this, those high end models are just resistive heaters, they are barely more powerful
same with the 4090 see picrel.
Shit could be cheaper, due not need moronly oversized power rails and refrigeration, but here we are
whoa, and all it took for this 4% increase in performance was three and a quarter times more power consumption than it's rival. Bravo Intel! Tel Aviv rejoices.
Why does the intel system have better RAM? Even if the AMD system required running it at lower frequency due to Infinity Fabric, it would still benefit from lower CAS latency. The Intel system should be running at C38 to make it equal.
7800X3D doing better than 7950X3D is just a scheduler issue imo. If you use processlass or something to disable hyperthread on 7950X3D, it will likely outperform 7800X3D
Also similarly, it can be fixed with bios tinkering a bit. Its related to ANOTHER windows scheduler that chooses higher clocking cores, which for the 7950X3D, are not the X3D cores but the non-X3D cores. X3D cores are set to few hundred Mhz lower than non X3D cores thus windows either doesn't use it or assigns lower priority tasks to it.
My point is Intel doesn't win. Der Bauer can frick himself, he's a filthy fricking israelite shill. He used the wrong processor AND wrong ram to compare.
Also, it's really no surprise he's sucking israelite wiener, germans are gonna be licking israelite buttholes for 1000 years because Hitler couldn't finish the job.
7950X3D should have 144 MB of cache while 7800X3D should have 80 MB.
7950X3D also has 16 real cores vs 7800X3D's fake cores. So if you prioritize the scheduling to the 8X3D cores, while leaving the 8 regular cores for offloading, it should be faster.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>7800X3D's fake cores
what?
2 months ago
Anonymous
Wrong, the cache pools are completely separate. They are not homogeneous. Any attempts to access cache pool on the second CCD will incur latency penalty on top of not even operating at the same clockspeed.
There is a reason why you need to force gaming threads to operate on the same CCD.
Also similarly, it can be fixed with bios tinkering a bit. Its related to ANOTHER windows scheduler that chooses higher clocking cores, which for the 7950X3D, are not the X3D cores but the non-X3D cores. X3D cores are set to few hundred Mhz lower than non X3D cores thus windows either doesn't use it or assigns lower priority tasks to it.
7800X3D and 7950X3D have identical gaming performance if OS scheduler isn't moronic and keeps gaming threads on the V-Cache CCD.
>Wangblows gimping the best AMD CPU to make it look worse than it is
Winsirs.....
Interesting. I will see what capping my max frequency to 2500 does (if anything) for me. Then again I am running a 4k 240hz so in games that aren't fps capped by the engine my XTX seems to always be hitting the 350w power limit to push as many frames as it can. I'm not expecting much but that is why I asked as a point of reference.
Thanks to the high power consumption of the Intel processor,
it can also serve as a space heater, allowing gamers and content creators to stay warm during the cold winter months without spending valuable time getting up from the chair and walking to turn on a heater. Another win for Intel, it's over for AMD.
Its funny watching all the shintel cope going on over power usage as if its not a big deal when not that long ago they used to shit on amd nonstop for using more power. Oh how the c-states have turned.
A succinct visual representation of diminishing returns
this, those high end models are just resistive heaters, they are barely more powerful
same with the 4090 see picrel.
Shit could be cheaper, due not need moronly oversized power rails and refrigeration, but here we are
based
frick all this green energy bullshit
we go full power
just like the glorious Israel
shalom!
At this point we really need to start focusing on efficiency in terms of ppw and pricing and temps
who gives a shit about power consumption except yuropoors
if anything we need more power sick of these c**ts putting so many limits on shit
>who gives a shit about power consumption except yuropoors
try using a 300w cpu in Arizona
more power usually comes with more heating
1.006x the speed for only 3.16x more power? what a steal
>Intel Cope i9 262W House Fire™
>AyyyMD "fire extinguisher red" 82W Cryzon is finished
Pick one!
>almost 400W
>instantly thermal throttles
>on a 360 AIO
WTF? This is so fricking moronic this is almost sad.
>a gpu heavy game isn't magically turned into a speed machine by a cpu
>oh no no no [corporation]bros
>muh AIO
whoa, and all it took for this 4% increase in performance was three and a quarter times more power consumption than it's rival. Bravo Intel! Tel Aviv rejoices.
Yeah, totally make sense to deal with 3x the power consumption and heat to gain 1fps over the 7950X3D. Bravo, Jintel.
>7900 xtx (uv + uc)
Post what you've got it clocked to and the power target.
AMAZING BREAKTHROUGH IN CPUS
ZEN IS A LIE, ZEN IS A LIE, SEN IS A LIE...........
oh, I replied to you by accident. I was mean to quote the OP.
It's the Pentium 4 vs. Athlon 64 all over again
It's been Pentium 4 since the i9-9900KS. Intel strategy is consistent here.
Who exactly is the KS variant targeted towards? The I buy whatever the most expensive "sort by price" folks?
arsonists
morons (same people who buy apple products)
Why does the intel system have better RAM? Even if the AMD system required running it at lower frequency due to Infinity Fabric, it would still benefit from lower CAS latency. The Intel system should be running at C38 to make it equal.
80 watts jesus christ. AMD is really fricking ahead of Intel's 260 watt garbage.
i hear that its a nightmare to setup a AMD cpu / motherboard so ive always gone intel
i hear that its a nightmare to setup a AMD cpu / motherboard so ive always gone intel
The 7800X3D does better than the 7950X3D btw. Intel still loses. Note the FPS difference with different RAM too.
7800X3D doing better than 7950X3D is just a scheduler issue imo. If you use processlass or something to disable hyperthread on 7950X3D, it will likely outperform 7800X3D
Also similarly, it can be fixed with bios tinkering a bit. Its related to ANOTHER windows scheduler that chooses higher clocking cores, which for the 7950X3D, are not the X3D cores but the non-X3D cores. X3D cores are set to few hundred Mhz lower than non X3D cores thus windows either doesn't use it or assigns lower priority tasks to it.
My point is Intel doesn't win. Der Bauer can frick himself, he's a filthy fricking israelite shill. He used the wrong processor AND wrong ram to compare.
Also, it's really no surprise he's sucking israelite wiener, germans are gonna be licking israelite buttholes for 1000 years because Hitler couldn't finish the job.
>He used the wrong processor AND wrong ram to compare
you're holding it wrong: CPU edition
7800X3D and 7950X3D have identical gaming performance if OS scheduler isn't moronic and keeps gaming threads on the V-Cache CCD.
7950X3D should have 144 MB of cache while 7800X3D should have 80 MB.
7950X3D also has 16 real cores vs 7800X3D's fake cores. So if you prioritize the scheduling to the 8X3D cores, while leaving the 8 regular cores for offloading, it should be faster.
>7800X3D's fake cores
what?
Wrong, the cache pools are completely separate. They are not homogeneous. Any attempts to access cache pool on the second CCD will incur latency penalty on top of not even operating at the same clockspeed.
There is a reason why you need to force gaming threads to operate on the same CCD.
>Wangblows gimping the best AMD CPU to make it look worse than it is
Winsirs.....
RAM speeds I think?
Interesting. I will see what capping my max frequency to 2500 does (if anything) for me. Then again I am running a 4k 240hz so in games that aren't fps capped by the engine my XTX seems to always be hitting the 350w power limit to push as many frames as it can. I'm not expecting much but that is why I asked as a point of reference.
I AM THE GOD OF HELLFIRE
rolling coal for nerds
>oced in both cpu and RAM
>still slower than AMD's mid range cpu
seriously what is the purpose of this cpu? especially since after 6 months it will start degrading unless you apply power limits.
Humiliation ritual for intel fanboys who only buy Intel
>seriously what is the purpose of this cpu?
To give ueserbenchmark even more delicious reviews.
halo product to claim they "beat" AMD
>games
dont care moron
youre shit cant even run an llm
Thanks to the high power consumption of the Intel processor,
it can also serve as a space heater, allowing gamers and content creators to stay warm during the cold winter months without spending valuable time getting up from the chair and walking to turn on a heater. Another win for Intel, it's over for AMD.
>7600 c36 vs 6000 c30
huh
>RAM speeds I think?
Sorry my brain shut off.
It's an unfair comparison but I think they're trying to show off the better cache.
Its funny watching all the shintel cope going on over power usage as if its not a big deal when not that long ago they used to shit on amd nonstop for using more power. Oh how the c-states have turned.