The Atlantic selects "The Great American Novels"

Thoughts?

https://www.theatlantic.com/books/archive/2024/03/best-books-american-fiction/677479/

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ain’t clicking that. Post the list

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >durr hurr I'm a lazy moron who can't click a link or has bullshit reasons for not "supporting" websites

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The Atlantic caps your "free articles" per month or something. It might be hidden behind a paywall.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'm pretty sure that was not the anon's motive for complaining, but here is the archived link

          https://archive.is/B1Iti

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The Great Gatsby -- F. Scott Fitzgerald
      An American Tragedy -- Theodore Dreiser
      The Making of Americans -- Gertrude Stein
      Death Comes for the Archbishop -- Willa Cather
      A Farewell to Arms -- Ernest Hemingway
      The Sound and the Fury -- William Faulkner
      Absalom, Absalom! -- William Faulkner
      Nightwood -- Djuna Barnes
      East Goes West -- Younghill Kang
      Their Eyes Were Watching God -- Zora Neale Hurston
      U.S.A. -- John Dos Passos
      Ask the Dust -- John Fante
      The Big Sleep -- Raymond Chandler
      The Day of the Locust -- Nathanael West
      The Grapes of Wrath -- John Steinbeck
      Native Son -- Richard Wright
      The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter -- Carson McCullers
      A Time to Be Born -- Dawn Powell
      All the King’s Men -- Robert Penn Warren
      In a Lonely Place -- Dorothy B. Hughes
      The Mountain Lion -- Jean Stafford
      The Catcher in the Rye -- J. D. Salinger
      Charlotte’s Web -- E. B. White
      Invisible Man -- Ralph Ellison
      Fahrenheit 451 -- Ray Bradbury
      Maud Martha -- Gwendolyn Brooks
      The Adventures of Augie March -- Saul Bellow
      e-girlta -- Vladimir Nabokov
      Giovanni’s Room -- James Baldwin
      Peyton Place -- Grace Metalious
      Deep Water -- Patricia Highsmith
      On the Road -- Jack Kerouac
      The Haunting of Hill House -- Shirley Jackson
      Catch-22 -- Joseph Heller
      A Wrinkle in Time -- Madeleine L'Engle
      Another Country -- James Baldwin

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest -- Ken Kesey
        Pale Fire -- Vladimir Nabokov
        The Zebra-Striped Hearse -- Ross Macdonald
        The Bell Jar -- Sylvia Plath
        The Group -- Mary McCarthy
        The Crying of Lot 49 -- Thomas Pynchon
        A Sport and a Pastime -- James Salter
        Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? -- Philip K. Dick
        Divorcing -- Susan Taubes
        Portnoy’s Complaint -- Philip Roth
        Slaughterhouse-Five -- Kurt Vonnegut
        Are You There God? It’s Me, Margaret -- Judy Blume
        Desperate Characters -- Paula Fox
        Play It as It Lays -- Joan Didion
        Log of the S.S. The Mrs Unguentine -- Stanley Crawford
        Mumbo Jumbo -- Ishmael Reed
        The Revolt of the wienerroach People -- Oscar Zeta Acosta
        The Dispossessed -- Ursula K. Le Guin
        Winter in the Blood -- James Welch
        Corregidora -- Gayl Jones
        Speedboat -- Renata Adler
        Ceremony -- Leslie Marmon Silko
        Song of Solomon -- Toni Morrison
        A Contract With God -- Will Eisner
        Dancer From the Dance -- Andrew Holleran
        The Stand -- Stephen King
        Kindred -- Octavia E. Butler
        The Dog of the South -- Charles Portis
        Housekeeping -- Marilynne Robinson
        The Salt Eaters -- Toni Cade Bambara
        Little, Big: Or, the Fairies’ Parliament -- John Crowley
        Oxherding Tale -- Charles Johnson
        Machine Dreams -- Jayne Anne Phillips
        Blood Meridian -- Cormac McCarthy
        A Summons to Memphis -- Peter Taylor
        Watchmen -- Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons
        Dawn -- Octavia E. Butler
        Geek Love -- Katherine Dunn
        Tripmaster Monkey -- Maxine Hong Kingston
        Dogeaters -- Jessica Hagedorn
        American Psycho -- Bret Easton Ellis
        How the García Girls Lost Their Accents -- Julia Alvarez
        Bastard Out of Carolina -- Dorothy Allison
        The Secret History -- Donna Tartt
        So Far From God -- Ana Castillo
        Stone Butch Blues -- Leslie Feinberg
        The Shipping News -- Annie Proulx
        Native Speaker -- Chang-rae Lee
        Sabbath’s Theater -- Philip Roth
        Under the Feet of Jesus -- Helena María Viramontes
        Infinite Jest -- David Foster Wallace
        I Love Dick -- Chris Kraus
        Underworld -- Don DeLillo
        The Intuitionist -- Colson Whitehead
        Blonde -- Joyce Carol Oates
        House of Leaves -- Mark Z. Danielewski
        The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay -- Michael Chabon
        The Last Samurai -- Helen DeWitt
        The Quick and the Dead -- Joy Williams

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Erasure -- Percival Everett
          I, the Divine -- Rabih Alameddine
          The Corrections -- Jonathan Franzen
          Caramelo -- Sandra Cisneros
          Perma Red -- Debra Magpie Earling
          The Russian Debutante’s Handbook -- Gary Shteyngart
          The Namesake -- Jhumpa Lahiri
          Veronica -- Mary Gaitskill
          The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao -- Junot Díaz
          A Visit From the Goon Squad -- Jennifer Egan
          I Hotel -- Karen Tei Yamashita
          Salvage the Bones -- Jesmyn Ward
          The Round House -- Louise Erdrich
          Americanah -- Chimamanda Ngozi Adichi
          A Brief History of Seven Killings -- Marlon James
          Family Life -- Akhil Sharma
          Fates and Furies -- Lauren Groff
          The Fifth Season -- N. K. Jemisin
          The Sellout -- Paul Beatty
          The Sympathizer -- Viet Thanh Nguyen
          Amiable With Big Teeth -- Claude McKay
          Lincoln in the Bardo -- George Saunders
          There There -- Tommy Orange
          Lost Children Archive -- Valeria Luiselli
          Nothing to See Here -- Kevin Wilson
          The Old Drift -- Namwali Serpell
          No One Is Talking About This -- Patricia Lockwood
          The Love Songs of W. E. B. Du Bois -- Honorée Fanonne Jeffers
          Biography of X -- Catherine Lacey

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest -- Ken Kesey
            Pale Fire -- Vladimir Nabokov
            The Zebra-Striped Hearse -- Ross Macdonald
            The Bell Jar -- Sylvia Plath
            The Group -- Mary McCarthy
            The Crying of Lot 49 -- Thomas Pynchon
            A Sport and a Pastime -- James Salter
            Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? -- Philip K. Dick
            Divorcing -- Susan Taubes
            Portnoy’s Complaint -- Philip Roth
            Slaughterhouse-Five -- Kurt Vonnegut
            Are You There God? It’s Me, Margaret -- Judy Blume
            Desperate Characters -- Paula Fox
            Play It as It Lays -- Joan Didion
            Log of the S.S. The Mrs Unguentine -- Stanley Crawford
            Mumbo Jumbo -- Ishmael Reed
            The Revolt of the wienerroach People -- Oscar Zeta Acosta
            The Dispossessed -- Ursula K. Le Guin
            Winter in the Blood -- James Welch
            Corregidora -- Gayl Jones
            Speedboat -- Renata Adler
            Ceremony -- Leslie Marmon Silko
            Song of Solomon -- Toni Morrison
            A Contract With God -- Will Eisner
            Dancer From the Dance -- Andrew Holleran
            The Stand -- Stephen King
            Kindred -- Octavia E. Butler
            The Dog of the South -- Charles Portis
            Housekeeping -- Marilynne Robinson
            The Salt Eaters -- Toni Cade Bambara
            Little, Big: Or, the Fairies’ Parliament -- John Crowley
            Oxherding Tale -- Charles Johnson
            Machine Dreams -- Jayne Anne Phillips
            Blood Meridian -- Cormac McCarthy
            A Summons to Memphis -- Peter Taylor
            Watchmen -- Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons
            Dawn -- Octavia E. Butler
            Geek Love -- Katherine Dunn
            Tripmaster Monkey -- Maxine Hong Kingston
            Dogeaters -- Jessica Hagedorn
            American Psycho -- Bret Easton Ellis
            How the García Girls Lost Their Accents -- Julia Alvarez
            Bastard Out of Carolina -- Dorothy Allison
            The Secret History -- Donna Tartt
            So Far From God -- Ana Castillo
            Stone Butch Blues -- Leslie Feinberg
            The Shipping News -- Annie Proulx
            Native Speaker -- Chang-rae Lee
            Sabbath’s Theater -- Philip Roth
            Under the Feet of Jesus -- Helena María Viramontes
            Infinite Jest -- David Foster Wallace
            I Love Dick -- Chris Kraus
            Underworld -- Don DeLillo
            The Intuitionist -- Colson Whitehead
            Blonde -- Joyce Carol Oates
            House of Leaves -- Mark Z. Danielewski
            The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay -- Michael Chabon
            The Last Samurai -- Helen DeWitt
            The Quick and the Dead -- Joy Williams

            The Great Gatsby -- F. Scott Fitzgerald
            An American Tragedy -- Theodore Dreiser
            The Making of Americans -- Gertrude Stein
            Death Comes for the Archbishop -- Willa Cather
            A Farewell to Arms -- Ernest Hemingway
            The Sound and the Fury -- William Faulkner
            Absalom, Absalom! -- William Faulkner
            Nightwood -- Djuna Barnes
            East Goes West -- Younghill Kang
            Their Eyes Were Watching God -- Zora Neale Hurston
            U.S.A. -- John Dos Passos
            Ask the Dust -- John Fante
            The Big Sleep -- Raymond Chandler
            The Day of the Locust -- Nathanael West
            The Grapes of Wrath -- John Steinbeck
            Native Son -- Richard Wright
            The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter -- Carson McCullers
            A Time to Be Born -- Dawn Powell
            All the King’s Men -- Robert Penn Warren
            In a Lonely Place -- Dorothy B. Hughes
            The Mountain Lion -- Jean Stafford
            The Catcher in the Rye -- J. D. Salinger
            Charlotte’s Web -- E. B. White
            Invisible Man -- Ralph Ellison
            Fahrenheit 451 -- Ray Bradbury
            Maud Martha -- Gwendolyn Brooks
            The Adventures of Augie March -- Saul Bellow
            e-girlta -- Vladimir Nabokov
            Giovanni’s Room -- James Baldwin
            Peyton Place -- Grace Metalious
            Deep Water -- Patricia Highsmith
            On the Road -- Jack Kerouac
            The Haunting of Hill House -- Shirley Jackson
            Catch-22 -- Joseph Heller
            A Wrinkle in Time -- Madeleine L'Engle
            Another Country -- James Baldwin

            >No Moby Dick
            The Atlantic has gone woke

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > The Stand -- Stephen King
          Bro what? Best books includes horror sloppa? I mean include The Shining if you want some plausible deniability.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Stone Butch Blues -- Leslie Feinberg
          oof

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Too much genre fiction shit (including Stephen King lmao). And also fricking comics for some reason. Everything after 2000 is terrible. Bad list.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I heard it cucked and bent the knee for diversity points. No surprise there. The Atlantic hasn't been a bastion for quality literature in a while. Sure in the 20th century they published first many famous short stories by many famous authors, some of IQfy's favorites, but they cucked out and bent the knee a long time ago.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Way too many women
    A bong
    A Jamaican
    Too many colored

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You have the depth of a teaspoon and the sophistication of a farmer.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Watchmen
    The Stand
    NK Jesmin

    Really surprised Twilight didn’t make the list

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So Charlotte’s Web, Fahrenheit 451 and some bullshit by a Jamaican Black but not Moby Dick? LOL

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I’m not exactly understanding why it only even starts in the 1920s

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >The Atlantic
    woke publication. Their opinions hold no merit as surely everything they write and publish is meant to push a globalist agenda against white men. I wouldn't trust anything the Atlantic publishes any more than I would trust an article from Jezebel or Vice.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Odd choice for Pynchon Mason and Dixon or Gravity’s Rainbow were more magnum opus than Lot 49

    Also odd choice for Updike
    Rabbit Run seemed the more likely choice for a list like this

    No Naked Lunch or Tropic of Cancer

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >three books by Toni Morrison
    >33% of the titles came out within the past 24 years
    This list is indefensibly shit. Even if one were to admit Toni Morrison were a good author, does she really deserve to take up 3% of the total list? No one at The Atlantic said:
    >hey what if we just picked one Toni Morrison book out of her oeuvre and used the free spaces for other authors?
    No. Multiple people at The Atlantic made the choice to have not two, but three different Toni Morrison books, all of which touch on the same exact themes.

    And the recent titles are ridiculous. Especially considering one book is from 2023. I bet The Atlantic stands to make some profit off the sales of these recently published books. I wouldn't be surprised if some of those authors work at The Atlantic.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >When you buy a book using a link on this page, we receive a commission. Thank you for supporting The Atlantic.
      You figured it out. The Atlantic really should put disclaimer this at the top of the page, not the bottom.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm reading the synopses of all these 21st century books, and you know what they all sound like? They sound like the sob stories people use to get the golden buzzer on those awful _____'s Got Talent tv shows.
        >black teenager living with alcoholic father in the bayou after hurricane Katrina
        >13 year old's mother is raped on an Indian reservation
        >Indian family moves to New York and older brother brains himself diving in a swimming pool and becomes a vegetable
        I cant wait for this age of victimhood to come to an end. As if no one has anything worth saying unless they have heaps and heaps of misfortune piled up on top of them. So all the NPCs can get together and condencendingly say in a sympathetic voice "oh, you've overcome sooooo much!" and hit the golden buzzer of virtue signaling to make ourselves feel better.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I cant wait for this age of victimhood to come to an end
          This is like saying in 500AD that you can't wait for Constantinople to collapse. This shit is here to stay for a while.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          LOL this is the only thing that agents will sign, the only thing that editors will, and the only thing that marketers know how to work with. You could have written that post ten years ago and it's only gotten WORSE since then not better - you're in for a lot more of it

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    These includes books by non-Americans:
    Vladimir Nabokov - Russian
    Marlon James - Jamaican
    Junot Diaz - Dominican
    Chimamda whatever the frick - Nigerian
    Akhil Sharma - Indian
    Chang-Rae Lee - Korean
    Jhumpa Lahiri - British
    Valeria Luiselli - Mexican

    None of these people were born in the United States. So why include them?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Namwali Serpell - Zambian
      Viet Thanh Nguyen - Vietnamese

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Um, America is a nation of immigrants sweatie.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Oh boy I wonder if this list will be full of women and black people and random new books that haven't even made a footprint on history yet

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >three books by Toni Morrison
      >33% of the titles came out within the past 24 years
      This list is indefensibly shit. Even if one were to admit Toni Morrison were a good author, does she really deserve to take up 3% of the total list? No one at The Atlantic said:
      >hey what if we just picked one Toni Morrison book out of her oeuvre and used the free spaces for other authors?
      No. Multiple people at The Atlantic made the choice to have not two, but three different Toni Morrison books, all of which touch on the same exact themes.

      And the recent titles are ridiculous. Especially considering one book is from 2023. I bet The Atlantic stands to make some profit off the sales of these recently published books. I wouldn't be surprised if some of those authors work at The Atlantic.

      >new books that haven't even made a footprint on history yet
      This. How can something be considered a great novel if it hasnt influenced any writers?

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Last I checked Alan Moore was a bong
    And a commie homosexual to boot

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Junot ‘La Violacion” Diaz made the list
    William Gaddis did not

    This country needs cleansing

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Chimamanda Ooga Booga, a Nigerian, made the list but not Herman Melville.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The list starts at 1923. It wasn't like they were trying their best not to include it.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >A Wrinkle in Time
    >The Haunting of Hill House
    >Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep
    >The Stand
    >Watchmen
    >American Psycho
    >Infinite Jest
    >House of Leaves
    There are lots of titles on this list I disagree with but these titles in particular are just embarassing. Might as well include Harry Fricking Potter or Twilight.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The Haunting of Hill House
      Kino, just not GAN material.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Infinite Jest is the (singular) Great American Novel. Develop some taste

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      jk rolling is australian tho

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They should get rid of all the sci-fi shite and get some westerns in there
    Lonesome Dove
    Butcher’s Crossing
    Warlock
    True Grit
    Hombre
    Westerns are a million times more American than that autistic sci fi shite

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Confederacy of Dunces did not make the list.
    Did the gatekeepers finally realize that Ignatius was a proto IQfyizen?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I dislike The Great Gatsby.

    Granted, I'm no novelist or professional literary critic. I read The Call of the Wild twice and the first time I never realized the protagonist was a dog. But I remember The Great Gatsby being so pointless. Tess of the d'Urbervilles, great. The Catcher in the Rye, good. The Great Gatsby; it's just some pointless story about a sulking, self-absorbed rich prick.

    Did anyone have a similar impression reading it and have their opinion of it improve after a re-read?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How old are you and what is your life experience?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        35 and I don't know. I'll probably die one year before they start offering to upload people onto GPUs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's a great novel and deserves a place on the list. Most people focus on Gatsby and less on Nick but I think Nick is the most interesting character in the book. He's a self-righteous hypocrite who observes -- with enjoyment, I suspect -- moral decadence like a spectacle. That alone makes him culpable, but he goes further and actively enables Gatsby and Tom and Daisy. Every time I hear preaching and ranting about moral or cultural decay I think of him and wonder, "Well what are you doing about it other than talking about it?"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the first time I never realized the protagonist was a dog

      It is amazing you are able to post on this website, I want to study you

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I was in grade school at the time, had ADD, and probably read through it quickly just to get the points for a Pizza Hut pizza. It's pretty amazing that I was able to pass the 10 question test though.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Any science fiction on the list?

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why are there authors who aren't from the USA?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because America only exists because of immigration and diversity is our strength you stupid chud

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I did not see a single thing from before like 1920. ""They"" [the Shadow Hand] wish to deracinate modern Americans from their roots because they wish to do away with those roots. A very poor list with far too many women on it (no offense ladies, but I don't need inside your heads for that long).

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/6r5nt8f.jpg

      [...]
      [...]
      >No Moby Dick
      The Atlantic has gone woke

      Yeah I’m not exactly understanding why it only even starts in the 1920s

      A board full of “readers” can’t even skim an article and retain key information.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        gen z might not be able to read very well but they sure can cry about things being "woke"

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You mean like you're crying right now, because we don't like your shitty list? Have fun reading 50 shitty books written by women, another 25 written by homosexuals, 15 by anti-American migrants, and the remaining 10 by atheist "thinkers."

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody clicked the link
        The list is shit

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I’m not an idiot who can’t read an article!
          >I’m the idiot who comments after reading only the headline!
          Wow you got me.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I’m not an idiot who can’t read an article!
          >I’m the idiot who comments after reading only the headline!
          Wow you got me.

          Did the Atlantic contact Max Lawton regarding this list?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I read more than you, homosexual. I just looked at the list. I don't give a shit about the Atlantic or its articles. Either way, my points stand. Shit list.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Biblioklept's list:

    https://biblioklept.org/2024/03/14/an-alternative-list-to-the-atlantics-the-great-american-novels-list-part-i-1924-1974/

    https://biblioklept.org/2024/03/15/an-alternative-list-to-the-atlantics-the-great-american-novels-list-part-ii-1975-1999/

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