in the SystemD source code is horrifying. Just try to comprehend how many remote code vulnerabilities have been mixed in and then out and then back in again.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Slow

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Journald.
      Logs shouldn't be binary, ever, because the basic interface is text, and basic interfaces are important when debugging. You shouldn't be required to get one specific thing to work to be able to read your own fricking logs when your system shits itself. Whoever had that moronic idea needs to destroy his computer and go live in a cave, because that's the level of civilization his brain is capable of.

      That's aside from the "brilliant" concept of replacing a vast number of distinct tools that all do one thing very well with one giant pile of unauditable spaghetti code to begin with.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is based, isn't it?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, it's giga based, little NPC that needs to validate his opinions on the internet. You can trust Poettering, IBM and Red Hat to continue improving the Linux ecosystem, go tell your little friends on the Japanese cartoon imageboards.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Embrace, extend, extinguish.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      systemd has already fixed most of Linux's problems. I trust those devs based on a solid track record.

      Some time ago I tried `systemd-boot` as a grub replacement and it was actually... good??
      like it does its job and the config files were clean and easy.

      so I welcome this whole new thing,
      perhaps the config files will be easier to understand
      and not be the clusterfrick that sudo config is,
      Like
      >%wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
      What the frick is even all that garbage
      who the frick wrote this like that, it is not clean or understandable without spending 2 hours reading the docs

      honestly, if they take the time to fix the shit that's broken with sudo, as well as all the other shit you just mentioned. I have no issues.

      sudo has been broken, most competent sysadmins I know still only use sudo to sudo su - to run as root. frick sudo. The only homosexuals that like sudo are the ones who will throw you under the bus. I cringe everytime I see a command prefaced with sudo.

      sudo frick you b***h

      good good. only a fool would say that systemd hasn't been a huge improvement for gnu linux.

      Remember IQfy, every time you buy a Microsoft product, theese pajeets get their +15 rupees for shilling.

      SystemD is llitteraly microsoftware and you cannot argue with that - if you support systemd, you hate Linux. This is not a joke, i repeat - this is a campaign against opensource. Wake up, anon.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        systemd is FOSS

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's so complex and inescrutable it might as well be a binary blob at this point.
          Nobody knows what's in there. It hasn't been audited since 2013 when it was 1/4th of its current size.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the source code is available, the frick are you talking about? you guys are absolute morons lmao.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >source code
            >literally unreadable jeetware

            no thanks

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            learn to code

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The source code is 1.98 million lines of code you moronic shitstain. Last time there was a comprehensive security audit of systemd was for its inclusion in RHEL7, this was in 2013, back then systemd was "only" 600k lines of code long, and the official Red Hat audit still found over a dozen serious security flaws and bugs.
            You can read about it here:
            https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2013/12/msg00000.html

            If you don't understand how complexity is a threat to open source, then maybe you should stick to Windows and don't larp as a FOSS supporter. The fact is nobody knows what's hiding in those 1.98 million lines of code because nobody has the time or resources to do a proper security audit on it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The source code is 1.98 million lines of code
            and? linux? gnome? kde? you guys are ridiculous

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Linux kernel is a mess too.
            I'm considering switching to HURD.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Linux kernel is a mess too.
            I'm considering switching to HURD.

            Linux isn't really that big for what it does. It's mostly just drivers.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >linux?
            Linux has to support a diverse set of CPU architectures and drivers tho

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Much easier and safer to just not use systemd. Auditing it would be a full time job for 50 people for a couple years, easy.

            It's trash and doubtless has backdoors.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Much easier
            false. systemd greatly improved both develepoer and end user experiences.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            sorry, but no one asked for an opinion of an IBM shill

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just run everything as root anyway

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I just run everything as root anyway

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Extremely based and supremely moronic at the same time.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's wrong with it? All your important data is under your normal, fully accessible user account anyway.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you may not be interested in the Gleichschaltung but the Gleichschaltung is interested in you

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't have sudo or systemd in my system

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    sudo is bloat
    just use su

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    im a windows moron
    what the frick is a systemd

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A program that turns Unix-like operating systems into Windows.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Like the windows service manager. It's a relatively new software that replaced the old way of handling services on most Linux systems.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's a glistening, glimmering gemerald that makes trannies seethe

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Think of it this way... its like the Thanos of Linux

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    honestly, if they take the time to fix the shit that's broken with sudo, as well as all the other shit you just mentioned. I have no issues.

    sudo has been broken, most competent sysadmins I know still only use sudo to sudo su - to run as root. frick sudo. The only homosexuals that like sudo are the ones who will throw you under the bus. I cringe everytime I see a command prefaced with sudo.

    sudo frick you b***h

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How is sudo broken?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not enough systemd in it

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I have to preface every command I use with it.

        Context switching isn't too hard, but it's hard enough to cause mistakes by even the best of us.

        Doesn't inherit my environment

        Depending on whatever asshat security dipshit is in charge of the rules, it can make looping through commands from a control server via ssh to client systems impossible.

        Honestly the shills are the people who were all like "always use sudo never run as root" because their too incompetent to set up audits to trace command execution.

        It's literally the biggest meme memed to existence by moronic security nerds. They literally got everyone to buy into the meme.

        Oh yeah, also, if you care about this shit and only use linux for personal use you are a gigantic homosexual.

        Also this:
        https://www.garyshood.com/root/

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > compulsive lying damage control

      How is sudo broken?

      never was. people all over the internet are quite mad about systemd's programmer just lying about everything. and usual shills are going around doing damage control just making up fantasy stories about sudo. it's not working well for them.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There is no fixing Linux. People are fleeing in droves to BSD. Mailing list volumes are way up in the last few years on all BSD variants.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >There is no fixing Linux
          don't act like bsd is any better. that shit has had some shocking security practices over the years just like linux has.
          >Mailing list volumes are way up in the last few years on all BSD variants.
          really meaningless, anon. the volume of a mailing list is not indicative of actual install base (which is nowhere near the size of linux and never will be).

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >don't act like bsd is any better.
            It's way better. And don't tout ACLs as a feature. You can do it all with users + groups + user private groups.

            NSA literally wrote the Linux kernel code for ACLs. Who knows what kinds of stuff they sneaked in.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >NSA literally wrote the Linux kernel code for ACLs. Who knows what kinds of stuff they sneaked in.
            why are you so worried about the NSA anon? What kind of shit are you up to bro?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >why are you so worried about the NSA anon?
            Clapper lies to Congress at least twice, and to the American people at least twice on TV when he was head of NSA. It's no longer trustworthy. The capabilities they develop and maintain and extend, are designed to violate the American people.

            If there was no FVEY and the FISA court had real-time oversight, instead of post-hoc, we could maybe let them have their capabilities. But take The Fappening. Everybody knows it was glowBlack folk making a fap pack and it leaked.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >But take The Fappening. Everybody knows it was glowBlack folk making a fap pack and it leaked.
            No body KNOWS, it's just a Wild Ass Guess.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Some time ago I tried `systemd-boot` as a grub replacement and it was actually... good??
    like it does its job and the config files were clean and easy.

    so I welcome this whole new thing,
    perhaps the config files will be easier to understand
    and not be the clusterfrick that sudo config is,
    Like
    >%wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
    What the frick is even all that garbage
    who the frick wrote this like that, it is not clean or understandable without spending 2 hours reading the docs

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>%wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
      No password for all commands for users in the big wheel group.
      It's not fricking different anon.
      You do have a wheel group already, right?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yes, but why is it so cryptic?
        the config file could be simpler with easier to understand verbs and not requiring dumb one liners that do multiple things

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >yes, but why is it so cryptic?
          It's not cryptic.
          This is the contents of man 5 sudoers at my site.
          The User specification is the part that actually determines who may run what.

          root ALL = (ALL) ALL
          %wheel ALL = (ALL) ALL

          We let root and any user in group wheel run any command on any host as any user.

          FULLTIMERS ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL

          Full time sysadmins (millert, mikef, and dowdy) may run any command on any host without authenticating themselves.

          PARTTIMERS ALL = ALL

          Part time sysadmins bostley, jwfox, and crawl) may run any command on any host but they must authenticate themselves first (since the
          entry lacks the NOPASSWD tag).

          jack CSNETS = ALL

          The user jack may run any command on the machines in the CSNETS alias (the networks 128.138.243.0, 128.138.204.0, and 128.138.242.0).
          Of those networks, only 128.138.204.0 has an explicit netmask (in CIDR notation) indicating it is a class C network. For the other net‐
          works in CSNETS, the local machine's netmask will be used during matching.

          lisa CUNETS = ALL

          The user lisa may run any command on any host in the CUNETS alias (the class B network 128.138.0.0).

          Just RTFM or ask your system administrator to do it for you.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You must really like doing trivial shit to justify existence.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >what OS do you use?
    I use Systemd.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    systemd has already fixed most of Linux's problems. I trust those devs based on a solid track record.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      remember init scripts, jfc that was god awful

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Slackware uses init scripts and they work great. What's the issue?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, it wasn't.
          It was just shell scripts, the same thing you do everything else of value in. Frick DSLs, my entire system could be brought up from my .bashrc in a pinch.

          Hobbyists.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            kys shill

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Calling me a hobbyist is not an argument, you piece of shit shill.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, it wasn't.
        It was just shell scripts, the same thing you do everything else of value in. Frick DSLs, my entire system could be brought up from my .bashrc in a pinch.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >system
          Singular.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Running from box to box to boot is a bit of a drag, but it's not like all the runlevels on all your machines would get fricked up at the same time.
            I've fricked up init scripts before and that's what my CD binder full of Live CDs are for.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >my entire system could be brought up from my .bashrc in a pinch
          Knoppix did exactly the same.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Very organic post, thanks Lennart.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. I remember being an Arch user on the front lines of the great systemd migration. It was largely seemless and left me with a better system overall. That was eons ago.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >systemd has already fixed most of Linux's problems. I trust those devs based on a solid track record.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The argument is 1.98 million lines of code that haven't had a security audit since 2013.
        But that's fine let's keep adding shit to it so that nobody notices the NSA backdoor.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This but unironically

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >This but unironically
        *gets hacked through SSH since moronic Black person systemd pulled in ONE BILLION dependencies including fricking lib XZ for no fricking reason into sshd*
        no, thanks, homosexual

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why isn't it possible to import one function without pulling in unrelated transient dependencies?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I use systemd-maxxed Arch btw, and I wasn't even affected by the backdoor. Not my problem shitty distros got affected by it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the backdoor is configured to attack only debian/fedora
            >if (OS == debian) hack(); else return
            >WOW LOOK MY NON-DEBIAN/FEDORA OS SOMEHOW RESISTED THIS ATTACK, I RULE!!!!
            lamao
            see you at the next exploit in libwhogivesafrick3.0.so which will not be so nice
            idiot.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Arch does not directly link openssh to liblzma, and thus this attack vector is not possible
            0/10 reading comprehension

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >>Arch does not directly link openssh to liblzma,
            I stopped reading at the opening text whey they literally say exploit is configured to attack only debian/fedora, you mongolian dog

            and it does nothing at all to invalidate the point that pulling in BILLION FRICKING DEPS will get you killed.

            Why isn't it possible to import one function without pulling in unrelated transient dependencies?

            >Why isn't it possible to import one function without pulling in unrelated transient dependencies?
            afaik it's a lib, and exploit was not in some unused function of that lib, but in the startup code of the lib that always is run obviously

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            at what point does installing libshit.so call in an airstrike on my ass?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >at what point does installing libshit.so call in an airstrike on my ass?
            I think when your program links to it.

            Check with

            $ ldd /usr/bin/htop
            linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffeaaaeb000)
            libncursesw.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libncursesw.so.6 (0x00007f8c9d940000)
            libtinfo.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtinfo.so.6 (0x00007f8c9d910000)
            libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00007f8c9d788000)
            libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f8c9d5c8000)
            libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x00007f8c9d5c0000)
            /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f8c9dbf8000)

            ldd /usr/bin/kate | wc -l
            =96

            Boat.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >>at what point does installing libshit.so call in an airstrike on my ass?
            >I think when your program links to it.
            and, obviously, when you run the said program.
            or when given installed package also makes the program or some of it's sub programs auto run at start and alike

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >>at what point does installing libshit.so call in an airstrike on my ass?
            >I think when your program links to it.
            and, obviously, when you run the said program.
            or when given installed package also makes the program or some of it's sub programs auto run at start and alike

            Yeah but it's not like I can do anything about it. There's this notion of implicit trust towards package maintainers that they will not try to screw you over on purpose. Of course, increasing the amount of shit I install on my PC makes it more probable that I'm going to eat shit but sometimes you just have to use certain software and there are no alternatives.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What if it dlopens it? systemd is making a change that dlopens compression libs, so nobody can use ldd to blame systemd for linking to backdoored crap.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I stopped reading at the opening text whey they literally say exploit is configured to attack only debian/fedora
            Not my problem you have a fried attention span on top of poor reading comprehension.

            That anon was moronic but your argument is almost as much. If Arch was used in production for something actually serious that can be used to actually do harm then the attack would have worked on Arch to begin with. If not why the frick make a backdoor that is not going to work? It's just coincidental that the backdoor didn't work in Arch because nobody cares about hijacking Arch.

            Fair, but this attack and the way it didn't work on Arch (i.e. the maintainers don't just link everything for no reason), shows me that this attack vector (i.e. take over a poorly maintained open source software repo that happens to be an optional dependency on something security related) is more difficult to pull off on Arch.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >(i.e. take over a poorly maintained open source software repo that happens to be an optional dependency on something security related) is more difficult to pull off on Arch.
            how you arrive at this hopelessly misguided conclusion?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That anon was moronic but your argument is almost as much. If Arch was used in production for something actually serious that can be used to actually do harm then the attack would have worked on Arch to begin with. If not why the frick make a backdoor that is not going to work? It's just coincidental that the backdoor didn't work in Arch because nobody cares about hijacking Arch.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The devs of systemd are so moronic Linus told them they need to be retroactively aborted.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Calm down Linus.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          To be fair, he's probably said that to half of the kernel devs out there. This is just his way of communicating he's alpha on the kernel.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is unironically what we need, for systemd to become such a monstrosity that it conflicts with the rest of the GNU/Linux ecosystem and someone finally forks it to remove the 70% of it that's literally useless.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    in the future you will write
    >lennart apt update
    >lennart apt upgrade
    :^)

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >or as i like to call it, systemd + linux

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    who fricking cares, I just spam and coom on this homosexual board.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Death to redhat, death to freedesktop, hail openbsd, white power

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]

      Hello glowies.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Your presence is very obvious on this thread.
          It's fricking glowing. What can I say? You folks need to be more subtle.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Your presence is very obvious on this thread.
            >It's fricking glowing. What can I say? You folks need to be more subtle.
            yeah, I'm a federal agent tasked with posting on IQfy, specifically to encourage the populace to not use sudo and say stupid shit like white power.

            Schizo post of the year

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that was like... an obviously israeli image to be posting. KYS

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    has already fixed most of Linux's problems. I trust those devs based on a solid track record.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    good good. only a fool would say that systemd hasn't been a huge improvement for gnu linux.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >sudo ... install neofetch
    >Error! sudo not found. Try RedHat ... install (package)
    >RedHat ... install neofetch
    >Error. Insufficient credits. Add more credits at RedHat webpage @ redhat.com OR use ad based administration access. Try IBM does it best! RedHat ... install (package)

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SystemD + Linux

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    good, sudo is insecure anyway. You need a different password between your user account and your superuser activities.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's the use case for sudo?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there is not one

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >when asked for a comment about how white supremacists and japanese far right wing groups have taken to openbsd, Theo said "good."

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've been using doas for a year already (and runit), not my business.

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Devuan.
    Gentoo.

    Come home, white man.

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >something works fine
    >freetards: NOT ON MY WATCH!!!

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >@pid_eins
    >v256
    Boy, he sure takes his job seriously!

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When do we stop referring to it as GNU/Linux and instead call it Systemd/Linux? Is there much actual GNU code left?

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder if it’d be feasible to rewrite an alternative systemd, uses the same config files and communication mechanisms, but is less of a mess code wise, and doesn’t implement all the extra bullshit like systemd-home. I’m not sure it’d be doable because it’d be a constantly moving target, and systemd breaks shit often enough internally anyway, let alone if you were trying to remain compatible with it.

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I will never run a distro that uses systemd

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >troonydon
    YOU WILL NEVER BE A WOMAN

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm root by default, I don't need to say any magic word to do whatever I like.

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bump

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >su
    >apt install sudo

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Linux on desktop would be nowhere close to be usable without Red Hat.

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [codes]
    sudo pacman -S doas
    sudo pacman -R sudo
    echo "alias sudo='doas'" >> ~/.bashrc
    . ~/.bashrc
    [/code]
    Problem solved

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [nick.garr@IQfy] ~ # which sudo doas;pgrep systemd
    [nick.garr@IQfy] ~ #

    comfy

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's already garbage by design anyways
    https://twitter.com/hackerfantastic/status/1785495587514638559
    frick lennartware, this dude can only ever produce dogshit, why do companies keep hiring/promoting morons...
    can someone explains this to me?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what have you ever produced, dude?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >A user can access their own terminal
      ok.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what is a reverse shell

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it it like reverse rape they keep talking about over on /h/?

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not my problem.

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