The Card Counter was an incredible movie, had a nightmarish aura to it stemming from those flashbacks and you see the toll it takes on a man.

The Card Counter was an incredible movie, had a nightmarish aura to it stemming from those flashbacks and you see the toll it takes on a man. Oscar Isaac killed it, but so did the other two main characters.

If you have seen it, what did you think of it? I think Paul Schrader is another movie brat director having his own old age renaissance like Scorsese

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    man oscar isaac is in everything

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      bro was in the nativity story lmao

      Was it better than First Reformed? I didn't like it that much.

      Haven't seen First Reformed yet but that's upcoming.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Really reminds me of Bresson (a usual influence)

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Was it better than First Reformed? I didn't like it that much.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it had a better ending than FR

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It was pretty good, frick knows what happens at the end am I right OP. make sure you've seen rounders

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Has anyone read Paul Schrader's book, Transcendental style in film?

      >rounders
      Is that the movie based on Norm Macdonald's poker adventures?

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Fits very well in that sports movie that's really about the people, along classics like The Hustler, Raging Bull, Cincinnati Kid (called out in the movie actually)

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    schrader releasing this movie one day before the anniversary of 9/11 is so funny

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Masterpiece and one of Schrader's very best. Decidedly more late style and containing more of his quirks than First Reformed (also excellent but more palatable to the mainstream). Card Counter is the film that made me a fan of his. Master Gardener is also great as a trilogy capper but that one plays better if you've seen all the God's lonely man films Schrader has done.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      To add onto this. If you're a fan of Card Counter, check out his film Light Sleeper. It's the most similar to this one in tone, style and music (the score for CC is done by the son of the composer who did LS).

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        LS is kino of the highest order, i concur with this anon
        great dafoe and sarandon combo

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      To add onto this. If you're a fan of Card Counter, check out his film Light Sleeper. It's the most similar to this one in tone, style and music (the score for CC is done by the son of the composer who did LS).

      I agree 100%. Got First Reformed on my drive as well. I would say the movie that made me a 'Schrader Fan' was Auto Focus, believe it or not. Schrader's movies just speak to my soul for some reason, I just feel them strongly. I have to finish Light Sleeper, idk why I stopped watching. American Gigolo is also on my watch list. Gigolo's an underrated movie in that it's one of the earliest movies in the decade to be really 80s, if that's makes sense. The fashion, the soundtrack, the empty lifestyle themes, etc. Also gotta watch Mishima, a life.

      The more I think, the more incredible a filmography Schrader has managed to create for himself. He's not like a genre filmmaker per se, but makes personal films that somehow have universal appeal. Shows deeply flawed characters all yearning for connection (like Dostoyevsky and Bresson).

      Dude was a great interview subject as well, very eloquent.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        100% he's one of my favorite writer directors, I even like his "bad era" like The Canyons (unironically love it) and Dog Eat Dog. He's never not an interesting artist always trying new things and his best work touches my soul deeply. I just really vibe with his style.

        You gotta hop on Mishima, it's his best film! I'll also recommend Affliction highly, insanely bleak but powerful.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I heard more about the making of the Canyons than the actual movie itself, but it seems like it could be interesting sleezecore regardless. I'll definitely check out Mishima, watching Light Sleeper at the moment.

          wasnt willem dafoe in it for like 3 minutes

          Yes, he was the main villain as the contractor who taught his underlings "enhanced interrogation techniques" but escaped jail time because he was technically a consultant. Excellent performance

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what a haunting look

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it doesn't look haunting in the slightest, he looks like he's mentally challenged and about to start drooling at any moment

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        cause you don't know the context

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's not a good movie. The story, characters and aesthetics are all lacking and the former very predictable and contrived. The lack of any actual cinematographer or visual director since Schrader's always been a screenwriter who only directs so he doesn't get cucked in adaptation. He just doesn't have that flair to him anymore and has become a copy of himself. Oscar Isaac is such a vastly overestimated actor as you can tell that he's acting instead of being which is detrimental to a story that hinges on being believable. First Reformed was interesting but it felt it could've gone other places so I felt a bit blue-balled. Master Gardener was fine, nothing to write home about but nothing to scowl at either. It was serviceable and Joel Edgerton was a far more natural and enjoyable presence than Oscar Isaac or Ethan Hawke but again, it falls into the trap of being able to tell where the story's going ahead of time and the conclusion not being executed well enough to stave off the feeling of it being anticipated anyway. These man-in-a-room type of movies really benefit from the author's spontaneous and unbridled youthful experiences and vigour which Paul doesn't have anymore. If nothing else, I'd love to see more directors make such movies because they're fascinating and relatable to the average viewer. Male, of course.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >These man-in-a-room type of movies really benefit from the author's spontaneous and unbridled youthful experiences and vigour which Paul doesn't have anymore. If nothing else, I'd love to see more directors make such movies because they're fascinating and relatable to the average viewer. Male, of course.
      Yeh I really agree with all that you said, I still like the movie personally. Many men really do relate to the man in the room type movies, I have no idea why.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I fear that the reason no one is attempting them anymore because they're a hard sell and it's hard to do a young, straight male story about being at odds with this society for obvious reasons. Reject the evidence of your eyes and ears, all's fine and dandy in this post-modern hellscape we call our world. How can you write Taxi Driver in 2024? Of course, Travis would hate homosexuals, blacks and transvestites but no, even if you were to please them by making it explicit that he's in the "wrong" just the idea that you want to make a movie such as this would get you kicked out of the room. This business is finished with, there is no future for movies.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeh but I'm sure there's ways to get something made cheaply if people passionate enough about it. There's some sites where low budget movies get shown

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's incredibly difficult and not worth the risk and time/energy on most people's account. Film is a dead medium and the gatekeeping and ESG/DEI culture around it, even worse than any other industry, has fricked it up permanently.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why? People can shoot movies on their phones now. The editing software is easily available.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            True but here's the thing. Film is an inherently midwit medium, to be truthful with you. It doesn't have to be and can rise above it but film does attract the most midwits out of any medium. To them, it's not about making movies or loving making movies, it's about being part of the culture, the clique, the "history" hence why so many people don't try at all because the barrier to entry is so impossible yet for them they'd rather not try at all than toil away with the small chance their amateur films get picked up or amount to something. I went to this film class, I made some stuff but no promises that I would make a career of off this. I get calls, I make calls, know people from there but honestly? I've gotten into novels/books more. It's just words on a paper but I feel like if you love art for art's sake, that medium is far better and won't break your heart as much film does. The barrier of entry isn't as big as film and there's not much of a guarantee you'll make a career of it but film is only getting worse and passion aside, you have to be pragmatic and considerate of your time and energy.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Sites like what? I need a place to put my low budget man in a room film

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Make travis a Hispanic that hates nonwhites

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            make Travis a racist white man in south texas fighting human traffickers.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Most exiting time
        Literally ANY time prior to 1945 was infinitely more exiting that the best moments of all the years since then combined into a single day.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Who says that? How is this an exciting time? It's the worst time to be alive on a spiritual and human level. Kids aren't going out anymore and enjoying youth, they're all dysfunctional consumer bugmen from birth. We're living in dystopia. We should be living, for frick's sake. Women are destroyed even more by this paradigm and are destroying humanity. We all know who's fault it is, albeit.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    wasnt willem dafoe in it for like 3 minutes

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    0 reason to watch this when Rounders exists.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Russian has the most obvious fricking tell and no one picks up on it until Matt Damon
      Shit movie.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I liked it a lot in the beginning, when he was actually card counting. Then it turned into a PTSD film about trying to babysit a moron from doing something moronic. Oscar was phenomenal as always and the pacing/directing were both great, but the movie should have been called "OCD Soldier Plays Cards to Pass the Time and Also Babysits a moron" instead of Card Counter. Because I wouldn't have watched the first movie and would have preferred to watch the second one.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What was the trauma reinactment scene at the end? Did he let Dafoe torture him back? idgi

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think it was basically like a torture Rochambeau

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