How similar were the Gaelic tribes to the Brythonic tribes? Stories such as Tristan and Isseult offer a clue that there was a cultural overlap, moreover there is linguistic evidence for a language area in this part of the world at the time that would suggest bilingualism and trade.
What are some good texts about the history of the Gaelic tribes? I'm particularly interested in culture, religion and literature more so than the military history.
unrelated the Welsh named the ir*sh, culture came from Wales to ir*land
ASF inbound
Be Irish. See Gaelic. Instantly think about an anonymous poster instead of culture. Status? Mindbroken.
asf
Yep. Its an eirecord autism man ruining another thread before it can start
keep on believing the ossian is totally real ASF
asf
no such thing as "celtic"
Bizarre cope.
i still cant get my head around this idea. So celtic doesnt exist because its just a language group, not a people, but germanic is both those things? What the actual frick dudes...
when did anybody bring up germanics?
*literally no one*
>asf
>ossian
>*destroys another thread*
you believe the ossian is real
No. I don't.
>Be obsessed with Gaelic and Gaelic history.
>Hate Ireland
This is like being a weeb and hating Japan.
Scotland? It alike Ireland but it actually wasn't a total dump.
So why are they on life support from England?
long con to sneak the lost Celtic gold from the Saxon's dragon-hoard.
theres no such thing as gaelic ireland, the word gaelic was invented by the Welsh as a name for them.
asf
Gaelic comes from Goidel which was the Welsh word for Scottish, first used exclusively as a name for Scottish.
Yet another example of the ir*sh not having a culture at all.
>Goídel (Old Irish)
>From the Brythonic ancestor of Welsh Gwyddel ("Irishman")
Scots being wannabee Macedonians again.
Okay but you do realise all of this is guessing? There's no exact proof of any of these forms being correct. I have quoted two authors you have quoted one.
Well that's a very radical backpedal from this
>Gaelic comes from Goidel which was the Welsh word for Scottish, first used exclusively as a name for Scottish.
But I accept your concession.
That's probably false. According to MacBain it's from root ghâdh, Eng. good, Ger. gut so Gaidel means "good men" or Stokes says it means "goat men". Remember. All of this is guessing. None of it has proof.
Borrowed from Irish Gael, alt. Gaol, from earlier Gaoidheal, cognate with Scottish Gaelic Gàidheal and Manx Gael, from Middle Irish Gaídel, from Old Irish Goídel (“Irishman”), a loanword from Old Welsh Guoidel (“wild man, warrior”) (also recorded as a personal name in the Book of Llandaff), from Proto-Brythonic *guɨðel (“savage, woodsman”), from Proto-Celtic *wēdelos (“savage, woodsman”), related to *wēdus (“wild”), from Proto-Indo-European *weydʰ- (“wood, wilderness”) (cf. Old English wāþ (“hunt”)).[1] Doublet of Goidel, unrelated to Gaul or Gallia.
And he proves he is just copying from Wikipedia.
This is a dictionary
https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/An_Etymological_Dictionary_of_the_Gaelic_Language/National_names
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gael
So you're just spamming Wikipedia like an autist. Good to know.
Gaelic (adj.)
1774, "of or pertaining to the Gaels" (meaning originally in English the Scottish Highlanders); 1775 as a noun, "language of the Celts of the Scottish Highlands;" earlier Gathelik (1590s), from Gael (Scottish Gaidheal; see Gael) + -ic.
The very source you got this from says the Gaels came to Scotland from Ireland
https://dictionary.tn/what-does-gaelic-origin-mean/#:~:text=Gaelic%20(adj.),see%20Gael)%20%2B%20%2Dic.
>also When did the Gaels arrive in Scotland? The earliest historical source we have comes from around the 10th century and held that the Gaels came from Ireland in around 500 AD, under King Fergus Mor, and conquered Argyll from the Picts. Recently archaeologists have challenged this idea.
>The Gaels of Nova Scotia speak Scottish Gaelic, is a Celtic Language that has its origins in Ireland but was and continues to be spoken in parts of Scotland and Nova Scotia. Many languages come from a common root, but like a tree, they branch out and change through time.
Gaels come from Belgium
See all Irish history involving the FirBolg, Julius Caesar and Keltic Researches
asf
aif
They must have took some detour to get to Ireland first.
the word "Gaelic" is from the Welsh applied to the Scottish then later borrowed by the ir*sh.
See
Your very own source
>W. Gwyddel, Irishman
Keltic Researches by Nicholson is a big one
picts were baltic
the entire "celtic" culture was invented in the 1800s
Yes because the Celts never made it to Ireland. The Gaelic culture has a wealth of literature and was writing down it's national epic in the vernacular while the anglos were still in North Germany.
impossible "celtics" had no written language of their own. They only acquired language via latin monks
>Here's your writing system, bro
these also exist in Britain, really makes you thonk.
The earliest ir*sh language is latin based.
Literally not true. Ogham was an indigenous writing system that you can find in many of the great works of Ireland, such as the book of Kells.
It appears that the ogham alphabet was modelled on another script,[12] and some even consider it a mere cipher of its template script (Düwel 1968:[13] points out similarity with ciphers of Germanic runes). The largest number of scholars favours the Latin alphabet as this template,[14][15] although the Elder Futhark and even the Greek alphabet have their supporters.[16] Runic origin would elegantly explain the presence of "H" and "Z" letters unused in Irish, as well as the presence of vocalic and consonantal variants "U" vs. "W", unknown to Latin writing and lost in Greek (cf. digamma). The Latin alphabet is the primary contender mainly because its influence at the required period (4th century) is most easily established, being widely used in neighbouring Roman Britannia, while the runes in the 4th century were not very widespread even in continental Europe.
kek it also appears exactly around the time ireland was colonised by monks.
It's highly embarrassing that you think that this block of text from Wikipedia refutes my point. Yes this writing script has influences from other languages? That is how language develops.
>the "oldest" ir*sh language
>4th century AD (kek)
>Latin based
Your ancestors are rape babies and slaves of my ancestors. Keep crying that your granny got carbombed by the IRA. I'll be sipping martinis as your disgusting species is replaced by the hordes of immigrants you let in.
OP here, I'm from IQfy so I don't know anything about IQfy. Who is asf and is the discussion here usually this poor?
asf is a Scottish eccentric that has a controversial theory that Gaels came to Ireland via Britain from Belgium and that all Gaelic mythology actually happened in Britain.
hes right about the second part even ir*sh accept that "celtic" culture was really just Brythonic and migrated to both Gaul and Ir*land. It was the origin of the druids that were wiped out in Gaul.
How do the ir*sh have knowledge of Druids? they got it from Britain.
Except Irish mythology is distinct from Brythonic mythology, there is no Brythonic Fionn mac Cumhaill. ASF on the other hand believes the Fenian cycle was plagiarised from the Ossian cycle, rather than the other way around.
ir*sh mythology is the same as Welsh and Norse.
Only better.
nay its the chinese knock off of Germanic. Most of it is from Norse vikings who became Norse Gaels.
Then you'd expect significantly more gay sex, transgenderism and drinking cum in Irish mythology.
sounds like the ir*sh church
Its an irish troll who spams it in any thread mentioning Gaelic culture
you're a moronic freak who thinks the ossian is real and that picts were gaels
Your first thought on seeing this thread was to reply to every post with asf
Frick off
keep on defending the ossian being real you freak c**t
This is just sad. No one has mentioned the Irish coming from Britain or Ossian except you.
We Irish Gaels were writing down and preserving the works of greece and rome and building great towers and monuments
we saved civilisation
Thanks for the suggestion, it's unfortunate that this thread has only produced two answers to the OPs question on account of someone upset about the Ossian.
reminder ir*sh are simply nazis. All "white supremacist" groups are a front for ir*sh cabal activity.
"Celticism" is a fraudulent nazi ideology.
Completely true.
The Gaelic BVLL is the israelite's only real rival.
The last 100 years of American history has been a struggle for power between Hebrews and Hibernians, it's why they killed JFK (crypto IRA agent).
This is correct, the high concentration of gingers demonstrated the racial superiority of the Celts. The works of Ossian also prove the intellectual genius of this race, otherwise how else could they produce such a poet as him?
Reminder Scotland is humiliating Sweden in Nobel Prizes per capita.
Why do they fear him?
Same vibe
>The Mere mention of his name sends G*rmanics into a spastic fit of anger
Anon here recommended me this book, first book out of 3 not written by Barry Cunnlife, frick you Barry.
It's made exclussively of literary sources that talk about the Celts (not gauls exclussively). Be it Greek, Roman, or later recorded folklore, texts like Lebor gabála Érenn, etc.
Why do you hate Barry Chadliffe?
He shilled me 2 of his books here in IQfy and his books are "quick run down" at best, not worth it really
The word "Celt" sure does trigger the frick out of anglo scum.
The Picts spoke Gaelic
Gaelic arrived in Britain and Ireland from Belgium
The IIDF don't want you to know about Keltic Researches.