>The new finds are also forcing a reexamination of old Chinese books that describe historical or legendary figures of great height, with deep-set blue or green eyes, long noses, full beards, and red or blond hair. Scholars have traditionally scoffed at these accounts, but it now seems that they may be accurate.
>The Tajik people show the relative highest affinity with the Tarim mummies
what do you think about this?
It's been well known for at least a century that Indo-European peoples were in China tho; Tocharians.
The Tocharians came much later than the Tarim Mummies. The Tocharians are the descendants of the Proto-Indo-Europeans, while the Tarim mummies are directly descended from Ancient North Eurasians, who were themselves ancestors to the Proto-Indo-Europeans.
>while the *oldest* Tarim mummies
corrected
There are many Tarim mummies from different periods. Some of them might be Tocharian.
Also, I don't think anyone who follows ancient DNA expects Tocharians to look like PIE. They were probably mutts, like everyone else in that region.
Tajiks are regarded as subhumans in Russia.
Isn't that the case for all ex-Soviet countries?
You copied your paragraph from "March of the Titan" a known dishonest as frick book.
Also Iranics arent "mysterious" in Chinese history lol. They also weren't exactly admired seeing how "Hongmao" (red haired barbarian) is how they are usually referred to.
Why the frick do you spell Iranians as Ironic? Should we spell Chinese as Chinics too?
He's a moron that consumes Wikipedia and believes anything it shits out.
There is literally nothing wrong with Wikipedia.
There's plenty of wrong with wikipedia. Especially when it comes to ancient DNA. The Tarim article was especially bad.
Can't you just... update the article?
No. I don't care enough about this, also English isn't my first language. The article is still confusing as it includes older and newer research on this topic, that seem contradictory.
Everyone was barbarian outside of china you might as we translate it as red haired foreigner
Tarim mummies belong to many different groups of people. The original ones Xiaohe culture are ANE-East Asian mix and they definitely didn't have blue eyes.
By the time of Late Bronze Age (and probably earlier) Andronovo Iranics came there. From the North descendants of Afanasievo also settled there (probably Tocharians).
The later Tarim mummies had large EEF admixture which made them lighter and less mongoloid looking
later Tarim looked more Mongoloid and their EEF never exceeded 15%
Earliest mummies, even with sino admixture, were hypercaucasoid due to being essentially Aurignacians.
>Earliest mummies, even with sino admixture, were hypercaucasoid due to being essentially Aurignacians.
Aurigancians looked like australian aborigines, and ASI dravidians,
Anyone has actual data about their pigmentation alleles?
>legendary figures
What "legendary figures" are those exactly?
I am Southeast Asian and/or Southern Chinese I desperately want Nordic Swedish genes to come back and reseed Central and Northern Asia, so much so I am making it my life mission, sisters. I really want Papa Putin to recapture the Baltic area, Old Prussian lands and Scandinavia to recreate the conditions of a lebensraum to import white CWC genes every where to bleach and save the planet
> I am Southeast Asian and/or Southern Chinese I desperately want Nordic Swedish genes to come…
have a nice day discord CCP bunker troony
what sector of the world would suffer if every sinoid was replaced with a Swedish teenage girl?
No one balls at the idea that asiatic Huns took over half of Europe (despite the minimal genetic legacy) so why is the reverse so hard to believe?
Because the mummies have nothing to do with Europeans.
Tocharians didn't take over china you moron. It's the reverse if anything, they got their land taken by Chinese and Turks.
>they got their land taken by Chinese and Turks.
Some Turks have light eyes and a European phenotype resulting from mixing with Tocharians and Scythians.
Yes, modern Tarim Basin population are mutts. We know that much. Tocharians culture still pretty much disappeared from history centuries ago.
>No one balls at the idea that asiatic Huns took over half of Europe (despite the minimal genetic legacy) so why is the reverse so hard to believe?
>Tocharians didn't take over china you moron. It's the reverse if anything, they got their land taken by Chinese and Turks.
the Tocharians who got conquered by Turks from Mongolia have no known relation to the much earlier Tarim mummies, a lot can change in 2000 years, the tarim were a very ANE (AMWF quapas) population with extra east eurasian admixture, unrelated to Europeans and their actual relation to tocharians is unknown
>AMWF
other way around, AM have never been on top in a society that revolved around male physicality, they only excel in feminine societies.
>extra east eurasian admixture
what does this even mean? they can modeled entirely as Aurignacian+Han and their Han is rarely above 20% and as little as 8% in some of them.
>unrelated to Europeans
nope, they are kin to the ancestors of Europeans and Europeans share over 60% of their UP ancestry with them.
I am sorry your own women are driving your people to extinction.
must really suck that Whites, as weak and decadent as they became, are still mogging you and making you look like children.
In fact, the genetics of the Tajiks themselves seem to confirm Indo-European superiority.
>A 2014 study of the maternal haplogroups of Tajiks revealed substantial admixture of West Eurasian and East Eurasian lineages, and also the presence of South Asian and North African lineages, as well.
>West Eurasian maternal lineages included haplogroups H, J, K, T, I, W and U.[61] East Eurasian lineages included haplogroups M, C, Z, D, G, A, Y and B. South Asian lineages detected in this study included haplogroups M and R. One lineage in the Tajik sample was assigned to the North African maternal haplogroup X2j.
>The dominant paternal haplogroup among modern Tajiks is the Haplogroup R1a Y-DNA. ~45% of Tajik men share R1a (M17), ~18% J (M172), ~8% R2 (M124), and ~8% C (M130 & M48). Tajiks of Panjikent score 68% R1a, Tajiks of Khojant score 64% R1a.[65] The high frequency of haplogroup R1a in the Tajiks probably reflects a strong founder effect.According to another genetic test, 63% of Tajik male samples from Tajikistan carry R1a.
R is derived from middle paleolithic P1 Y-DNA australoids from southeast Asia
White supremacists are leaches who believe they have a right to rule over other people. Biden needs to declare them illegal now.
Quite hypermongoloid looking despite
~25-30% WHG admixture in EHG
look at that awful alpine potato skull
mordvix keeps getting vindicated
>alpine
Alpha Tauri actually.
>The Tajik people show the relative highest affinity with the Tarim mummies
Probably coincidence, MA-1 and Afontova Gora type of ancestry (from which early Tarim derived ~85% of their ancestry) were some kind of ¾ West Eurasian ¼ East Eurasian basal "quapa" population like said.
Tajiks are about 25% East Eurasian between Han-like and Paniya-like ancestries, but I'm pretty sure their Tarim-like ancestry was Western Steppe Herder-mediated.
>AM
>Han
>collage with SEAs and half-East Asians like the RICED offspring Devon Aoki
Meanwhile actual East Asians scoop your very best.
>your own women are driving your people to extinction.
That's white "people" as we speak.
There were no quapas in paleolithic siberia my mestizo friend.
>Han
L O L
literally beaten up en masse by two africans kek
>very best
the very best White women are married to White chads, whereas the very best east asians will seek White sperm donors.
There is no market for east asian donors.
sorry but this is the biggest dunk on asiatics to ever exist, women can choose any man no strings attached, they ALWAYS choose White men, no matter the race of the mother.
i feel happy for the guy, but it's kind of a waste this woman is not fricking a black man
how the frick is she still more masculine than him lmfao
it's his pathetic chin, do asians have weak chins?
On average yes, though the Asian population is so large that there are literally millions of outliers.
Tarim mummies seem closest to Tlingit
I mega-lust after Big Snoo wieners Shandongxihuanbarbarianbros. Wut should I do?
Suck them like the Black you are
Here’s a Pamiri boy
this little homie worships ali. Indo-Europigs will always suffer
You live in an Indo-European world with their technology, culture and languages.
Kek
Tarim mummies were dark. The light ones are bronze age Tocharian migrants with eef admixture. They also still had mongoloid ANE cheekbones
>mongoloid ANE
They weren't mongoloid
Beauty of Loulan is one of the older mummies ones and she is brown and looks amerindian
Mordvix or Frisian schizo thread
Hardly matters now. Cross breeding with eastern populations has nearly destroyed any whiteness that might have survived.
incel please
just keep breeding with whatever pussy that comes your way and then let those children be further bleached until over generations they can reach close to 100% whitoidness
Problem solved.
All these people were wiped out or integrated into the later Turkic peoples
Turkmongic mamas like Aya wanna get bleached by runaway ex-vatBlack folk
Their haplo actually shows up in Hunnic and Gokturk elites.
It's cool to realize my Irish ancestors came from Asia, explains why Tartan designs look like Asian/Japanese designs
>tocharians/tarim mummies mentioned
>"OH MY STJ CHINA WAS A WHITE CIVILIZATION! WE WUZ EMPERORZ!!!"
Cringe
Indo Europeans introduced pastoralism and statehood to the matriarchal xanthic civilizations. Look up the yellow emperor. He was tocharian or Scythian. He is mostly remembered for bringing hemp plants to interior China
Reminder that the obviously light skinned man on the left had zero light skin alleles that's we know of. So obviously something is fricked. Any explanations?
I don't think that's true. It's an Iron Age mummy with Andronovo ancestry. We don't know if this guy was tested, but I remember the Musaeum Scythina guy making a long post about this grave site and published samples.
I think all males carried R1b-Ph155 which is the old Tarim lineage, but they were mixed.
>Andronovo ancestry
Tarim were 80% ANE and 20% East Asian.
Yes, Iron Age Tarim was at least 30% Andronovo.
Found it, this mummy is called Cherchen Man and it's from Iron Age site of Zaghunluq. There are published samples from this cemetery.
Distance to: China_Xinjiang_Zhagunluke_IA:C814
0.08746742 Uzbek
0.09287211 Bashkir
0.10488069 Tatar_Siberian
0.10889831 Hazara
0.10946198 Uygur
Distance to: China_Xinjiang_Zhagunluke_IA_Zaghunluq:C830.SG
0.08874318 Bashkir
0.10090003 Udmurt
0.10408549 Uzbek
0.10561320 Besermyan
0.10606618 Pamiri_Sarikoli
Distance to: China_Xinjiang_Zhagunluke_IA_Zaghunluq:C837
0.08009725 Pamiri_Sarikoli
0.08095907 Pamiri_Sarikoli_China
0.08731711 Pamiri_Wakhi
0.09227106 Pamiri_Badakhshan
0.09389613 Tajik_Hisor
The distance to all modern populations is very big, so they are quite different from anyone living today.
Early Tarim mummies
They have the same wide mongoloid cheekbones that can be observed on Tarim mummies and EHG reconstructions
Target: China_Xinjiang_Zhagunluke_IA_Zaghunluq:C830.SG
Distance: 2.8767% / 0.02876687
32.0 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
25.6 China_Xinjiang_Xiaohe_BA
22.0 Mongolia_North_N
20.4 Turkmenistan_Gonur_BA_1
Target: China_Xinjiang_Zhagunluke_IA_Zaghunluq:C837
Distance: 2.7697% / 0.02769671
33.8 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
26.6 China_Xinjiang_Xiaohe_BA
26.6 Turkmenistan_Gonur_BA_1
13.0 Mongolia_North_N
But there are also guys with more East Asian ancestry:
Target: China_Xinjiang_Zhagunluke_IA_Zaghunluq:C3652.SG
Distance: 4.0705% / 0.04070498
36.0 Mongolia_North_N
32.2 Russia_MLBA_Sintashta
17.8 Turkmenistan_Gonur_BA_1
14.0 China_Xinjiang_Xiaohe_BA
Test EMBA samples
No samples from Zaghunluq.
I mean CHN_Tarim_EMBA
The mummies represent at least three different races. The earliest Bronze age mummies descend from Siberian hunter gatherers who looked sort of like white people but were not from Europe.
https://www.youtube.com/live/sCRsTDXzMFo
The later Iron Age mummies of Tarim have ancestry from Indo-Europeans and also some of them are mixed with East Asians. Some of them spoke Iranic and some spoke Tocharian.
The later samples have ancestry from all neighboring populations: Sintashta, Tarim, BMAC, East Asian. They are very mixed with various proportions of these ancestries.
the creator of zen Buddhism is nicknamed the blue eyed barbarian
Not really. Post the full picture, wewuzzer. Besides that is an Uyghur mural from atleast the 9th century AD.
we wuz changs n sheit
Yes
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_nationalism
Beauty of Loulan looks like a sister of Kennewick man. Pre-LGM ANE looked australoid while mesolithic ANE looked mongoloid and or americoid.
Tarim mummies are bleached due to oxidation on the desert. You can see black hair between oxidified blond.
Peru amerindian mummy with oxidified red hair
Notice how no one responded to you? I'll repeat your comment.
>Tarim mummies are bleached due to oxidation on the desert. You can see black hair between oxidified blond.
>>The Tajik people show the relative highest affinity with the Tarim mummies
>what do you think about this?
steppe people, of the """""aryan""""" kind, and not in the nazi sense, but in the andronovo-sintashta migration sense
but perhaps there are older migrations we don't know about