The current religious debate meta has reverted to the mean after a brief aberration during the "new atheist" movement. Theists are once again easily defeating god deniers in public, but when will the divinity affirming comparative mythologists gain traction and start cracking Abrahamic skulls?
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Comparative mythologists prove the Bible thoughbiet
prove it a plagiarism
opposite, actually.
Jung was a demonic deciever. JP and other Jungians corrupt the Bible into self-symbolism. They think this recovers its glorious intended meaning. In fact they are just ransacking the world and claiming ownership of other people's traditional texts. It's pure atheism.
>Theists are once again easily defeating god deniers in public
Why theists think it's true that some guy with holes in his hand caused the universe?
They don't. They think it's an allegory. Only you and your intellectual peer, the protestant fundamentalist, find its historicity necessary to debate.
So you're saying that people that believe the Bible actually care about the truth?
I'm saying atheists and fundamentalists share the same psychological profile despite opposing world views: middling intelligence, high neuroticism.
>neuroticism
meaningless psychology babble
Anon reading Genesis and then pretending that it actually meant to say whatever the most cutting edge astrophysics, chemistry and biology said is completely fricking delusional. At least fundies don’t pretend they’re not worshipping ancient mythological bullshit. Meanwhile you have your thumb in your ass
Or science is wrong and plant were created before the sun 7000 years ago?
Literally all your ancestors put their faith in the Bible, maybe there is a reason why
They didn’t know any better. I knew them. It’s not their fault, they didn’t have enough info or such easy access to it.
God is brighter than the sun and he was present when he created the plant. The plants had no need for the sun because they were enjoying the light of the Almighty's light.
>when will the divinity affirming comparative mythologists gain traction and start cracking
Why would we? More than a few of us are Abrahamic leaning, moreover why would we ruin our evenings trying to get into pointless debates when we can learn instead?
Well, yes. Most Atheists in the US who are not lapsed Catholic tend to come from abusive fundementalist households, and neuroticism is genetic.
Who exactly are these "theists debating in public" who are not Christians?
You're such a fricking clown, holy shit
Christianity is the martyr god religion du jour of the West, but it isn't a necessary condition for theism. The Western atheist is consumed by his obsession with and opposition to the Christian to the point of logical blindness.
You didn't answer his question. Where do you see all these non-christian theist debaters? Are there any specific prominent figured that advocate for non-christian theism that you have in mind?
The question is a red herring and irrelevant to the topic of comparative mythology. The current number of non-Christian public debaters has no bearing on the existence of gods. Atheists in this thread are desperate to maintain their frame of debate vs. Christianity and biblical historicity because anything else places them in uncharted waters for which they don't have smug rejoinders. You want a fundamentalist debate because you have a fundamentalist mindset.
>metaphysics provides nothing to engage with
>t. the momentarily euphoric
The claim was that 1)theists are defeating atheists in public debates and 2)these theists are not christians. Are you abandoning one or both of these claims, or are you simply refusing to defend them?
NTOA, but would Joe Rogan or Jordan Peterson satisfy as the beginning of an answer to your question?
They would be examples, but I don't know if they're good examples. I'd hesitate to call Peterson a theist - in fact I'd say he's the opposite of what is being claimed here, he's arguing for Christianity but not for what is generally thought of as theism. I don't know enough about Rogan to comment for him, I haven't seen him being associated with theism though.
The frick are you smoking?
Theists love to let their imaginations carry them away
You don’t even need the stats. Leaving your house at all should clue you into the fact that Christianity has suffered a catastrophic ongoing collapse.
>Christianity is the only theism
People are more religious than ever. They are abandoning institutions and joining mystery cults now like BLM and environmentalism.
As long as you understand that Christianity is withering in the west I don’t care what pet issues you’re butthurt about
Maga.
Every few centuries God rises, obliterates the pagan empire for their decades of wickedness and humiliates their false gods. But when have the false gods ever humiliated the Almighty? When has the Most High ever been defeated? Even when it's his people that get obliterated, he sends prophets years in advance to predict it will happen so that everyone knows it was his doing and not the false gods who got the upper hand on him.
>But when have the false gods ever humiliated the Almighty? When has the Most High ever been defeated?
The annihilation of Christianity throughout most of the Middle East (barring some scattered pockets) and replacement by a cult of moon/cave devil worshippers seems to come pretty close if we're talking about God as defined by Christianity
The god of Christianity has always been a false God. Christians have never obeyed and worshipped the Almighty faithfully and exclusively as he demands.
>The god of Christianity has always been a false God
Every god is a false God, in the same way that 3.14 is a false pi.
>Obeyed and worshipped the Almighty faithfully
This is impossible to do with perfection, because we are not infinite beings. All we can do is build a relationship with our imperfect understanding, which is to say that 3.14 is closer to the truth than 4 or 2.
>as he demands
He does not demand perfection. 3.14 satisfies his wrath in the vast majority of relevant cases.
The Almighty created the heavens and the earth all by himself so he is the only God.
>This is impossible to do with perfection, because we are not infinite beings. All we can do is build a relationship with our imperfect understanding,
Show me a single law of God that is too difficult to obey that it becomes impossible to do. You have a harder time obeying the laws of your country than obeying the laws of God. They are pretty simple and they all work for your benefit.
>He does not demand perfection.
He demands obedience, time and time again, it is what he demands the most. That you obey him.
>Show me a single law of God that is too difficult to obey
You shall have no other gods other than me.
This is the first command, and no one can follow it with perfection, just as no one can read off all the numbers of pi. But God does not demand perfection. 3.14 is good enough in most cases to satisfy his will.
How is it hard to not cheat on your God?
Ita not cheating to value 3.14. It's literally impossible for me to read off all of the digits of pi. I don't know how to follow his instructions without estimating the parts that are beyond my comprehension. This is an imperfection, but it can be good enough to satisfy his will.
But to answer your question from another point of view. People intentionally cheat on their god for lesser gains (Demonic pleasure/temptations/stumbling blocks). It's "hard"er to not cheat, because you need to care about others, including your future self, above your current situation. It requires will power above instinct and reflex and short term rewards.
Do you have any advice on how to strengthen will power?
And the excuse for the Almighty using pagan Mongols as a vehicle of destruction against most of the Islamic world?
Islam denies the children of Jacob and do not follow the laws of Moses. They made up their own rules and worship a false God. Every single story in the Quran about the patriarchs and the prophets has been twisted and embellished. There is not a drop of truth in the words of Muhammed.
Why does the god of jacob and moses use pagans as vehicles of his judgment? Why does islam still dominate the areas that were conquered by the mongols?
Because his wrathful punishment requires a ruthless army. He is merciful, long suffering and slow to anger. His patience may last centuries, yet when the time comes he blows up and pours out hundreds of years worth of anger and vengeance for the blood of the innocent all at once and leaves not one of his enemies standing.
>400 more years
>trust the plan
Time's up.
Cope
>dude x org that I don't like is actually le religion
anybody who unironically says this needs a beating, no moron somebody being part of an activist group (especially a group approved by the govt) isn't the same as some guy praying to a diety(s), do some of them have exceptionally moronic views on par with religious larpers, yes, does that mean they are a religion, no since most don't attach any supernatural shit to said orgs no matter how much you want to strawman they do
Ever heard of the Cult of Reason? You can believe in transcendence without believing in the supernatural.
>they're j-just activists!
What portion of the country do you think actually did that? Be honest.
Why do people say "theism" when they really just mean "Christianity"?
Because it's easier to evade counter-arguments if you appear as a proponent of a vaguely-defined "theism" than a specific branch of Christianity.
See:
"Theism" is such a silly underspecified hypothesis, there is nothing to engage with
>but when will the divinity affirming comparative mythologists gain traction and start cracking Abrahamic skulls?
There is a great degree of truth to all the world's religions developed prior to modernity. Obviously Christian fundamentalists and most Muslims are idiots. However, this does not negate the power in the person and Name of Jesus Christ or his pivotal role in man's spiritual development.
Put a big "ME!" in the middle there, and you're laughing.
>divinity affirming comparative mythologists
Hecka' Based me lad
To have faith is to forgo reason, to forgo reason is to throw away the only evolutionary advantage you have over a chimpanzee. Go on, live with your eyes at the sky your entire life.
>Theists are once again easily defeating god deniers in public
What's the best evidence that a virgin gave birth to a magic israelite?
The fact that the Dark Father is the winner of the "pod-race", and his son (light heaven walker) fights him in a magic cave.
You guys know that you're just having the exact same religion arguments that have been occurring on the internet since the 80's right
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