The great thing about quantum is you don't understand how it works, but the math adds up.
The terror of quantum is that the math works out, but nobody can figure out how.
The great thing about quantum is you don't understand how it works, but the math adds up.
I understand how it works
Too bad you can't explain it, though, am I right?
If you can construct me a language capable of representing it then I can
It's called mathematics, you false peawiener.
Quantization does not work at those levels, it is completely useless, second, mathematics does not explain how things work, it is a tool used to quantize states, so you could then do arithmetic on them, the only way to answer the hows and whys is to directly observe them
>mathematics does not explain how things work
You're an idiot.
describing the effects =/= describing how it works
Distinction without difference. You're an idiot.
So you can mathematically describe what it feels like to breathe air? Cool, I'll wait for your equations.
Sure we can start with volume. My lungs have a certain volume of air that it can intake. Too little and the breath is short. Too much and it overinflates the chest, causing discomfort the values of these volumes are known and are all mathematical. The actual experience of breathing can be understood in brainwaves that are calculated mathematically. There's not a single element of the animal behavior of breathing that cannot be represented by numbers.
Not so with quantum Mechanics. at some point the theory just can't explain the results anymore. The most apparent example of this are probability amplitudes. The math works out but it cannot be described as to how.
>Sure we can start with volume. My lungs have a certain volume of air that it can intake. Too little and the breath is short. Too much and it overinflates the chest, causing discomfort the values of these volumes are known and are all mathematical. The actual experience of breathing can be understood in brainwaves that are calculated mathematically. There's not a single element of the animal behavior of breathing that cannot be represented by numbers
Literally none of this mathematically describes what it feels like, not only that you didn't provide a single number or equation, not only that you are describing effects, not how these effects come to occur, try again
That has nothing to do with your previous arguments, you're being fallacious as hell, and there may even be elements of quantum mechanics in consciousness. This will make it impossible to describe.
>That has nothing to do with your previous arguments,
Yes it does, I asked you to quantize experience and you failed to do so
>This will make it impossible to describe.
It is impossible to describe, that's my whole point, mathematics can only be used to quantize very specific properties, it does not ask how things work, it asks "what happens when". What happens when when you put X and Y together? You get Z. It does not ask how X and Y make Z or why X andY make Z, otherwise you wouldn't need any of the other sciences, you wouldn't need language if you could just express everything as quantities, but you can't, because that's not how reality works, the problem with quantum level stuff is that you can observe Z, maybe even assign some values to it, but it is impossible for you to quantize what X or Y are, the model falls apart because there is nothing to quantize, nothing to numerically or linguistically describe, the only way to attain the knowledge is through direct experience.
We've strayed far from the original point. You claim to understand quantum mechanics. Talkin' out your ass. The only means to communicate how things happen in detail is mathematics, but even if it were not you don't have any method to communicate the idea. Now you're attempting what I can only guess is mind over matter idiocy to try to separate mathematics from science.
It boggles the mind. Still, you are talking out your ass because even if I did believe that you understand quantum mechanics, which I don't, you admit that you have no means to communicate your knowledge to anyone else. Thus whether you're telling the truth or lying everything is going on in your head, and it doesn't look likely to be going anywhere. So that should wrap this up.
>The only means to communicate how things happen in detail is mathematics
No? What do you think interaction is? Do you think that numbers are flying into your eyes when you look at a waterfall? All the information of existence is already there, every particle, every state, every property, position, mechanism, etc, only thing you have to do is open your eyes and look, it's all right in front of you.
even if I did believe that you understand quantum mechanics, which I don't
I never asked you to, I just say how it is
>Thus whether you're telling the truth or lying everything is going on in your head
Everything you believe is just in your head, there is no way for you to prove anything is true or real, all you can do is trust that the knowledge you have been given is true. Therein lies the answer, I've seen it all, I've experienced it firsthand, the knowledge of everything shot through me like film on a reel, I don't have to prove that it is true because I know it is true, whether or not you choose to believe it is completely irrelevant, it doesn't change anything.
>because even if I did believe that you understand quantum mechanics, which I don't, you admit that you have no means to communicate your knowledge to anyone else.
I think that's how our species is supposed to function.
People in every normal culture communicate facts, sirect information, and usually leave the conclusions on the listener. Only judaized cultures primarily communicate only the conclusions, with no need to substantiate them.
ENGLISH MOTHERFRICKER!
>The great thing about quantum is you don't understand how it works, but the math adds up.
why is that great? wouldn't it be better if you understood it AND the math added up?
It's great because the universe has assured you a measure of blissful ignorance.
ok then why is that terrifying
Because with all ignorance we can't even imagine the ramifications that may come our way.
sounds like ignorance isn't that blissful for you
Yep.
my main point: OP is saying something he thinks is profound but is actually quite meaningless
You can boil hard science down to building models that make predictions. If the predictions are proven correct you can say the model correct and true. But why does that model describe reality? You're always going to be stuck with an unanswered "why" in science. If you want "why" you need philosophy or religion.
"The terror of quantum" is that it's complete nonsense, but its proponents started a war over it when they got kicked out of the academia for it.
The problem with academia is that they are still trying to make some type of classical sense of it.
You can't make sense of it, because it's nonsense. The experiments are not actually done as presented, and no actual predictions are made, only what happens with what probability. Remember last year, when they claimed to ibseve photons going back in time? When you read the actual paper, they created an amplitude modulated light beam, and measured its sideband.
synchronization of chaos
>mfw even though symmetry predicts them, there are no right-chiral neutrinos
Uhm, does nature actually have a left-wing bias?
Big deal, shits is here or there or maybe at both places at once, nothing strange about fuzzy, everything is fuzzy including humans but we convinced ourselves for a moment that its all clear and we can nail it.
>omg, my brain, it feels so big!!!
>its full of so much schizo israelite jargon and fancy soiyence polysyllables
>oh no
>i can't hold it in any longer
>i'm…
>i'm gonna…
>i'm gonna QUANTUUUUUUUUMMMMMM!!!!!!
Paradoxical Logic.
That is Exactly How Quantum Mechanics is Solved.
Would anyone like to pose me, DR. PHILONIUS EGGMAN, your questions… ABOUT THE QUANTUM REALM?
I will answer, and bash your Double Black person Brains in, with the Truth.
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-Eggman
Anyway, would anyone like to scientifically critique my theoretical experiment on a gold fusion reactor?
First off, a marble-sized sphere of pure gold.
Next, highly refractive aluminum, that is magnetized by copper wire, which is frayed with an electrified kitchen knife.
The aluminum is wrapped around the gold sphere, and the copper wire is could around the aluminum.
After that, place the charge in a ceramic bowl, that is filled half an inch of general motor oil, which is also lined with a millimeter of battery acid.
Double Black person Rig your own janky-ass ignition device, and plop that shit in a microwave.
Turn it on, and elucidate me with the results.
-Professor Eggman
simple question for any 'quantum physicists'
i have a laser pointer and a double-slit diffraction. i can make the wavy pattern show up, in fact, it always shows up. but i can never get the two lines. what do i need to do to get the two lines?
funny enough, i cant find a single photo or video of anyone getting the two lines in real life, just a bunch of shitty animations. is this whole meme just a complete fraud?
If you detect the electron after it has passed the slit, then you will interfere collapse the interference pattern. That means the waveform pattern will not appear. Set up a detector after one of the slits and the electron must move from that point onward. So if you detect the electron in such a way that you know that the electron must have passed through one slit or the other, then you know that it cannot make an interference pattern. It would have had to have some other course of events that did not "Collapse the wave form."
the only thing im detecting here is more bullshit
there is no 'wave function'. just wavelet path integrals that no one can solve
>Set up a detector after one of the slits
How? What kind of detector does this?
You just pass light behind the slit and it will occasionally scatter with the electron. It can literally be seen doing this.
>So if you detect the electron in such a way that you know that the electron must have passed through one slit or the other, then you know that it cannot make an interference pattern
lol, just cover one of the slits and you instantly know which slit it goes through, alternatively just use one slit, guess what happens, it produces the exact same pattern, just less intense
um yeah obviously