>The Scots were a tribe of Northern Irish gaels who colonized Pictland and turned it into Scotland
If this is true, why the FRICK do Irish dweebs get so upset over Scots colonizing their homeland of Northern Ireland?
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>The Scots were a tribe of Northern Irish gaels who colonized Pictland and turned it into Scotland
Same reasons muslims get upset over israeli/european colonialian but jerk off over Al-Andalus/Ottoman imperialism
Most Ulster Scots hail from the Lowlands
Still is Scots going home to where the Scots came from.
Lowland Scots aren't Gaels.
>we are scottish
>scottish
>scot
If they're not Scots (Irish people) well then they can have their own country.
Scotland has been run by non-Gaelic Lowlanders for the past 700 or so years, at this point it is their country more than it is the Highlanders country.
Lowlanders since the 1500s are as scottish as a nigerian guy in Tokyo is japanese.
Well I guess that’s bad news for me then.
Narcissism of small differences.
There is one persistent mong who keeps asking this. Like he honestly thought Irish raids on "Pictland" justified all crimes against the Irish committed by the British state in recent centuries, he has an irrational hatred of anything Irish, and he is a Scotsman with an inferiority complex. He will always go on about how he is not Scottish because it is a fake identity and he is an Englishman. Everything he hates about Scotland he sees more in Ireland and goes into autistic meltdown.
Anyway, the reason people don't care about Irish raids on Caledonia in the Dark Ages is because it was tribal conflict that happened 1,500 frickin years ago. nations and tribes of these isles have fought each other for so long it's all muddled together in the historical record.
the planter colonies in ireland and the british seizure of land from the irish were far larger, more widely documented, far more recent, and still has distant effects on the politics of the isles today.
Because Scots and Gaels are not the same thing. Saxons conquered the lowlands and over time the Gaels in Scotland were driven into the highlands and largely wiped out. "Scots" is literally a saxon language.
The Irish colonized the Picts to create their own kingdom, then these Gaels got colonized by the Scot Saxons to create Scotland.
They are roughly analogous. There is no point getting all autistic in definitions of words, "Scotia" was first used by the Romans to mean Ireland, and the "Scoti" were the Irish. In Old English, some of the Saxons called Ireland "Scotland" and the Irish the "Scottisc"
Scot originally meant Gael. Or perhaps it meant pirate Gael (similar to Norse/Viking). This originally meant all Gaels no matter where they were from, but over the centuries came to mean those who came from the Gaelic speaking kingdom in the northern part of Great Britain.
My great grandfather was from Llanelli, which is in Scotland, near London England. So I'm a Scotch American. One day I'd like to visit y'all.
I can’t wait to visit Birmingham, Ireland. That’s where my Irish great great great great granda is from. We are the fighting Irish!
Amen, bro. I love drinking Giness, that's how I know I'm Scotch/Irish/whatever. Also, I like Morrys dancing? Celtic, frick yeah!
Injustice 100 years ago is felt and remembered, especially unrectified. Injustice 1,000 years ago is forgotten entirely.
What about 800 years?
There is no rule, this is not mathematics. It depends on the strength of the culture and the willingness of the people to record the injustice in their self-history and identity.
There are many cultures that continue to hold grudges many centuries after the perceived (real or no) injustice. The Shiites for example record a strong memory of the betrayel of Ali, felt strongly more than 13 centuries later.
because of things that happened a thousand years apart
the scots of the year 1600 were not the scots of the year 600
>why the FRICK do Irish dweebs get so upset over Protestants who barely spoke Gaelic brought over by a nation bent on destroying them colonizing their homeland of Northern Ireland?
Ftfy homosexual
spoke Gaelic
They didn’t speak any Gaelic period
why do people seethe at Anglo-saxons when Gaels invaded Britain too?
Americans have nothing to do with Scotland, they are pretty much all Anglo and Protestantized Irish that migrated from the 13 Colonies until the middle of the 19th century, of which most assimilated into the Anglo culture. Muhh “Scots Irish” is also a meme since nearly all parts of the Appalachians and west was still majority Anglo with the second most distinctive elements being either “Scots Irish” or German, with many Protestantized Irish among the fold which picked either identity
how come gene studies show that the south has virtually no similarity with the irish.
They are all English and a minority of Scots.
Its curiously the same phenomenon in Australia, nearly everyone is English and minority Scot descent, yet plastic paddy syndrome somehow exists.
perhaps the south was still majority english and the rest scots or irish which was a lot but just still a relatively small minority, it just was taken for granted. and the midwest was more german and actual irish
You’re moronic. The “protestantized Irish” settlers were Scots settlers in Ireland who then moved to America shortly afterward. There was plenty of Scottish settlement, but you’re right in that it was majority Anglo. And Scots are just an Anglo offshoot anyway.
You literally just google searched Scots Irish. Having access to the internet is not a substitute for knowledge. You don't known anything.
You literally didn’t do any research and pulled bullshit terms like “protestantized Irish” out of your ass.
Actual Irish settlement was very minuscule to nonexistent until after the Potato famine. Before then, there are plenty of instances of Scottish and Scotch Irish settlers founding entire communities. Blanford, Massachusetts (originally called New Glasgow) and several communities around LaChute, Quebec are examples that immediately come to mind. But yes, obviously Englishmen were more numerous and common.
As for them actually being native Irish but just converted, I’m highly skeptical of that claim. As one anon noted, the Scots Irish of America rarely have any significant amounts of dna attributable to Ireland and pic related. Many Scots Irish immigrants were quite literally in Ireland for a couple generations and then left again.
not really, a lot of them were originally from other parts of ireland but became baptist or methodist out of convenience. but the main point being the irish and scottish were still a minority compared to the english in most places
Lowland Scots aren't all that.....Scottish, I'm afraid.
>but what about thing from hundreds/thousands of years ago?