Has your brain and attention span been fried by social media websites like IQfy, YouTube and similar?
Have you ever spent hours on IQfy without being able to remember ehat any of those threads were about?
How about switching tabs and immediately forgetting what you just saw?
How about mindlessly clicking on things without actually reading then?
How about getting dizzy because you scroll down with your finger and your eyes dart up to keep tracking the text that moved up but your phone didn't respond so your eyes jerked up anyway and it disorients you before you notice what happened?
Post your stories.
just close the tab moron
I was actually pretty good before I had a few extended stints of only having a smartphone. Most recently I had only a smartphone for 6 or 7 months last year because of traveling for work and other mundane reasons and my attention span is fricked up from it again, it's not even the fun kind you might have experienced on early /b/ or something were it's just durr mindless entertainment, it's actually boring as frick to not be able to concentrate on or enjoy anything, everything seems shitty, I'll want to read something I know I'd find interesting or watch something I know I'll like but just can't mentally process it. It starts to go away the longer I spend with having a full PC setup instead of just a phone at least. Actually using just a phone is pretty awful tbh, there's an anxiety that comes with being hunched over looking at a tiny screen, only being able to write a short comment in reply to something let alone do anything more involved or creative. Having a phone as a supplementary device to read or chat or watch a talk-heavy video when you've got a spare moment is fine, but expecting to get all your information and entertainment through one is bad
>How about switching tabs and immediately forgetting what you just saw?
Similarly
> open new tab
> get distracted by another thought or notification
> return to new tab
> forgot what I wanted to do
> try to retrace my though pattern to remember
Worst of all is I sometimes catch myself drafting responses to comments I haven't read to completion. I see a wall of text like read a few sentences and think about a reply and type it up. Then I catch myself and read the rest of the post and many times my would-be reply has been addressed.
Also abit of a (You) bawd since I often only watch threads to see responses to my comments and rarely read through the various threads of conversations in generals like /hsg/ which I frequent.
In brief, I'm NGMI
Now that I think about it I am surprised at how many times I was rude or a complete moron to someone because I either didn't read his post completely or I misinterpreted it. It's even worse when you are an ESL, in my case I write a long sentence that makes perfect sense to me, but when I reread it after posting there are spelling errors or it could've been more simplified. I don't think at all in English.
>>Has your brain and attention span been fried by social media websites like IQfy, YouTube and similar?
Yeah, IQfy took a heavy toll on me since I've been browsing it since I was 13 in 2011. No other place on the internet had or has the freedom this website have. Also helped me learn English more.
>>Have you ever spent hours on IQfy without being able to remember ehat any of those threads were about?
Yes, but I sometimes remember OPs and threads I posted, so I search for them in the archives. Having IQfyX also helps me.
>>How about switching tabs and immediately forgetting what you just saw?
Not immediately but I wish it happened faster, I think about this place too much to the point I have dreams where I'm browsing here.
>>How about mindlessly clicking on things without actually reading then?
A similar thing happens when I am replying, I wrote about it above.
>How about getting dizzy because you scroll down with your finger and your eyes dart up to keep tracking the text that moved up but your phone didn't respond so your eyes jerked up anyway and it disorients you before you notice what happened?
I only phonepost before going to bed, otherwise I browse it on my machine religiously for hours.
Smartphones are the worst thing to happen to human happiness since the advent of agriculture. As usual, a bunch of idiot savant eggheads release an amazing-on-paper new technology into the world without ever asking themselves what the ripple effects will be, and once it's released into the wild you can never eradicate it.
>food is bad
take your meds
there was food before the neolithic revolution, redditor
>He doesn't understand
LOL
I do spend hours here, but I have none of those problems. In fact, I'd really like to forget threads faster. I have a bad habit of thinking about them long after they're gone. I'm also not a filthy phoneposter.
>I have a bad habit of thinking about them long after they're gone
what's bad about that? You should think about what you read, otherwise it's not worth reading.
>oh man I really did say some stupid shit
all the time
i feel that my homie
> I have a bad habit of thinking about them long after they're gone.
Dont be embarassed, just roll with it bro. you are anonymous. Thats the whole fricking point of having no acvount.
is called internet addiction you dumbass
What's the cure? Side from a bullet to the head?
You would need to want to change, otherwise there is no point.
If I didn't want to change I wouldn't ask for a cure.
>internet addiction
You mean humanity evolving to be plugged in 24/7 out of sheer necessity?
yeah I used to have all those issues but honestly doing a few hours of focused reading or coding pretty much cures it.
You know you've entered a death spiral when you just cycle back and forth between IQfy, youtube and discord and at least 3 other activities that demand your undivided attention like an open book, a video game or some movie.
I've seen unironic threads on IQfy where zoomers complain they can't deal with subbed anime because it won't let them do it passively in the background like they can with video games and netflix.
Their dopamine receptors are completely fried and they don't even know it.
IQfy is not social media (social networking)
if IQfy is this bad (which it is) imagine being an instagram roastie getting simp notifications every few minutes
I bet that feels really nice, IQfy needs native notifications for (Yous)
IQfy is 100% a social media site, as much as people here like to pretend it isn't so they can act like they're above those normies with their social media obsessions
Social Media = Social Networks
It's not a Social Network. "Social Media" was a shitty catchall globohomosexual term made up to push web 3.0 features everywhere. There is no socializing or networking on this site and if there is it's
A. Technically against the global rules.
B. Against the spirit of the rules/site.
That doesn't stop the fact there are legions of newbies that don't understand what this site is for and using it as their own personal shitposting page/group/channel etc. The only boards left that resemble what IQfy is for, is slowboards.
>Definition of social media
>: forms of electronic communication (such as websites for social networking and microblogging) through which users create online communities to share information, ideas, personal messages, and other content (such as videos)
sounds like IQfy to me
lol
>no argument
>give up and type "lol"
lmao
capcha: t4p4n
IQfy isn't a community in any meaningful sense. Persistent social relationships are impossible by design here.
That's what discord is for.
Discord is for grooming.
Good luck making friends if you refuse to leave this site or connect with people outside of IQfy.
>discord
>friends
right
I would rather be friendless than use Discord or associate with the sort of person who uses Discord.
Do people really use the internet to make friends?
If you spend enough time here, you start to recognize certain posters by their writing patterns, their choice in avatars and their filename naming schemes.
>explain the modern definition of "social networks" and how it relates to the proliferation of web 3.0 i.e. why it was colloquially changed to social media to encompass every form of website
>parrot the definition back to me
You are just nuclear grade stupid
meant for
IQfy is only a social media site in the extreme, loosest definition of the word. Almost no one in practice uses the word that way. They almost always are talking about the big sites that directly tie into your real identify.
This is a cope, and an ineffective one indeed.
Yes, you don't make friends, connections, or networks on IQfy, but the only reason you come here it to talk to people and be social. It serves the same purpose as social media, but in a looser, even less formal way. Consequently, it has similar drawbacks.
Have you every wondered why Anon is so obsessed with his identity and what group he is a part of, despite no one have a name, face, or solid identity here?
>Anon is so obsessed with his identity and what group he is a part of
Considering that a sizeable amount posts here are trolls trolling trolls, no I don't think anon is particularly obsessed with his identity.
> Considering that a sizeable amount posts here are trolls trolling trolls
There was a time when this was true.
There was a time when I believed this.
Unless you're saying that bot posts drown everyone else out, it's still true.
>Anon
>Capitalized
based moron
people who have more than 1 tab open at a time do this to themselves but still claim they have superior productivity and workflow
tabbed browsing was a mistake. want to see multiple things at once? yeah its called windows. want to save stuff to read later? yeah its called bookmarks.
tabs are for people who are so poor they have to get a credit loan just to pay attention.
"technology fried my brain" no you were just moronic to begin with.
nakadashi paimon
Yeah, then my phone burned out. My internet addiction was Pavlovian with my phone, so now I'm healing. IF I get a phone again it will be a flip phone. I'm taking a lot of caution to not let that happen again on desktop:
>Browse with lynx when possible, javascript isn't needed, sites that strictly need it are to be avoided, images can be opened with feh.
>RSS feeds to tell me when webcomics youtubers and such have updated.
>No More Twitter. There is no healthy way to engage with it.
>Don't engage with the rage algoithm in any capacity: no pepejaks, no screenshot dunking, if an opinion seems like it could've been satire a few years ago, it's bait or a glow-op. If someone keeps exposing you to things they're mad at, consider if they're really worth following or not. *cough mutahar cough* Secondhand rage algorithm is still rage algorithm.
>Dump your worldview Entirely and create a text document with your political beliefs. De-bloat your worldview and keep it simple and substantiated. Even if it means being okay with groups of people you may have been trained to dislike by the algorithms.
>No more search engines unless work related or an emergency. Search engines are attention span killers too.
>Clean your desk, clean your room, make your desktop enviroment as minimalist as you can. Donate things you don't need. Pirate The Life-Changing Manga of Tidying Up. Not the book, the manga.
>Wear earplugs where there's ambient noise until you are comfortable with silence while working.
>Turn off the RGB lights on your devices.
It's hard, you WILL feel withdrawl, but we'll make it.
absolutely based post, take this anon seriously
this seems a little extreme, no?
i just avoid using my phone when going outside to relax my mind and my attention span seems normal.
Perhaps, a few of these steps felt extreme at first, but I was pretty badly addicted to my phone and couldn't focus for shit, I needed something extreme, and I think that can be said for a lot of people. These steps don't feel extreme in practice though, once you get used to them and see them as individual steps.
i don't really see how rgb has any effect on your attention span. how about hitting a full body workout couple times a week to clear your mind?
i do agree with not engaging on social media, haven't used them in over 7 ish years now
Yeah the RGB thing was something I did because 'well, that *could* be a distraction, and it doesn't really change much, might as well turn it off in case it helps.'
Thanks, that's helpful. Although I don't know if dumping search engines is really helpful. They're shit lately, that's for sure, but when you're curious about many things and you like to learn a ton, there's almost no way of doing it without one.
I try to reduce my passive engagement with things. I used to listen to audiobooks and zone out and then rewind and then zone out again. These days I prefer to read the book and take notes on anything I find interesting.
>>Dump your worldview Entirely and create a text document with your political beliefs. De-bloat your worldview and keep it simple and substantiated. Even if it means being okay with groups of people you may have been trained to dislike by the algorithms.
The classic article I read on this is "Keep Your Identity Small" if anyone is interesting in reading more about this idea.
Good advice. I've found that maintaining a habit of reading books before bed helps a lot as well.
wth are you reading...
It's from a light novel called Mushoku Tensei. It caused a bit of a stir in the west because the protagonist is a 34 y.o. dude in the body of a young boy who had consensual, baby-making sex with a 15 y.o. girl. Nothing unusual by Japanese standards.
the protagonist is a literal pedophile by western culture standards.
still a fantastic series, despite the MC. i do have to
pedophile training material
very good post anon but still a bit on the nose. can become a dangerous weapon if you refine it a bit more.
we get it, zoomer. you live in le high tech low life metaverse reality. just stop your bullshit edgy cyburpunk larp and you will be fine. unironically touch grass. sheessh frfr no cap
Be empathetic
I should mention, yes I was on a normal web browser when I posted this. Eventually you can trust yourself to *a limited list of sites* you feel you can trust yourself with *on a timer for no more than 2 hours*. An ex-alcoholic can drink a little bit without a relapse as long as they are *very cautious.*
>Be empathetic
>Checks what website I'm currently on
Are you able to ignore your phone when it's alerting you to a new message? This is how I find out if people are addicted. Putting away IQfy is easy once you realize that most posts are made by bots (this is true for most "social" media).
this is me
my attention span is dead
I need the constant drip feed of monkey dopamine
I honestly can't focus on anything. Unless I overcome it and I like doing it, then I can do whatever for hours on end. But stuff like university essays, I've one due in -4 days.
You lack impulse control. It also sounds like you are sleep deprived or you have the coof.
You aren't committing things to memory because nothing you do all day is interesting enough to internalize.
Just spend a minimum of 10 minutes doing mindfulness meditation every day.
a lot of posts shitting on phones
fine, but does that mean desktop isn't so bad?
Usually it's the fact that you can walk away from your desktop and that they aren't as notification driven at least traditionally.
Like, when was the last time you took a phoneless shit?
uh...
i've never used my phone while taking a shit
Color me surprised then. It's wildly common to bemoan not having your phone while shitting. What else do you do, read the back of labels?
I time my shits so that I go when I'm stuck on a problem. Then either I mull it over or contemplate existence if I really have nothing better to do. Sometimes I'll replay funny moments in my head.
In the future everyone will be on adderall to combat this.
We're talking years down the line though, there's still a long way to go. Countries besides the US have a big stigma attached with prescription stimulants. Eventually they'll be forced to concede out of pure necessity though as populaces become less and less productive over time.
The current meme drugs that everyone gets put on, SSRIs, do absolutely nothing in terms of helping executive function. There needs to be a shift to normalising prescription amphetamines the same way otherwise we'll end up with a situation where the majority of people can't hold on to a single though-train for more than a few seconds / minutes. I suppose many would argue that's what those in power want however.
>website blockers
>read books (the classics)
>exercise/lift
>sunlight
>cold showers
>nofap
>nodrugs
>daily meditation
>at least one creative hobby
>hiking in nature
>build a social life
>have sex
>voila no more brain damage
It's that easy. Basically just don't be a pleb.
I almost thought my brain was getting fricked up by scrolling on social media but then I realized I have ADHD and it was the only thing keeping me sane
Here I am wondering whether I've used computers too much and it damaged my attention span or I have ADHD and therefore were drawn to the easy (and low quality) source of dopamine that a computer is.
it definitely was the second one, back before smartphones existed being bored outside was hell
I know i have adhd, since i got it directly from my dad. dont get how there's so many people with adhd that didnt get it hereditary. unless they're lying homosexuals.
Haven't seen people claiming their parents definitely didn't have it. Usually it's kind of the other way around, people saying they're sure they got it after some parent but the parent wouldn't accept the idea.
nah ur just low IQ like a typical girl, anonette
I think it's Medaka Box.
Anons don't fall into the trap of reading a bunch of self-help books on productivity and mindfulness and being more social or logical or confident. When you read, act on the advice! It's a trap in n of itself how you sometimes feel accomplished from just reading the book but actually doing nothing.
ywnbaw chud
Honestly for a lot of people just getting through a book would be a massive accomplishment.
good morning sirs, i hate the antichrist.
No if anything I have become smarter directly due to the sharing of knowledge across the world found on IQfy
Without this board I would still be a statistic in the ghetto
>Social media
mmmmm rap snitch knishes
I dunno most of the internet is straight up unusable to me so I assume I don't have this problem as bad as a typical person. IQfy definitely is distracting though. I will concede that.
I'm quitting most of the internet on June 2nd. Including this site.
See you on the 3rd.
Okay, crab.
What is there to do without internet?
Even non-internet activities are pretty much dependent on information or services which are only available online now.
Read a book, play an instrument (sure pirating sheet music is handy but it's not like you have to), etc.
I said most not all. If I need information on something or want to download a game, book, or show I'll do it. I mean things like IQfy or following youtubers.
>following youtubers
I do like IQfy, but definitely for the love of god don't follow youtubers.
It's an addiction for sure, I feel it.
I wake up in the morning, my first instinct is to pick up my phone and check my email. I turn on my PC, I naturally check in to see what the idiots in IQfy are up to. When I browse sites I rarely read an entire article, my browser constantly has 10-20 different tabs open of articles I *plan* to read but I usually read maybe 1/4 of them before closing them days later. When I do read articles I tend to skim them looking for key points before moving on rather than actually taking the time to properly digest them. When I'm away from the PC I look at my phone pretty regularly. If I have no notifications Google's news feed of clickbait is one swipe away from the home screen, those fricking bastards.
It wasn't always this way. Ten years ago I would have made fun of someone who was what I am now. I thought I was cautious but it happened anyway. I am trying to fight it though. I've set myself an absolute cutoff time in the evening for PC use after which I only read physical books, and only fiction after another cutoff point. Of course, it's still difficult not to reach for the phone even after the PC cutoff time, but I'm working on it. Soon I think I'll set myself daytime limits as well.
Literally all of those
and literally having backlogs of threads from IQfy and other sites, and articles that I dont read yet but everyday add more to
its like the next day only interested in new threads/articles and not finishing the backlog of previous ones so it just grows and grows and now I have 1,437 tabs........
also this similar to what you described- https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=continuous+partial+attention
Also constant FOMO too.
And I can't meditate as well as I used to, getting distracted and irritated. Ability for single pointed, fixed, long term concentration is definitely FRICKED
>find myself constantly switching between IQfy tabs on different threads
>even while reading articles on other sites
>just constant "multitasking" of multiple tabs and constant switching attention/task
Aaaaaa
>lose hours reading something that is super interesting till 1-2AM
>don't finish reading it all, lots of threads or articles or wiki pages
>go to sleep exhausted
>wake up, no interest in reading about the thing anymore at all even though its unfinished but dont wanna delete all that tabs so keep them on "for later" or bookmark them
apparently an ADHD thing I read, idk if I have innate ADHD or internet-induced though, didn't used to be like this
Maybe I have ADD, i keep picking up browser tabs full of things I want to sink my teeth into later but I just keep adding more and more shit to the queue, rarely going back to them and I've been doing this for 10 years, starting over occasionally.
I don't think I've ever finished a single anime or video game over 20 hours in length or this reason.
go on adderall i guess
is it an adhd thing to befriend someone online because both of you have the same tastes or similar, then you lose touch of what you liked and don't want to be friends anymore with that person so you delete them and avoid/get away from them? i have a serious problem having friendships on steam because of that, and I already deleted two friends whom i had consideration but felt out of place when talking to them after some months.
>befriend someone online
online 'relationships' arent real
At least they fill the empty pit in my chest
quads of loneliness
I was about to ask why did you make another thread with the same text and image from yesterday but then I saw that I already replied to this thread. This place made me moronic.
test
Squandered dopamine receptors is some kind of crazy meme. if you squandered them, then something was behind this, first of all, mental disorders, poor control (ADHD), a non-adaptive psychic. Mentally healthy people study quietly, work, read books, communicate
When I was in a psychiatric hospita, one brake at a behavior schizophrenic every day without stopping constantly read books, and at that he was given antipsychotics. At home, he also constantly reads books, talked to other people very consistently. Why can't I and can't read more than 20 pages???
I'm fairly certain you can read Hunger Games/Twilight/Harry Potter - tier books and that's enough proof that your brain is working.
Maybe writing will teach you how to read harder stuff?
I think we also need to ask why you can't write a paragraph that is readible.
>I think we also need to ask why you can't write a paragraph that is readible.
It's absolutely an addiction anon, for me it's just my phone in general.
Browsing about an absolutely random topic, going from video to video on youtube... In the end, you've lost 3h where you have done nothing productive and you don't even know how you lost them.
Also yes, my attention span is fricked. I got a dumbphone but even then I have family that live in another country and regularly talk with them through signal or whatsapp, so I need to keep a smartphone.
I don't have Internet addiction, I just have nothing to do and bored. I don't see any worsening of my life quality since when I have something interesting to do, I completely forget about shitposting or scrolling.
My brain damage is that I empathize a lot more with people posting cute anime faces. Like I fell more compelled to read your post because of paimon despite my usual inclination to think that everyone including myself on this site is trash.
Does anybody have sound hypersensitivity? I would love to work in silence or ambience but it's soo fricking damn loud in suburban england. Barking dogs, revving cars, moron yobos shouting outside, DIY sounds. etc...
I'm not sure if it has always been like this? Maybe my technology damaged brain is getting worse. But I get really distracted by any sound. As a result, I have to listen to music pretty loud like 24/7, I think that's in turn exacerbating my attention span issues.
earbuds anon
homie please.
i lived in a shithole neighborhood a few years ago whose decadent residents thought it was ok to blast music so loud my closed windows would shake. popped these lil homies in and could even sleep. cant live without them anymore
>Does anybody have sound hypersensitivity?
I'm an aspie, that stuff is horrible.
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