Did people really trust valve after their entire charade with making steam machines? I still don't get why they keep trying to be a hardware company when they're clearly incompetent at it.
Bruh what? The steam deck isn't filled with more "proprietary garbage" than any Linux machine with steam installed. It can be used as a very powerful portable desktop(I do), and it's existence is a good thing for Linux because a shitton of people are trying it for the first time. And if you're that worried about any proprietary software touching your PC you can install another distro without even logging in into a steam account
Steamworks is DRM. Valve doesn't tell developers what to do. People like you who imply Steam is explicit DRM often have no clue what they're talking about.
its not explicit drm but it does have features that are explicitly anti user, including a lack of ability to role back or at least easily freeze updates indefinately without digging into the guts of steam config cheeze.
Ohhh it's DRM, but it's steam so its hecking cool
Please restrict my rights further and spy on me valve
2 years ago
Anonymous
In the games industry, if DRM is unavailable for a platform, the majority of developers will simply refuse to port the game to that platform. So it's an inevitability.
People should be aware of the pitfalls of Steam, but if they can tolerate those pitfalls, that is their prerogative.
2 years ago
Anonymous
For most games DRM changed to games-as-a-service where you need the game servers to play because everything is multiplayer these days. Some single player games or multiplayer games with meaningful tacked on single player mode still have to go full DRM. games-as-a-service is actually worse than normal DRM though because the games become totally unplayable unless some autist reimplements the game server.
2 years ago
Anonymous
no good games have this. shit like apex aren't the only games out there but of course the consoomer zombies only know about those
2 years ago
Anonymous
I agree that games as a service are cancer, but single-player games are still common, just not culturally ubiquitous anymore.
I don't particularly approve of DRM, but I'm warily tolerant of it from a company that invests in GNU/Linux since it's led to the development of some good FOSS. Sometimes you just have to pick a lesser evil.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What rights did Valve restricted me from?
What are the consequences of their supposed spying on me?
Genuinely asking because so far I am enjoying Steam's services, especially things like in-home streaming, play together and family sharing.
For most games DRM changed to games-as-a-service where you need the game servers to play because everything is multiplayer these days. Some single player games or multiplayer games with meaningful tacked on single player mode still have to go full DRM. games-as-a-service is actually worse than normal DRM though because the games become totally unplayable unless some autist reimplements the game server.
What of I don't play multiplayer nor AAA?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do you like Linux or do you just like being mad about stuff?
Yeah, frick Valve for hiring developers to improve the Linux graphics stack, Wine and ensure the continued development of tools like dxvk. How dare they!
Do you member how bad gaming on linux was before valve started to throw money at it? I member.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Absolutely. So much time spent tinkering in an attempt to get things to work decently well. Nowadays, if you buy games through Steam, you get the same experience every Windows gamer expect. Just click install, followed by play. That's all it takes now to get 90% of games to run, and run well.
No more tinkering, no more driver bullshit.
I'm quite happy with Valve taking a 30% cut of software purchased through the Steam platform. They deserve every penny
2 years ago
Anonymous
lmao holy shit a true valve /r/pcmasterrace shill right fricking here.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Don't those morons all use Windows or something?
I've merely experienced first-hand how much the usability of the Linux desktop has improved during the last ten years. The open-source drivers wasn't really worth a damn before Valve released Steam for Linux.
It was only then that AMD also had an incentive to improve their own stack and kill off the shitware that was Catalyst.
And now people are all shilling AMD due to how good their driver is.
Although it's true, I seriously doubt it would be as good as it is today if it wasn't for Steam on Linux.
those autists unironically think like this. they want their arch with only a console and even there everything has to be as minimalistic as possible. if you feel that its convenient to use they wont approve it
You don't need a ready-to-use machine for general-purpose computing in order to post on the desktop threads.
All you need is a completely fresh install and an anime wallpaper
2 years ago
Anonymous
>And now people are all shilling AMD due to how good their driver is.
I mean, that's mostly because of how BAD Nvidia's drivers are on Linux.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And despite how bad Nvidia's drivers are, they used to be significantly better than AMD's. That's how broken Catalyst was.
Honestly, if you wanted proper drives that just worked back in like 2012, you'd have gone with Intel.
The AMD kernel drivers are actually horrible on linux and have a bunch of issues. It's the userspace mesa driver that is decent because it's made by valve and not the AMD morons.
Are they? Sure it's huge due to the auto-generated header files which is currently being improved upon, but AMDGPU doesn't really seem that horrible. It has yet to annoy me at least.
Also, it's only Radv in the userspace that's made by Valve, and even that is in collaboration with Google. Radeonsi is AMD, while the rest of the Mesa stack is a community effort, which does include Valve as well, but also namely Intel, Google and Redhat.
Not trying to devalue Radv. It probably is the best Vulkan driver that currently exists
2 years ago
Anonymous
The AMD kernel drivers are actually horrible on linux and have a bunch of issues. It's the userspace mesa driver that is decent because it's made by valve and not the AMD morons.
2 years ago
Anonymous
how? seems to work fine for me
2 years ago
Anonymous
And despite how bad Nvidia's drivers are, they used to be significantly better than AMD's. That's how broken Catalyst was.
Honestly, if you wanted proper drives that just worked back in like 2012, you'd have gone with Intel.
[...]
Are they? Sure it's huge due to the auto-generated header files which is currently being improved upon, but AMDGPU doesn't really seem that horrible. It has yet to annoy me at least.
Also, it's only Radv in the userspace that's made by Valve, and even that is in collaboration with Google. Radeonsi is AMD, while the rest of the Mesa stack is a community effort, which does include Valve as well, but also namely Intel, Google and Redhat.
Not trying to devalue Radv. It probably is the best Vulkan driver that currently exists
>very often it takes a few seconds for sound to start playing with display port audio. >Wrong cursor color: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/1513 >No HDMI 2.1: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/1417 >Can't smoothly decode 8k 60fps youtube videos like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCLOJ9j1k2Y >Completely fails at hardware decoding crap quality youtube videos like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFpkvAePP7M >HDMI defaults to YUV with no way to change it to RGB without patching the kernel: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/476 >DP to HDMI adapters sometimes need to be forced on via kernel parameter in order to work properly
And those are only some of the issues that I have had with my 6800 XT on linux that are still there on the most recent stable kernel. Pretty sure they are all issues with the kernel driver.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I believe I've read somewhere that the lack of proper HDMI 2.1 support is due to a licensing issue.
Looks like Mr. Deucher claims the same thing.
Hardly AMD's fault.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's completely false though. Nvidia had no issues putting support for it in their open source driver.
It's AMD linux devs being too lazy and moronic to bother implementing it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
If that's really so, then I wonder why nobody else have implemented it yet.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Nvidia >open source driver
2 years ago
Anonymous
>put all the code in firmware >call it open source
Now explain why Intel has no HDMI 2.1 support either.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Intel never released anything with HDMI 2.1 so it's normal they have not implemented it.
AMD also have a firmware/bios that they can put the HDMI 2.1 code in if it really needs to be hidden if part of it isn't already there. The truth is that the AMD devs are lazy, moronic and don't give a shit.
If that's really so, then I wonder why nobody else have implemented it yet.
Because AMD stripped out all the registers vaguely related to HDMI 2.1 from their headers so someone would need to reverse engineer everything and there doesn't seem to be that many people that want to use HDMI 2.1 on linux.
my gpu is not a sound card. the only thing you have there is the yuv thing but it does not seem to cause any noticeable issues for me
It should still work perfectly though. The fact that it doesn''t shows that AMD devs are moronic and the drivers are garbage.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Intel never released anything with HDMI 2.1 so it's normal they have not implemented it.
Huh
2 years ago
Anonymous
my gpu is not a sound card. the only thing you have there is the yuv thing but it does not seem to cause any noticeable issues for me
those autists unironically think like this. they want their arch with only a console and even there everything has to be as minimalistic as possible. if you feel that its convenient to use they wont approve it
Nothing wrong with thise machines on principle.
SteamOS was just a shitshow.
Hard to knock Valve's "hardware" when it's just PC hardware from 3rd parties. If you don't like the experience, install windows or something.
i saw one of those steam piston valve machines on a shelf at a millionaires horse ranch, i laughed, knowing no one will use it and someone will find it in an estate sale someday
Between the Steam Machines and the HTC Vive, Valve has finally learned that they can't trust hardware to 3rd parties. The Index and Steam Deck are excellent.
>Valve didn't even make those.
The underage homosexuals now populating this place are too young to remember this. An Alienware/Dell machine is the icon of Valve's so called Steam Machines, because virtually no other ones actually sold. A handful of prototypes were shown at CES one year, but never came to market. The other really memorable one was a super expensive pile of shit with only a Trinity APU which could barely run anything.
The moment they announced these failure box I knew all Valve's hardware and software would be a complete disaster. Im getting fricking gitty the fact the deck failed so hard even tech Jesus told consumers to fricking not buy it. Now Epic and Riot stole 87% of their user base is fricking awesome
>Now Epic and Riot stole 87% of their user base is fricking awesome
Obvious bugman. Do better or your social credit score will go down and they'll take your organs
Hey moron, Steam Boxes and other shit were ages ago, ever heard of the motherfricking Valve Index? moron! Did you even bother looking into whether or not the Steam Deck was a meme before shitting on it on IQfy? No, you fricking didn't, homosexual.
because unlike schizophrenic yid run publicly traded companies valve is a private one and thus can spend a long time crafting their combersome and lackluster skill at this, which is exactly what they did for the last 10 years instead of chasing short term profits.
>Did people really trust valve after their entire charade with making steam machines >I made a steam stickers, this is the STEAM MACHINES!!
they never worked on it.
It's not a meme, but I don't see a point in it without a DLSS-like solution and a 1080p screen. It's just a barebones shitty first generation.
Hopefully they learn from their mistakes and go with Nvidia, like the switch pro will. To make both emulation and performance better.
I've used on in the past and I own a Deck, I know exactly what they look like, unlike you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
So you're not ignorant, just a plane moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Imagine attempting to insult somebody else's intelligence while not knowing the difference between "plane" and "plain." Why the frick are you ignorant and stupid bottom feeders the most obnoxious and aggressive idiots around? Does your lack of intelligence prevent you from acting like a civilized human being?
I own a deck, and owned a switch before that. My 7 year old phone is 1440p. 720p on a screen of that size looks nice, very sharp. 1080p would require GPU power and memory bandwidth the deck doesn't have. If you're going to render at 720p, you might as well use a screen with that resolution instead of adding ghosting with dlss or fsr2.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Almost anything 4 years old can run in 1080p pretty damn well on the Deck.
>waiting for Deck 2 board drop in compatability with the deck one featuring 6 Zen4 cores 12 RDNA3 CUs 4GB HBM2e and 16GB ddr5
If it want drop in compatible I'd still get one
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'd totally get one then turn my current board into a mini PC
1080p IN-MOTION is useless on a small screen, play something in 720p for a few seconds on the Deck's tiny screen and I'm certain that you'll find a 1080p upgrade negligible.
1080p would be handy but the screen is too small to make it a deal breaker.
It has AMD FSR, which isn't that good but amd is working on AMD FSR 2 which is much better. There are videos of it and it looks pretty much as good as DLSS
>There are videos of it and it looks pretty much as good as DLSS
At 4k and when still. While in motion there are some very minor ghosting and smearing artifacts for like every 1 frame out of hundreds that only autists will notice. Also FSR 2.0 isn't as good at lower resolutions as DLSS (though it still does a good job)
>DLSS
Stop just fricking stop. It's trash and so is the AMD equivalent. No amount of AI memes or algorithms is going prevent that smeared shit. 720 is perfectly fine for a small screen.
So was bloom and chromatic aberration. Just because something is popular doesn't mean its good.
>720 is perfectly fine for a small screen.
STOP. Fricking stop with this fricking shit. >Noooo you can't improve the hardware!!!
FRICK OFF. Sick and tired of you fricking shills.
>720 is perfectly fine for a small screen.
STOP. Fricking stop with this fricking shit. >Noooo you can't improve the hardware!!!
FRICK OFF. Sick and tired of you fricking shills.
but it is. on something like the x220 Thinkpad more pixels would be wasteful because its so small. you just waste more processing power and battery for minimal improvements
210 PPI is really good for something you hold at arms length. Drastically better than 27" UHF monitor. Doubling the price halfing the battery and crippling performance for something neither you or I would notice isn't what I want. But I can not speak for you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You can notice more than 700 PPI, it's like a much better anti-aliasing with no blur or artifacts.
It would cost more, yes, but no need to worry about the 0.1 milliwatts of power required to integer scale from 720P.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you can notice up to 700ppi.
Pixel peeping certain still images at a super close distance is not the same as playing videogames. And even then I doubt your claim. People can't tell the difference between 4k and 8k on like 65" displays. >meme upscaling.
It's completely pointless if your not going to render native. The Steam deck is for gaming not still images. For one thing, it could obviously never use DLSS. And even then all those pictures you see where you thit looks good are stills not motion. If you really want the AA effect. Just use super resolution to 1440p Then use FSR with a render resolution of 720p.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The Steam deck is for gaming not still images.
dammit I wanted a good portajack
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Pixel peeping certain still images at a super close distance
Not required at all. Vernier acuity is typically measured at 12 arc seconds which implies 500% scaling. >People can't tell the difference between 4k and 8k on like 65" displays.
For two reasons. Most people sit much too far away, and live action video does not have the same aliasing problems computer graphics does.
And I'm not talking about something like DLSS, AI upscaling is an abomination. I'm referring to a simple integer scale. You would have a couple options for what resolution to play games in with a 4K display. >If you really want the AA effect. Just use super resolution to 1440p Then use FSR with a render resolution of 720p.
This is just another blur filter like all AA.
All that said, the Deck screen does have more pressing issues like 60Hz, no VRR support and worst of all 68% sRGB.
2 years ago
Anonymous
68% sRGB.
pathetic, that's a scam really
2 years ago
Anonymous
only 68%?!?! I'm going to get a refund this is an outrage
2 years ago
Anonymous
Scam panels on cheap laptops have like 80% sRGB and that's good enough if you calibrate them.
>you can notice up to 700ppi.
Pixel peeping certain still images at a super close distance is not the same as playing videogames. And even then I doubt your claim. People can't tell the difference between 4k and 8k on like 65" displays. >meme upscaling.
It's completely pointless if your not going to render native. The Steam deck is for gaming not still images. For one thing, it could obviously never use DLSS. And even then all those pictures you see where you thit looks good are stills not motion. If you really want the AA effect. Just use super resolution to 1440p Then use FSR with a render resolution of 720p.
>Pixel peeping certain still images at a super close distance is not the same as playing videogames
The real IQfyirgin reveals himself. As usual.
You can frick off now. No need to beg. 🙂
It's a neat device if you wanna play decade old games at 720p and an unstable 30fps with exceptions for the games that don't play at all due to the damn thing running Linux.
Fortunately that's enough for a lot of people who have a backlog with hundreds of games on Steam. But it's certainly not for everyone.
The moment they announced these failure box I knew all Valve's hardware and software would be a complete disaster. Im getting fricking gitty the fact the deck failed so hard even tech Jesus told consumers to fricking not buy it. Now Epic and Riot stole 87% of their user base is fricking awesome
You here after the LHC test? In this universe valve won.
I can tell this homosexual looked at the specs and immediately assumed it can't run anything. Are you moronic? If you did any sort of research before making this moronic post you would know the horseshit you just said is completely untrue, kek.
I got one. It's great.
Use it on plane when traveling to see gf. Then steal one of her screens and attach mouse + keyboard and we play competitive multiplayer games sides by side.
Fantastic they got EAC to work on proton.
Then plug it to TV and stream movies from bed.
Shit's so cash.
excuses after excuses for bad design
if the morons at nintendo can do it, why can't valve come up with something better?
oh right because you fanboys eat up everything they shit out regardless of how trash it is
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because it's such a niche scenario which can can be easily resolved in a way which doesn't cause the device to be fatter.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What even is this moronation
Why would you want a machine to split apart and use flimsy rails when you can just...have it work without that shit?
2 years ago
Anonymous
You can use joycons on the Steam Deck. I don't know why you would but you can.
excuses after excuses for bad design
if the morons at nintendo can do it, why can't valve come up with something better?
oh right because you fanboys eat up everything they shit out regardless of how trash it is
The Steamdeck can emulate Swtich games better than the Switch can run them.
Throw enough money at it and it can do even more than the other guy™
2 years ago
Anonymous
Steam deck only cost $70 more than the Switch. Which is basically the price of a Nintendo Game. (That you can emulate on the Deck)
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the Deck
2 years ago
Anonymous
I will agree with you on that. I bought my Switch before the steam deck was announced so there's not much I can do about that. The only benefit is resale value though tbh.
To Nintendo's credit they actually have games.
Anyways, if I'm going to waste money at video games.
I do not want it to be tied to a license that is controlled by a server that could disappear one day.
Or to one account that could disappear because of "terms of service". I want fate on my own hand as much as possible.
This is also for other software.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>what is piracy
2 years ago
Anonymous
Just hack that b***h, buy your games physically, make backups and play them on your Steam Deck.
Seems like an easy fix to me.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You can still pirate the gaems and use emulators
2 years ago
Anonymous
>To Nintendo's credit they actually have games.
this made my day
Only thing switchgays have against PC bros is "UGHGHUNGNGNNTNG MUH BATTERY LIFE"
Call me when the Switch can run my 250+ game steam library and every retro console, and it's own library over 30fps.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The Switch has pretty measly battery life in a lot of titles too. I have an OG one, and my wife got the shitty simplified one with integrated controls during lock down. They both die relatively quickly in BOTW. Its fast enough that in about 3 hours you'll be totally dead or nearing it.
>I got one. It's great.
No you don't have one. >Use it on plane when traveling to see gf.
You don't know what a plane is. Your tribe still thinks of them as giant weird birds in the sky. >Then steal one of her screens and attach mouse + keyboard and we play competitive multiplayer games sides by side.
Steal? I knew you were a Black person! Sensible modern white man would say "borrow", but that is not in your ape vocabulary >Fantastic they got EAC to work on proton.
Juat spouting what you heard somewhere, not knowing what it means. >Then plug it to TV and stream movies from bed.
TV and bed? Electricity in subsaharan Africa? homie please! You had to walk to a nearest town with a computer club to browse this board. >Shit's so cash.
Yeah, shit is caah since it plugs up holes in your little mud hut.
>What happened to it?
It was released and is the number 1 sold item on Steam, but the draw back the long waiting queue and that it's hardware will have a successor later this year from competition and possibly by Valve on the rumoured SteamDeck 2 (and could be a few months away, and mostly from the competition that would have the 6000 series APUs).
>Was it a meme?
Yay and nay but mostly nay. Getting one is a meme (for at least my location), but this is a well supported console that can play more games than any console on release due to Linux for available native or ported games, and Proton for playing Windows based games. It can also use emulators for playing console exclusive games (such as Nintendo).
The hardware specs also leaves much to be desired too on top of the availability issue.
Due to time of year and that there is a known successor it might not be worth getting one now unless you can actually get one on the second hand market at a fair price (only ones I can buy are new units from scalpers so without being scalped realistically I can only wait).
>it's hardware will have a successor later this year from competition and possibly by Valve on the rumoured SteamDeck 2 (and could be a few months away, and mostly from the competition that would have the 6000 series APUs).
maybe in 2 years but not this year, they barely have their first units shipped out
>maybe in 2 years but not this year, they barely have their first units shipped out
Partly agree but I suspect it could be sooner as Valve are different (as a private company) and could upgrade the options for those with reservations (who have get to get a Deck).
That said I am a tad more interested in seeing a Steam OS 3 release for desktop so I can do my own thing (use it on old PC, etc).
its pretty good but suffers from poor battery life unless you compromise framerate and/or settings (then its fine) and some flimsy buttons (which are still decent).
And Nintendo doesn't manufacture switches, someone no name Chinese company does it to their specs. What is your point?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Are you baiting or are you literally this fricking stupid?
When Nintendo has the Switch manufactured its the direct result of their own internal R&D. They make the design, they contract a manufacturer, they dictate all aspects of it. Valve had literally nothing to do with the manufacturing or design of the Steam Machines. Steam Machines was an OEM branding program, you absolute baboon moron. There is no equivalence here at all.
How the frick did those work without Proton? Did they only run native Linux games?
If they created a single model SteamOS desktop machine and adapted the Deck's rating and optimal settings system for it, maybe it wouldn't flop.
Gaming UMPCs are in hot demand, about a dozen new ones are set to launch, and there are whispers that a big OEM like ASUS might throw their hat into the ring once again which hasn't been done since around 2006. Those mediocre GPD handhelds showed well enough that shitloads of people really fricking want one of these.
And more importantly, big companies are able to mass produce these to the point where they can sell them at a price the average gamer would actually be willing to pay for something like this. $1300 dollars is just not a reasonable price for the average consumer to pay for something like this. $4-500 though? absolutely.
It's absolutely fine, you honestly won't notice it. It's 215 PPI, that's higher than a 24 inch 4k monitor at 183 PPI. I only wish it was a Freesync panel.
There are 3 things I wish were different about it. I wish they had used a Zen 3 CPU, A VRR panel, and that the thumb sticks were 1 mm shorter. The travel between sticks and buttons is a bit further than I'm used to on an Xbox controller. Otherwise the device is pretty perfect, ergonomics are excellent and battery life has been pretty phenomenal.
>It's 215 PPI, that's higher than a 24 inch 4k monitor at 183 PPI
lmao, what a moronic comparison. I can clearly see the pixels in the Deck while I can't see the pixels on a 4K monitor you dumb frick. It's all about screen distance, and the Deck is usually very close to your eyes.
> trash display > display is too small, but the whole device is too big for comfortable portable gaming > 720p in 2022 > need to wait months to get one > garbage battery life > performance is not quite there yet
even a cheap gaming laptop is better in every single way
Nintendo and Valve are the only viable options and both do it and both chose correctly
stop lying to yourself anon, even 1080p has visible pixels with a screen that close.
I am a PPI fiend and still 720p at 7 inches is what you want for a modern handheld. The chips that work in handheld devices can't power more than that at 10-15w. I'm 100% serious it's a fricking waste to play 1080p on a handheld. Maybe 10 years from now but we're not there yet. You would need the steam deck to have double the GPU performance at half the wattage to make 1080p the correct resolution for the Deck.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Maybe 10 years from now but we're not there yet
are you moronic? this will happen much sooner, like in a year
2 years ago
Anonymous
in a year we will not have a chip that doubles the GPU performance of the Deck at half the wattage. You'll see 40% improvements at the same wattage.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>in a year we will not have a chip that doubles the GPU performance of the Deck at half the wattage
you're correct, that chip already exists (M1)
2 years ago
Anonymous
Phoenix Point doubles the IGP performance of Rembrandt at the same power, RDNA3 uplift vs RDNA2, and 4nm EUV vs 6(7nm) DUV.
You could easily double performance over Van Gogh at the same power, get over a 50% improvement in performance at half power.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Strix Point launches following year after Phoenix >entirely new core arch >RDNA3+ >newer process
I for one welcome this new era where we have 10w handhelds with more GPU horsepower than a damn 1650.
2 years ago
Anonymous
oh ok yeah so 50% instead of 40% big difference 🙂
2 years ago
Anonymous
50% uplift at half power is quite different from only a 40% uplift at the same power.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>50% uplift at half power
absolutely not. It will be 50% uplift at the same power.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Phoenix Point's IGP brings a 100% uplift over Rembrandt at the same power.
2 years ago
Anonymous
untrue. I'll believe it when I see it and you are a flaming homosexual for believing it before benchmarks are out in a finished product.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>u-untrue!
Literally twice the ALUs, more registers, higher clocks, Infinity Cache, over 50% higher perf/watt for desktop RDNA3 designs, and Phoenix Point is a more advanced 4nm part than the rest of the 5nm discrete designs. Sorry, homo. It is what it is.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>over 50% higher perf/watt for desktop RDNA3 designs
but you literally do not know this for a fact. You have not seen third parties benchmark it and verify it. I have a bridge to sell you lmao.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>but you literally do not know this for a fact.
Yeah, I do. Its straight from AMD themselves. Just like the uplift from RDNA 1 over Vega, and RDNA2 over RDNA1. Why are you so butthurt about basic facts, homo?
Still got a reservation. Not sure if I still want it though. Probably will break even if I flip it, but probably not worth the effort. It's cheap at least, and 1TB 2230 drives will only keep decreasing in cost.
>yes
buy it, for the price its worth it a 100%. people will tell you to just gat a gaming laptop. they might have more power but still have limitation regarding future upgrade. Laptop will also require you to carry a mouse and a power supply. The deck have a relatively short battery life but at least you can power it with a regular bank. also they made it so you could tinker with it.
It isn't a meme, the memes are what people failed to understand about it. It's a somewhat niche product because it isn't a console but a portable PC with a different form factor of laptops that wasn't mean to compete with handheld consoles anyway. Basically the product is fine but the narratives built around it were moronic takes filled with wishful thinking.
> NOOOOO, YOU CAN'T COMPARE IT TO PORTABLE CONSOLES!!!! > IT'S A VERY SPECIAL AND UNIQUE NICHE PRODUCT, PEOPLE ARE moronic FOR COMPARING IT TO BETTER ALTERNATIVES
it's not really a portable PC. the desktop feels awful to use despite their best efforts and is really just there for brief tinkering moments for things like setting up emudeck. the console mode is much more polished and comfortable. that being said it pretty much blows any other similarly priced handheld console out of the water.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>it's not really a portable PC. the desktop feels awful to use despite their best efforts and is really just there for brief tinkering moments
It's still a portable PC, the deskstop sucking is another problem. You could even blame it on the distro they're using. >it pretty much blows any other similarly priced handheld console out of the water.
Not like there's a lot of competition.
> it's still a portable personal computer
even an iPhone is a personal computer
2 years ago
Anonymous
it really isn't
2 years ago
Anonymous
Let us know how Elden Ring performs on an iPhone
2 years ago
Anonymous
The latest iPhone runs Genshin Impact with better performance than the Steam Deck, meaning it indeed has the horsepower to run Elden Ring.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Have you not realized that's cause the iPhone is running a version especially optimized for iPhone hardware? That's like saying that consoles are better than PC because they can run games better than an equally priced PC. Have you also not realized the latest iPhone is $1000+ and the Steam Deck is $400? God, are you autistic?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>That's like saying that consoles are better than PC because they can run games better than an equally priced PC
that's not true at all tho >the latest iPhone is $1000+ and the Steam Deck is $400?
top kek, you're comparing the most expensive iphone to the cheapest steam deck, the absolute state. >the iPhone is running a version especially optimized for iPhone hardware?
Genshin is a project made with the Unity Engine, all platforms basically share the same source code.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>top kek, you're comparing the most expensive iphone to the cheapest steam deck, the absolute state
that anon said the latest, latest is iphone pro 13, cheapest iphone pro 13 is $999 dumb Black person
The IQfyirgin in me is telling me it's a godsend, I can play my whole Steam library and emulate a lot of games (including Switch) perfectly fine.
The IQfytard in me is happy I can actually repair and upgrade my own fricking electronics and customize everything instead of having to deal with gaytendo whenever their shitty hardware fails, like I'd even need to repair the Steam Deck, build quality is great. It's great with a 1TB SSD I upgraded it with.
All in all best electronic I've bought in a long time, would be better if they didn't frick up the fans and if Valve could actually fricking push units out the door, my bros reserved in the first week and they're still stuck in Q3, I just barely got mine.
I haven't had a problem with the sticks yet after a few months, even then they'd HAVE to be better than the nightmare that is those shitty joy cons or whatever. All it has to compete with is the Switch and low end gaming laptops, kek
valve are a bunch of hobbyists that got lucky, not professionals
they don't understand their laissez faire attitude is never gonna cut it in the hardware industry
>made for hardcore gamers >uses fricking linux with a shitty illegal hack of windows that is fricking terrible most of the time
Don't know why anyone took it seriously.
>make a proprietary, pay2own (or licensed on pcs) OS >it's copyrighted >some shitlord comes along and makes a fricking FLOSER program to run programs your PROPRIETARY, COPYRIGHTED, PAY2USE OS runs >"this isn't fricking illegal kek"
How MS hasn't fricking destroyed every single fricking copy of Wine and its derivatives on the internet yet is beyond me.
Because it turns out that you understand even less about software than the people who make the laws. Which in this day and age is something of an accomplishment.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Jesus frick, this is the absolute cope of GAHNUU + LEENUX fanboys. YEAH RUNNING WINDOWS CODE IS 100% LEGAL BECAUSE WE SAY IT'S LEGAL.
Do you not understand that fricking non-free, proprietary systems are, you know, restricted and protected by copyright? Talk about someone who doesn't understand software.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You clearly don't know the first thing about copyright law. You could make a perfect 1-to-1 copy of windows (minus any copyrighted or trademarked elements of the UI, of course), and it would be totally legal so long as you can prove that you didn't use or even look at any of the proprietary, trademarked sourcecode.
2 years ago
Anonymous
*copyrighted sourcecode
2 years ago
Anonymous
>so long as you can prove that you didn't use or even look at any of the proprietary, trademarked sourcecode.
That's backwards. They would have to prove that you did.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's a mutual argument. The end result is the same.
as it stands right now it would probably be ruled fair use like Google vs Oracle
in that case Microsoft even defended Google and said APIs should not be copyrightable
So right now the 35w mobile 6900hs is faster than a desktop 1050ti. RDNA 3 is a big uplift over current gen stuff, some compiler patches show it to have 128ALUs per CU. AMD are saying the arch is over 50% more efficient than RDNA2.
When we start moving beyond FinFETs the performance in these low power parts is going to be just absolutely crazy. It won't be long before we see 1080ti performance in some tiny handheld.
Some of us had a cheaper solution. Steam users already game on the PC. Now pic when outside can play many console games. If in range of the wifi can stream those same PC games to the device, all you have to do then is configure the controls.
I'm getting use to have a portable linux machine and sometimes play games from gog
I'll probably just erase steamos and install plain arch if it doesn't cause too many issues
Got one in the first batch they shipped and still like it and use it almost daily. It has only gotten better with the updates. Biggest improvement were the fan control update and the underclocking of the display. Would definitely buy again, even if I wasn't a perverted penguin lover.
Wage-slave here.
I bring mine to work to game during my lunch break. I play the hundreds of indie titles sitting in my library that I likely never would have touched on my PC. It makes getting through the day easier.
I've noticed that some co-workers have started bringing their Switches to work and a few others have been vocal about placing an order for a Deck of their own.
Deck owner bros, what's your honest, realistic list of the hardware bits that could have been better? 10 hour playing at 4k 144fps isn't realistic.
>huge bezels are a waste of space >fan still can be annoying >glued in battery >no dual stage triggers like the steam controller >abxy button should be rotated clockwise a tiny bit, I have trouble pressing b+y in MonHun >haptic feedback is weak ass
>It's selling more than the valve index
it's not hard to beat an overpriced and old VR in sales anon, specially with the Quest 2 around > they are having trouble shipping them out
that's because their manufacturing capacity is pathetic, not because it's selling like the iPhone
As far as I know top seller status is the total sales value, not units sold. So a game at $40 would have to sell 10x copies of the deck units sold to get the top spot.
man, I haven't used my deck in like a month. It's the curse of handhelds. However new and shiny it is, it will eventually lose out to something small and more portable. I am back on my retroid 2+ playing shadowrun SNES and E.V.O again
Only if you're a moron that even wants to play AAA games set all the graphic settings to maximum.
I get 4 hours in Elden Ring and 7 hours in The Binding Of Isaac, everything else is kinda in between those two.
You can push it past 10 hours with some plugins and low end games.
I've got a Steam Controller and a Deck, Valve developed a touchpad based typing system when their controller first came out. I certainly wouldn't write an essay with it, but after about a day I could type quickly enough that I shitpost here with it, type in urls, etc.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Onscreen popup keyboard, useable with touch or [...]
The keyboard is honestly the worst part, but it's not meant for typing so whatever.
The touchpad mouse is shockingly good to use, takes a moment to get used to like using a Thinkpad clitmouse for the first time.
nice. i think i could live with it. i did use a full qwerty keyboard on my 4" phone for years and that was insanely small.. in vertical mode of course before you say something about it not being that bad
2 years ago
Anonymous
Onscreen popup keyboard, useable with touch or [...]
The keyboard is honestly the worst part, but it's not meant for typing so whatever.
The touchpad mouse is shockingly good to use, takes a moment to get used to like using a Thinkpad clitmouse for the first time.
Always wondered about that.
The 12 year old me always wanted some type of game console but also a PC. Basically a PSP on steroids.
After really thinking a smartphone is better, not for gaming but everything else just because of the typing interface.
I guess my dream of a comfy combined game and shitpost machine will stay a dream.
2 years ago
Anonymous
a android smartphone could do many of the things a pc can. even easier with custom roms like postmarketos
2 years ago
Anonymous
When I say PC I mean the very basics, like going on any full website, go to places like YouTube, the kind of shit you still needed a full PC for back in 2005-2006.
The dream is somewhat realized with basically any smartphone which does what most people used a PC for, including the one in my hand, despite that I still have the weird desire for a combined device.
2 years ago
Anonymous
psp for example is just a arm based device with custom software. if you were autistic enough you could probably get linux or something running on it but because everything is insanely bloated these days you absolutely wont be able to open a site like youtube on it... not enough ram for that but simpler sites should work maybe even with the built in browser of the default os
2 years ago
Anonymous
I remember back in highschool a friend of mine managed to get Linux working on an original Xbox. No idea what distro it was, though.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I remember running windows 98 on psp but it worked like shit.
I've got a Steam Controller and a Deck, Valve developed a touchpad based typing system when their controller first came out. I certainly wouldn't write an essay with it, but after about a day I could type quickly enough that I shitpost here with it, type in urls, etc.
The keyboard is honestly the worst part, but it's not meant for typing so whatever.
The touchpad mouse is shockingly good to use, takes a moment to get used to like using a Thinkpad clitmouse for the first time.
>not portable >bigger than a bible >batteries don't last >screen is shit unless you get the most expensive model >literally digital camera storage from 2003 >barely half of the games on steam work properly >the half of games that do work, have bugs >louder than your mother
Its basically a shitty laptop with a controller glued on, anyone who fell for this meme is literally a beta tester for Gabe Newell, all because he has a vendetta against microsoft.
Yeah, slurp that proprietary steam drm cum where you don't own anything, valve really cares about open source and freedom, LMAO. >OMG THIS BILLIONARE DICK FEELS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THIS OTHER BILLIONARE DICK
Absolute state of freetards.
That's the difference between a freetard (open source shill) and an actual free/libre software enjoyer
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, shills will root for big companies pushing for mass adoption and freetards will whine and seethe hoping only their small social circle can ever use Linux.
I take a look at reviews every once in a while and there's almost nothing but praise. It's permanently sold out since everyone's buying one and it has no viable competition. Seems like this one isn't a meme.
I'll buy one once it's available in my third world shithole, looks good for emulation.
We have one at the office, it's pretty nice.
My main issue with it is the single port, so you can't charge and connect it to a TV as the same time unless you have a docking station. - who thought this Apple design was a good idea?
I agree, the lack of a secondary USB-C port is honest to god the only thing I hate about this thing in terms of hardware.
Dongles are cheap and available thanks to Apple, but even if I disregarded that, a port on the bottom would have been ideal to charge it in different positions and would have bern better for docking.
It's Arch+KDE. It has systemd if that bothers you, but what I thought was interesting is that there is no admin password by default which prevents accidental running of sudo commands but there's nothing stopping you from setting up a password and doing anything you could normally do on a Linux system.
steamOS comes with a read only filesystem so you either need to stick to flatpaks/appimages or setup an overlayfs to get around new updates wiping changes to the system. some anon installed gentoo on his and ripped the steam ui scripts from steamOS to get the functional UI back, so you can do whatever the frick you want, really
Mine just arrived on Friday. So far I've been messing with the desktop mode. I have a couple of cool ideas that I think will make using it a unique and powerful experience. Most notably, the left touch pad doesn't do much besides right click by default. What I want to do is create two independent mouse pointers using both touch pads and remap right/left clicks to the triggers. I think this could be really fun for click-intensive games like RTS.
I remember on X you could have 2 cursors but it wasn't very usable because all the software expected only 1 cursor.
You will most likely have the same issue with the steam deck.
I've experimented with two mouses before and I'm certain it will work for at least multitasking if not within the same application. You could play two Runescape accounts this way for sure.
There's a really good mapping for desktop mode in the controller settings that turns the left pad into a scroll wheel. It should be the default, the default mapping shit
I had doubts and regrets about mine but now that I think about it I've been playing with it pretty much daily ever since I got it. I mostly just play casual stuff in the evenings when I have time these days though. I'd stick to a desktop if I was a hardcore gaymer.
-play most current games
-play dos games via dosbox
-play console games via emulation
-watch series/movies
-video call
-hook it up to a dock, switch to desktop moade and do everything you can do with a pc
-press power button to pause your game and resume later again with a power button press
-hook up a power bank for those long trips
-replace the SSD with a 1TB one
-replace all other parts if you want via ifixit
-touch screen, trackpads, d-pad, thumbstick, back buttons, r1, r2, you've got it all!
-awesome speakers, good mics
it's basically the Raspberry Pi all over again: >stage 1: product sells so fricking well nobody can even get their hands on one >stage 2: some butthole keeps posting threads on IQfy calling product a meme and pretending like they're useless in the hopes that sales slow down (YOU ARE HERE) >stage 3: eventually this butthole gets sick of making the same thread every day, shifts to making threads to whine about the shortages and lack of availability >stage 4: butthole finally gets the product, shifts to spamming threads about how fricking awesome the product is
as soon as I learn CAD i'm going to make a system like that but with a real split keyboard like an Iris or something. I can't believe that doesn't exist already.
>It'd be nice to be able to play something when its too hot for the desktop to be on.
You know that valve told people not to play it in the heat, right? it probably has worse thermals than your desktop, and if it doesn't, a dollar fan can be aimed at your desktop to solve the problem.
It's a computer and it runs Linux. Most of the people who own one like it.
Wrong board
I own one and i like it a lot. I haven't played any games on it yet but it's fun to frick around with as a computer.
Did people really trust valve after their entire charade with making steam machines? I still don't get why they keep trying to be a hardware company when they're clearly incompetent at it.
and don't get me started on the amount of ~~*(linux*~~) users that absolutely shill for a company that makes proprietary DRM-ed software
becouse you can easy install steam on ubuntu and play games
Bruh what? The steam deck isn't filled with more "proprietary garbage" than any Linux machine with steam installed. It can be used as a very powerful portable desktop(I do), and it's existence is a good thing for Linux because a shitton of people are trying it for the first time. And if you're that worried about any proprietary software touching your PC you can install another distro without even logging in into a steam account
Steamworks is DRM. Valve doesn't tell developers what to do. People like you who imply Steam is explicit DRM often have no clue what they're talking about.
its not explicit drm but it does have features that are explicitly anti user, including a lack of ability to role back or at least easily freeze updates indefinately without digging into the guts of steam config cheeze.
If all DRMs were like Steam, I wouldn't mind DRM at all.
Ohhh it's DRM, but it's steam so its hecking cool
Please restrict my rights further and spy on me valve
In the games industry, if DRM is unavailable for a platform, the majority of developers will simply refuse to port the game to that platform. So it's an inevitability.
People should be aware of the pitfalls of Steam, but if they can tolerate those pitfalls, that is their prerogative.
For most games DRM changed to games-as-a-service where you need the game servers to play because everything is multiplayer these days. Some single player games or multiplayer games with meaningful tacked on single player mode still have to go full DRM. games-as-a-service is actually worse than normal DRM though because the games become totally unplayable unless some autist reimplements the game server.
no good games have this. shit like apex aren't the only games out there but of course the consoomer zombies only know about those
I agree that games as a service are cancer, but single-player games are still common, just not culturally ubiquitous anymore.
I don't particularly approve of DRM, but I'm warily tolerant of it from a company that invests in GNU/Linux since it's led to the development of some good FOSS. Sometimes you just have to pick a lesser evil.
What rights did Valve restricted me from?
What are the consequences of their supposed spying on me?
Genuinely asking because so far I am enjoying Steam's services, especially things like in-home streaming, play together and family sharing.
What of I don't play multiplayer nor AAA?
Do you like Linux or do you just like being mad about stuff?
Yeah, frick Valve for hiring developers to improve the Linux graphics stack, Wine and ensure the continued development of tools like dxvk. How dare they!
Do you member how bad gaming on linux was before valve started to throw money at it? I member.
Absolutely. So much time spent tinkering in an attempt to get things to work decently well. Nowadays, if you buy games through Steam, you get the same experience every Windows gamer expect. Just click install, followed by play. That's all it takes now to get 90% of games to run, and run well.
No more tinkering, no more driver bullshit.
I'm quite happy with Valve taking a 30% cut of software purchased through the Steam platform. They deserve every penny
lmao holy shit a true valve /r/pcmasterrace shill right fricking here.
Don't those morons all use Windows or something?
I've merely experienced first-hand how much the usability of the Linux desktop has improved during the last ten years. The open-source drivers wasn't really worth a damn before Valve released Steam for Linux.
It was only then that AMD also had an incentive to improve their own stack and kill off the shitware that was Catalyst.
And now people are all shilling AMD due to how good their driver is.
Although it's true, I seriously doubt it would be as good as it is today if it wasn't for Steam on Linux.
You don't need a ready-to-use machine for general-purpose computing in order to post on the desktop threads.
All you need is a completely fresh install and an anime wallpaper
>And now people are all shilling AMD due to how good their driver is.
I mean, that's mostly because of how BAD Nvidia's drivers are on Linux.
And despite how bad Nvidia's drivers are, they used to be significantly better than AMD's. That's how broken Catalyst was.
Honestly, if you wanted proper drives that just worked back in like 2012, you'd have gone with Intel.
Are they? Sure it's huge due to the auto-generated header files which is currently being improved upon, but AMDGPU doesn't really seem that horrible. It has yet to annoy me at least.
Also, it's only Radv in the userspace that's made by Valve, and even that is in collaboration with Google. Radeonsi is AMD, while the rest of the Mesa stack is a community effort, which does include Valve as well, but also namely Intel, Google and Redhat.
Not trying to devalue Radv. It probably is the best Vulkan driver that currently exists
The AMD kernel drivers are actually horrible on linux and have a bunch of issues. It's the userspace mesa driver that is decent because it's made by valve and not the AMD morons.
how? seems to work fine for me
>very often it takes a few seconds for sound to start playing with display port audio.
>Wrong cursor color: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/1513
>No HDMI 2.1: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/1417
>Can't smoothly decode 8k 60fps youtube videos like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCLOJ9j1k2Y
>Completely fails at hardware decoding crap quality youtube videos like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFpkvAePP7M
>HDMI defaults to YUV with no way to change it to RGB without patching the kernel: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/476
>DP to HDMI adapters sometimes need to be forced on via kernel parameter in order to work properly
And those are only some of the issues that I have had with my 6800 XT on linux that are still there on the most recent stable kernel. Pretty sure they are all issues with the kernel driver.
I believe I've read somewhere that the lack of proper HDMI 2.1 support is due to a licensing issue.
Looks like Mr. Deucher claims the same thing.
Hardly AMD's fault.
That's completely false though. Nvidia had no issues putting support for it in their open source driver.
It's AMD linux devs being too lazy and moronic to bother implementing it.
If that's really so, then I wonder why nobody else have implemented it yet.
>Nvidia
>open source driver
>put all the code in firmware
>call it open source
Now explain why Intel has no HDMI 2.1 support either.
Intel never released anything with HDMI 2.1 so it's normal they have not implemented it.
AMD also have a firmware/bios that they can put the HDMI 2.1 code in if it really needs to be hidden if part of it isn't already there. The truth is that the AMD devs are lazy, moronic and don't give a shit.
Because AMD stripped out all the registers vaguely related to HDMI 2.1 from their headers so someone would need to reverse engineer everything and there doesn't seem to be that many people that want to use HDMI 2.1 on linux.
It should still work perfectly though. The fact that it doesn''t shows that AMD devs are moronic and the drivers are garbage.
>Intel never released anything with HDMI 2.1 so it's normal they have not implemented it.
Huh
my gpu is not a sound card. the only thing you have there is the yuv thing but it does not seem to cause any noticeable issues for me
those autists unironically think like this. they want their arch with only a console and even there everything has to be as minimalistic as possible. if you feel that its convenient to use they wont approve it
Nothing wrong with thise machines on principle.
SteamOS was just a shitshow.
Hard to knock Valve's "hardware" when it's just PC hardware from 3rd parties. If you don't like the experience, install windows or something.
i saw one of those steam piston valve machines on a shelf at a millionaires horse ranch, i laughed, knowing no one will use it and someone will find it in an estate sale someday
only one ive ever seen in the wild
The problem with that was that the only people who would've wanted one already had a PC
Valve didn't even make those.
Between the Steam Machines and the HTC Vive, Valve has finally learned that they can't trust hardware to 3rd parties. The Index and Steam Deck are excellent.
>Valve didn't even make those.
The underage homosexuals now populating this place are too young to remember this. An Alienware/Dell machine is the icon of Valve's so called Steam Machines, because virtually no other ones actually sold. A handful of prototypes were shown at CES one year, but never came to market. The other really memorable one was a super expensive pile of shit with only a Trinity APU which could barely run anything.
You have to go back.
Dry your moist bussy, playa
They were as underpowerd PCs as the steam deck is today. Also, a 1000 dollars purchase for only one game is an L. Valve dick riders are the worst
The moment they announced these failure box I knew all Valve's hardware and software would be a complete disaster. Im getting fricking gitty the fact the deck failed so hard even tech Jesus told consumers to fricking not buy it. Now Epic and Riot stole 87% of their user base is fricking awesome
meds
>Alienware hardware is Valve's
Interesting post, schizo
>Now Epic and Riot stole 87% of their user base is fricking awesome
Obvious bugman. Do better or your social credit score will go down and they'll take your organs
Ahh, yes. Another Steam Deck sceptic moron.
Hey moron, Steam Boxes and other shit were ages ago, ever heard of the motherfricking Valve Index? moron! Did you even bother looking into whether or not the Steam Deck was a meme before shitting on it on IQfy? No, you fricking didn't, homosexual.
because unlike schizophrenic yid run publicly traded companies valve is a private one and thus can spend a long time crafting their combersome and lackluster skill at this, which is exactly what they did for the last 10 years instead of chasing short term profits.
>Did people really trust valve after their entire charade with making steam machines
>I made a steam stickers, this is the STEAM MACHINES!!
they never worked on it.
Valve didn't make Steam Machines, moron. They just made SteamOS and let different PC manufacturers install it on their prebuilds.
not really valve being incompetent, but its users
I ordered one last week.
It's not a meme, but I don't see a point in it without a DLSS-like solution and a 1080p screen. It's just a barebones shitty first generation.
Hopefully they learn from their mistakes and go with Nvidia, like the switch pro will. To make both emulation and performance better.
We are never getting a Switch Pro.
>I don't see a point in it without a DLSS-like solution
it gets to use the AMD FSR (RSR) setting from the quick access menu on any game
1080p would be worthless and stupid on such a small screen.
Use a 720p phone and see how it looks moron.
I've used on in the past and I own a Deck, I know exactly what they look like, unlike you.
So you're not ignorant, just a plane moron.
Imagine attempting to insult somebody else's intelligence while not knowing the difference between "plane" and "plain." Why the frick are you ignorant and stupid bottom feeders the most obnoxious and aggressive idiots around? Does your lack of intelligence prevent you from acting like a civilized human being?
I own a deck, and owned a switch before that. My 7 year old phone is 1440p. 720p on a screen of that size looks nice, very sharp. 1080p would require GPU power and memory bandwidth the deck doesn't have. If you're going to render at 720p, you might as well use a screen with that resolution instead of adding ghosting with dlss or fsr2.
Almost anything 4 years old can run in 1080p pretty damn well on the Deck.
>he doesn't know about vernier
Nvidiots more buck broken than tendies.
You just know Mommy Su has big plans with Gaben.
>waiting for Deck 2 board drop in compatability with the deck one featuring 6 Zen4 cores 12 RDNA3 CUs 4GB HBM2e and 16GB ddr5
If it want drop in compatible I'd still get one
I'd totally get one then turn my current board into a mini PC
1080p IN-MOTION is useless on a small screen, play something in 720p for a few seconds on the Deck's tiny screen and I'm certain that you'll find a 1080p upgrade negligible.
1080p would be handy but the screen is too small to make it a deal breaker.
It has AMD FSR, which isn't that good but amd is working on AMD FSR 2 which is much better. There are videos of it and it looks pretty much as good as DLSS
>There are videos of it and it looks pretty much as good as DLSS
At 4k and when still. While in motion there are some very minor ghosting and smearing artifacts for like every 1 frame out of hundreds that only autists will notice. Also FSR 2.0 isn't as good at lower resolutions as DLSS (though it still does a good job)
>DLSS
Stop just fricking stop. It's trash and so is the AMD equivalent. No amount of AI memes or algorithms is going prevent that smeared shit. 720 is perfectly fine for a small screen.
People said the exact same shit about temporal anti aliasing, now it's the standard
Temporal anti-aliasing and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
So was bloom and chromatic aberration. Just because something is popular doesn't mean its good.
See
What is PPI for $500, Alex?
>720 is perfectly fine for a small screen.
STOP. Fricking stop with this fricking shit.
>Noooo you can't improve the hardware!!!
FRICK OFF. Sick and tired of you fricking shills.
the screen looks good for its size
t. actually own one
but it is. on something like the x220 Thinkpad more pixels would be wasteful because its so small. you just waste more processing power and battery for minimal improvements
Over 200 PPI is perfectly fine, brainlet
I am begging you IQfyirgins to learn about PPI, and the difference between ARM and x86
If you truly understood PPI you'd want a 1440P or 4K screen.
210 PPI is really good for something you hold at arms length. Drastically better than 27" UHF monitor. Doubling the price halfing the battery and crippling performance for something neither you or I would notice isn't what I want. But I can not speak for you.
You can notice more than 700 PPI, it's like a much better anti-aliasing with no blur or artifacts.
It would cost more, yes, but no need to worry about the 0.1 milliwatts of power required to integer scale from 720P.
>you can notice up to 700ppi.
Pixel peeping certain still images at a super close distance is not the same as playing videogames. And even then I doubt your claim. People can't tell the difference between 4k and 8k on like 65" displays.
>meme upscaling.
It's completely pointless if your not going to render native. The Steam deck is for gaming not still images. For one thing, it could obviously never use DLSS. And even then all those pictures you see where you thit looks good are stills not motion. If you really want the AA effect. Just use super resolution to 1440p Then use FSR with a render resolution of 720p.
>The Steam deck is for gaming not still images.
dammit I wanted a good portajack
>Pixel peeping certain still images at a super close distance
Not required at all. Vernier acuity is typically measured at 12 arc seconds which implies 500% scaling.
>People can't tell the difference between 4k and 8k on like 65" displays.
For two reasons. Most people sit much too far away, and live action video does not have the same aliasing problems computer graphics does.
And I'm not talking about something like DLSS, AI upscaling is an abomination. I'm referring to a simple integer scale. You would have a couple options for what resolution to play games in with a 4K display.
>If you really want the AA effect. Just use super resolution to 1440p Then use FSR with a render resolution of 720p.
This is just another blur filter like all AA.
All that said, the Deck screen does have more pressing issues like 60Hz, no VRR support and worst of all 68% sRGB.
68% sRGB.
pathetic, that's a scam really
only 68%?!?! I'm going to get a refund this is an outrage
Scam panels on cheap laptops have like 80% sRGB and that's good enough if you calibrate them.
>Pixel peeping certain still images at a super close distance is not the same as playing videogames
The real IQfyirgin reveals himself. As usual.
You can frick off now. No need to beg. 🙂
It's a neat device if you wanna play decade old games at 720p and an unstable 30fps with exceptions for the games that don't play at all due to the damn thing running Linux.
Fortunately that's enough for a lot of people who have a backlog with hundreds of games on Steam. But it's certainly not for everyone.
>play decade old games at 720p and an unstable 30fps
that's just not true at all
Shhh they're just making up shit to cope. They're probably a Nintengay or poorn
fricking shill as fricker. let me guess I UsE LiNuX because ItS conSumer Freindly and ComMunist!! Just have a nice day please!
Curry man do the needful
You here after the LHC test? In this universe valve won.
It has a 60Hz display so games run at 60 frames per second.
I can tell this homosexual looked at the specs and immediately assumed it can't run anything. Are you moronic? If you did any sort of research before making this moronic post you would know the horseshit you just said is completely untrue, kek.
RDNA 2 ain't no meme, homosexual.
I got one. It's great.
Use it on plane when traveling to see gf. Then steal one of her screens and attach mouse + keyboard and we play competitive multiplayer games sides by side.
Fantastic they got EAC to work on proton.
Then plug it to TV and stream movies from bed.
Shit's so cash.
>Then plug it to TV and stream movies from bed.
With a separate controller because they were too moronic to copy Switch
Since it's a computer we just use a multimedia remote so it's all good
>another thing to buy
*yawn
Or you know, just use your phone as a remote.
excuses after excuses for bad design
if the morons at nintendo can do it, why can't valve come up with something better?
oh right because you fanboys eat up everything they shit out regardless of how trash it is
Because it's such a niche scenario which can can be easily resolved in a way which doesn't cause the device to be fatter.
What even is this moronation
Why would you want a machine to split apart and use flimsy rails when you can just...have it work without that shit?
You can use joycons on the Steam Deck. I don't know why you would but you can.
The Steamdeck can emulate Swtich games better than the Switch can run them.
Throw enough money at it and it can do even more than the other guy™
Steam deck only cost $70 more than the Switch. Which is basically the price of a Nintendo Game. (That you can emulate on the Deck)
>the Deck
I will agree with you on that. I bought my Switch before the steam deck was announced so there's not much I can do about that. The only benefit is resale value though tbh.
To Nintendo's credit they actually have games.
Anyways, if I'm going to waste money at video games.
I do not want it to be tied to a license that is controlled by a server that could disappear one day.
Or to one account that could disappear because of "terms of service". I want fate on my own hand as much as possible.
This is also for other software.
>what is piracy
Just hack that b***h, buy your games physically, make backups and play them on your Steam Deck.
Seems like an easy fix to me.
You can still pirate the gaems and use emulators
>To Nintendo's credit they actually have games.
this made my day
Only thing switchgays have against PC bros is "UGHGHUNGNGNNTNG MUH BATTERY LIFE"
Call me when the Switch can run my 250+ game steam library and every retro console, and it's own library over 30fps.
The Switch has pretty measly battery life in a lot of titles too. I have an OG one, and my wife got the shitty simplified one with integrated controls during lock down. They both die relatively quickly in BOTW. Its fast enough that in about 3 hours you'll be totally dead or nearing it.
>plane when traveling to see gf
You take a plane to see your girl friend?
yeah she goes to a different school you wouldn’t know her
>I got one. It's great.
No you don't have one.
>Use it on plane when traveling to see gf.
You don't know what a plane is. Your tribe still thinks of them as giant weird birds in the sky.
>Then steal one of her screens and attach mouse + keyboard and we play competitive multiplayer games sides by side.
Steal? I knew you were a Black person! Sensible modern white man would say "borrow", but that is not in your ape vocabulary
>Fantastic they got EAC to work on proton.
Juat spouting what you heard somewhere, not knowing what it means.
>Then plug it to TV and stream movies from bed.
TV and bed? Electricity in subsaharan Africa? homie please! You had to walk to a nearest town with a computer club to browse this board.
>Shit's so cash.
Yeah, shit is caah since it plugs up holes in your little mud hut.
why are you so mad
m-meds
>What happend to it?
Literally selling them faster than they can make them. Probably will over take the switch.
Huh, the Switch is already over 100 million.
Playing games outside over the age of 12 is a meme yes.
Damn, you must be a sad frick.
Says the guy that needs to carry an escapism machine around them constantly
He is not wrong.
Same thing should be said about people who wear headphones or keep using their dang phone.
He is wrong.
steam deck is for the couch
Selling like hotcakes.
There's even better handhelds now with 6800U that beat the Deck.
The Deck really shows there's huge demand for a market that GPD created back in 2016, there's more AMD64 handhelds then ever.
shipment should be here today or tomorrow
got one for free, sold a tf2 hat
Wow, I haven't seen ANYONE outside of IQfy say a word about the Steaming Dreck for months.
>What happened to it?
It was released and is the number 1 sold item on Steam, but the draw back the long waiting queue and that it's hardware will have a successor later this year from competition and possibly by Valve on the rumoured SteamDeck 2 (and could be a few months away, and mostly from the competition that would have the 6000 series APUs).
>Was it a meme?
Yay and nay but mostly nay. Getting one is a meme (for at least my location), but this is a well supported console that can play more games than any console on release due to Linux for available native or ported games, and Proton for playing Windows based games. It can also use emulators for playing console exclusive games (such as Nintendo).
The hardware specs also leaves much to be desired too on top of the availability issue.
Due to time of year and that there is a known successor it might not be worth getting one now unless you can actually get one on the second hand market at a fair price (only ones I can buy are new units from scalpers so without being scalped realistically I can only wait).
>it's hardware will have a successor later this year from competition and possibly by Valve on the rumoured SteamDeck 2 (and could be a few months away, and mostly from the competition that would have the 6000 series APUs).
maybe in 2 years but not this year, they barely have their first units shipped out
They will kill their product if they launch it that early.
Also portal to satan, I wonder what his take is.
>maybe in 2 years but not this year, they barely have their first units shipped out
Partly agree but I suspect it could be sooner as Valve are different (as a private company) and could upgrade the options for those with reservations (who have get to get a Deck).
That said I am a tad more interested in seeing a Steam OS 3 release for desktop so I can do my own thing (use it on old PC, etc).
I would hope for a standalone VR headset instead of a deck 2. Not going to buy Suckerbergs shitbox.
>Yay and nay
It's spelled "yea and nay."
its pretty good but suffers from poor battery life unless you compromise framerate and/or settings (then its fine) and some flimsy buttons (which are still decent).
if you go to the steam deck reddit
valve STILL has not sent out all the orders made on the first day it was available, they are that far behind
if you order one now, you might get it in 10 years
>10 years
Good.
I wonder what gaming and tech will look like.
I've had mine for three months, it's fun
they should have sold cheap desktop gaming rigs instead
They used to. Used to be steam machines in Walmart next to the 360s, all boxed up like a console.
Valve never sold or manufactured Steam Machines.
And Nintendo doesn't manufacture switches, someone no name Chinese company does it to their specs. What is your point?
Are you baiting or are you literally this fricking stupid?
When Nintendo has the Switch manufactured its the direct result of their own internal R&D. They make the design, they contract a manufacturer, they dictate all aspects of it. Valve had literally nothing to do with the manufacturing or design of the Steam Machines. Steam Machines was an OEM branding program, you absolute baboon moron. There is no equivalence here at all.
How the frick did those work without Proton? Did they only run native Linux games?
If they created a single model SteamOS desktop machine and adapted the Deck's rating and optimal settings system for it, maybe it wouldn't flop.
yes that's probably why they started working on proton after it flopped
They didn't work very well, at the time Valve was apparently trying to convince devs to port their games to Linux.
Gaming UMPCs are in hot demand, about a dozen new ones are set to launch, and there are whispers that a big OEM like ASUS might throw their hat into the ring once again which hasn't been done since around 2006. Those mediocre GPD handhelds showed well enough that shitloads of people really fricking want one of these.
And more importantly, big companies are able to mass produce these to the point where they can sell them at a price the average gamer would actually be willing to pay for something like this. $1300 dollars is just not a reasonable price for the average consumer to pay for something like this. $4-500 though? absolutely.
Got mine. it's amazing. It can quite literally play any game I throw at it. I haven't gotten it to stumble yet.
I wonder how 720p gaming in 2022 feels like, is it really amazing?
It's absolutely fine, you honestly won't notice it. It's 215 PPI, that's higher than a 24 inch 4k monitor at 183 PPI. I only wish it was a Freesync panel.
There are 3 things I wish were different about it. I wish they had used a Zen 3 CPU, A VRR panel, and that the thumb sticks were 1 mm shorter. The travel between sticks and buttons is a bit further than I'm used to on an Xbox controller. Otherwise the device is pretty perfect, ergonomics are excellent and battery life has been pretty phenomenal.
>It's 215 PPI, that's higher than a 24 inch 4k monitor at 183 PPI
lmao, what a moronic comparison. I can clearly see the pixels in the Deck while I can't see the pixels on a 4K monitor you dumb frick. It's all about screen distance, and the Deck is usually very close to your eyes.
> trash display
> display is too small, but the whole device is too big for comfortable portable gaming
> 720p in 2022
> need to wait months to get one
> garbage battery life
> performance is not quite there yet
even a cheap gaming laptop is better in every single way
anything more than 720p for handheld is a fricking waste
>it's okay when Valve does it
Nintendo and Valve are the only viable options and both do it and both chose correctly
I am a PPI fiend and still 720p at 7 inches is what you want for a modern handheld. The chips that work in handheld devices can't power more than that at 10-15w. I'm 100% serious it's a fricking waste to play 1080p on a handheld. Maybe 10 years from now but we're not there yet. You would need the steam deck to have double the GPU performance at half the wattage to make 1080p the correct resolution for the Deck.
>Maybe 10 years from now but we're not there yet
are you moronic? this will happen much sooner, like in a year
in a year we will not have a chip that doubles the GPU performance of the Deck at half the wattage. You'll see 40% improvements at the same wattage.
>in a year we will not have a chip that doubles the GPU performance of the Deck at half the wattage
you're correct, that chip already exists (M1)
Phoenix Point doubles the IGP performance of Rembrandt at the same power, RDNA3 uplift vs RDNA2, and 4nm EUV vs 6(7nm) DUV.
You could easily double performance over Van Gogh at the same power, get over a 50% improvement in performance at half power.
>Strix Point launches following year after Phoenix
>entirely new core arch
>RDNA3+
>newer process
I for one welcome this new era where we have 10w handhelds with more GPU horsepower than a damn 1650.
oh ok yeah so 50% instead of 40% big difference 🙂
50% uplift at half power is quite different from only a 40% uplift at the same power.
>50% uplift at half power
absolutely not. It will be 50% uplift at the same power.
Phoenix Point's IGP brings a 100% uplift over Rembrandt at the same power.
untrue. I'll believe it when I see it and you are a flaming homosexual for believing it before benchmarks are out in a finished product.
>u-untrue!
Literally twice the ALUs, more registers, higher clocks, Infinity Cache, over 50% higher perf/watt for desktop RDNA3 designs, and Phoenix Point is a more advanced 4nm part than the rest of the 5nm discrete designs. Sorry, homo. It is what it is.
>over 50% higher perf/watt for desktop RDNA3 designs
but you literally do not know this for a fact. You have not seen third parties benchmark it and verify it. I have a bridge to sell you lmao.
>but you literally do not know this for a fact.
Yeah, I do. Its straight from AMD themselves. Just like the uplift from RDNA 1 over Vega, and RDNA2 over RDNA1. Why are you so butthurt about basic facts, homo?
>Its straight from AMD themselves
stop lying to yourself anon, even 1080p has visible pixels with a screen that close.
What the frick else where they gonna do? Their only competitor, the gaytendo switch has a 720p screen.
So tired of these gays mad about 720p on like an 8 inch screen. Calm down moron.
Still got a reservation. Not sure if I still want it though. Probably will break even if I flip it, but probably not worth the effort. It's cheap at least, and 1TB 2230 drives will only keep decreasing in cost.
Why would you flip it to break even? Just cancel.
do you need a portable pc?
>yes
buy it, for the price its worth it a 100%. people will tell you to just gat a gaming laptop. they might have more power but still have limitation regarding future upgrade. Laptop will also require you to carry a mouse and a power supply. The deck have a relatively short battery life but at least you can power it with a regular bank. also they made it so you could tinker with it.
>no
Don't buy it, just stick to a good ol' PC.
for the price it beats a comparable laptop by a mile. And you can use this standing unlike a laptop. Its use cases are unique.
It isn't a meme, the memes are what people failed to understand about it. It's a somewhat niche product because it isn't a console but a portable PC with a different form factor of laptops that wasn't mean to compete with handheld consoles anyway. Basically the product is fine but the narratives built around it were moronic takes filled with wishful thinking.
> NOOOOO, YOU CAN'T COMPARE IT TO PORTABLE CONSOLES!!!!
> IT'S A VERY SPECIAL AND UNIQUE NICHE PRODUCT, PEOPLE ARE moronic FOR COMPARING IT TO BETTER ALTERNATIVES
You can do it, but it's still a portable PC at the end of the day. Like I said a laptop with a different form factor.
it's not really a portable PC. the desktop feels awful to use despite their best efforts and is really just there for brief tinkering moments for things like setting up emudeck. the console mode is much more polished and comfortable. that being said it pretty much blows any other similarly priced handheld console out of the water.
>it's not really a portable PC. the desktop feels awful to use despite their best efforts and is really just there for brief tinkering moments
It's still a portable PC, the deskstop sucking is another problem. You could even blame it on the distro they're using.
>it pretty much blows any other similarly priced handheld console out of the water.
Not like there's a lot of competition.
> it's still a portable personal computer
even an iPhone is a personal computer
it really isn't
Let us know how Elden Ring performs on an iPhone
The latest iPhone runs Genshin Impact with better performance than the Steam Deck, meaning it indeed has the horsepower to run Elden Ring.
Have you not realized that's cause the iPhone is running a version especially optimized for iPhone hardware? That's like saying that consoles are better than PC because they can run games better than an equally priced PC. Have you also not realized the latest iPhone is $1000+ and the Steam Deck is $400? God, are you autistic?
>That's like saying that consoles are better than PC because they can run games better than an equally priced PC
that's not true at all tho
>the latest iPhone is $1000+ and the Steam Deck is $400?
top kek, you're comparing the most expensive iphone to the cheapest steam deck, the absolute state.
>the iPhone is running a version especially optimized for iPhone hardware?
Genshin is a project made with the Unity Engine, all platforms basically share the same source code.
>top kek, you're comparing the most expensive iphone to the cheapest steam deck, the absolute state
that anon said the latest, latest is iphone pro 13, cheapest iphone pro 13 is $999 dumb Black person
I literally could not be happier with mine, best consoomer electronic I've ever bought
>best consoomer electronic I've ever bought
why?
I dunno they don't ship to my country so I don't care
It's amazing
The IQfyirgin in me is telling me it's a godsend, I can play my whole Steam library and emulate a lot of games (including Switch) perfectly fine.
The IQfytard in me is happy I can actually repair and upgrade my own fricking electronics and customize everything instead of having to deal with gaytendo whenever their shitty hardware fails, like I'd even need to repair the Steam Deck, build quality is great. It's great with a 1TB SSD I upgraded it with.
All in all best electronic I've bought in a long time, would be better if they didn't frick up the fans and if Valve could actually fricking push units out the door, my bros reserved in the first week and they're still stuck in Q3, I just barely got mine.
Have fun fixing the sticks then, because that's one thing where Valve made the same mistake the console makers are doing currently.
I mean
I haven't had a problem with the sticks yet after a few months, even then they'd HAVE to be better than the nightmare that is those shitty joy cons or whatever. All it has to compete with is the Switch and low end gaming laptops, kek
>Have fun fixing the sticks then
Looks super easy to replace them. Also I've seen third party ones somewhere that used hall effect.
I have one. I like it! Runs most games fine, you can do whatever you want with it too. Pretty nifty gadget.
I thought I would get one for playing in bed. But then I remembed how I fricked my back up playing Switch in bed.
valve are a bunch of hobbyists that got lucky, not professionals
they don't understand their laissez faire attitude is never gonna cut it in the hardware industry
You're just an idiot spouting moronic bullshit
You don't understand anything about hardware or software industry
>made for hardcore gamers
>uses fricking linux with a shitty illegal hack of windows that is fricking terrible most of the time
Don't know why anyone took it seriously.
Wine is 100% legal
Cope harder
>make a proprietary, pay2own (or licensed on pcs) OS
>it's copyrighted
>some shitlord comes along and makes a fricking FLOSER program to run programs your PROPRIETARY, COPYRIGHTED, PAY2USE OS runs
>"this isn't fricking illegal kek"
How MS hasn't fricking destroyed every single fricking copy of Wine and its derivatives on the internet yet is beyond me.
Because it turns out that you understand even less about software than the people who make the laws. Which in this day and age is something of an accomplishment.
Jesus frick, this is the absolute cope of GAHNUU + LEENUX fanboys. YEAH RUNNING WINDOWS CODE IS 100% LEGAL BECAUSE WE SAY IT'S LEGAL.
Do you not understand that fricking non-free, proprietary systems are, you know, restricted and protected by copyright? Talk about someone who doesn't understand software.
You clearly don't know the first thing about copyright law. You could make a perfect 1-to-1 copy of windows (minus any copyrighted or trademarked elements of the UI, of course), and it would be totally legal so long as you can prove that you didn't use or even look at any of the proprietary, trademarked sourcecode.
*copyrighted sourcecode
>so long as you can prove that you didn't use or even look at any of the proprietary, trademarked sourcecode.
That's backwards. They would have to prove that you did.
It's a mutual argument. The end result is the same.
as it stands right now it would probably be ruled fair use like Google vs Oracle
in that case Microsoft even defended Google and said APIs should not be copyrightable
Aftermarket protection, you cant force someone to only use your specific thing or force people not to use other brands on say your car.
Likely falls under similar laws to emulation. If you own the software or a license to it, you can run it on whatever you want it you're able.
So right now the 35w mobile 6900hs is faster than a desktop 1050ti. RDNA 3 is a big uplift over current gen stuff, some compiler patches show it to have 128ALUs per CU. AMD are saying the arch is over 50% more efficient than RDNA2.
When we start moving beyond FinFETs the performance in these low power parts is going to be just absolutely crazy. It won't be long before we see 1080ti performance in some tiny handheld.
>128ALU
will the go like Nvidia where half of it does INT8 and FP32 every other cycle?
I'm still going to buy one.
Got mine the other day, it's a neat little device. I use it when I have long train rides or when away from home for a long time.
Can I install fedora on it? Or gentoo?
Yes
>What happend to it?
most successful valve product to date. waiting list is like a year in advance.
Was it a meme?
Your thread is a meme
Some of us had a cheaper solution. Steam users already game on the PC. Now pic when outside can play many console games. If in range of the wifi can stream those same PC games to the device, all you have to do then is configure the controls.
I'm getting use to have a portable linux machine and sometimes play games from gog
I'll probably just erase steamos and install plain arch if it doesn't cause too many issues
Got one in the first batch they shipped and still like it and use it almost daily. It has only gotten better with the updates. Biggest improvement were the fan control update and the underclocking of the display. Would definitely buy again, even if I wasn't a perverted penguin lover.
Wage-slave here.
I bring mine to work to game during my lunch break. I play the hundreds of indie titles sitting in my library that I likely never would have touched on my PC. It makes getting through the day easier.
I've noticed that some co-workers have started bringing their Switches to work and a few others have been vocal about placing an order for a Deck of their own.
Deck owner bros, what's your honest, realistic list of the hardware bits that could have been better? 10 hour playing at 4k 144fps isn't realistic.
>huge bezels are a waste of space
>fan still can be annoying
>glued in battery
>no dual stage triggers like the steam controller
>abxy button should be rotated clockwise a tiny bit, I have trouble pressing b+y in MonHun
>haptic feedback is weak ass
Are you stupid or a bot? It's selling more than the valve index and they are having trouble shipping them out
>It's selling more than the valve index
it's not hard to beat an overpriced and old VR in sales anon, specially with the Quest 2 around
> they are having trouble shipping them out
that's because their manufacturing capacity is pathetic, not because it's selling like the iPhone
I'm still fricking waiting for mine. It's been a fricking year valve, just FRICKING SHIP IT ALREADY REEE
the on screen keyboard is full moron
also needs illuminated buttons and the steam button is horrible to find/press
No light plox, just make it stand out more physically so you can feel the button properly.
Hype died out, it's a meme
Shitty Leenoox machine that will be discontinued in a year or two
What happened to it? It's selling like hotcakes, you dumb Microsoft homosexual.
OP here, I use linux Black person, it just seems like everybody stopped talking about the console and it became just another valve hardware meme
All three models are currently the top selling product on Steam.
>Data provided by ~~*Valve*~~
What isn't a conspiracy, ((anonymous))?
>(())
>instead of ~~**~~
If those are the top sellers then why even buy the games?
As far as I know top seller status is the total sales value, not units sold. So a game at $40 would have to sell 10x copies of the deck units sold to get the top spot.
huh i thought that it was supposed to cost much more
>more people are buying the Index, a luxury VR headset for 999 dollarydollars than have preordered a 20 buckeribucks FOTM indie game
lol nah.
it's the sole device that is pushing linux systems in steam stats.
man, I haven't used my deck in like a month. It's the curse of handhelds. However new and shiny it is, it will eventually lose out to something small and more portable. I am back on my retroid 2+ playing shadowrun SNES and E.V.O again
Isn't the battery life dogshit?
Kinda defeats the purpose of mobile bingbing wahoo
It's okay.
Only if you're a moron that even wants to play AAA games set all the graphic settings to maximum.
I get 4 hours in Elden Ring and 7 hours in The Binding Of Isaac, everything else is kinda in between those two.
You can push it past 10 hours with some plugins and low end games.
Very nice. Now lets see Huang Chin Zhao's Steam Deck.
The battery life is very good. Mostly because it can't play any demanding games due to being ARM-based.
how do you type on this thing? looks like it could be pretty uncomfortable
I've got a Steam Controller and a Deck, Valve developed a touchpad based typing system when their controller first came out. I certainly wouldn't write an essay with it, but after about a day I could type quickly enough that I shitpost here with it, type in urls, etc.
nice. i think i could live with it. i did use a full qwerty keyboard on my 4" phone for years and that was insanely small.. in vertical mode of course before you say something about it not being that bad
Always wondered about that.
The 12 year old me always wanted some type of game console but also a PC. Basically a PSP on steroids.
After really thinking a smartphone is better, not for gaming but everything else just because of the typing interface.
I guess my dream of a comfy combined game and shitpost machine will stay a dream.
a android smartphone could do many of the things a pc can. even easier with custom roms like postmarketos
When I say PC I mean the very basics, like going on any full website, go to places like YouTube, the kind of shit you still needed a full PC for back in 2005-2006.
The dream is somewhat realized with basically any smartphone which does what most people used a PC for, including the one in my hand, despite that I still have the weird desire for a combined device.
psp for example is just a arm based device with custom software. if you were autistic enough you could probably get linux or something running on it but because everything is insanely bloated these days you absolutely wont be able to open a site like youtube on it... not enough ram for that but simpler sites should work maybe even with the built in browser of the default os
I remember back in highschool a friend of mine managed to get Linux working on an original Xbox. No idea what distro it was, though.
I remember running windows 98 on psp but it worked like shit.
Onscreen popup keyboard, useable with touch or
The keyboard is honestly the worst part, but it's not meant for typing so whatever.
The touchpad mouse is shockingly good to use, takes a moment to get used to like using a Thinkpad clitmouse for the first time.
>not portable
>bigger than a bible
>batteries don't last
>screen is shit unless you get the most expensive model
>literally digital camera storage from 2003
>barely half of the games on steam work properly
>the half of games that do work, have bugs
>louder than your mother
Its basically a shitty laptop with a controller glued on, anyone who fell for this meme is literally a beta tester for Gabe Newell, all because he has a vendetta against microsoft.
>all because he has a vendetta against microsoft.
wtf i love valve now
Yeah, slurp that proprietary steam drm cum where you don't own anything, valve really cares about open source and freedom, LMAO.
>OMG THIS BILLIONARE DICK FEELS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THIS OTHER BILLIONARE DICK
Absolute state of freetards.
its not healthy to seethe this hard. steams drm if even used is one of the least malicious ones out there and very easy to strip off if you want to
i'd rather have a proprietary DRM botnet that i can keep contained than one that i can't.
That's the difference between a freetard (open source shill) and an actual free/libre software enjoyer
Yeah, shills will root for big companies pushing for mass adoption and freetards will whine and seethe hoping only their small social circle can ever use Linux.
I take a look at reviews every once in a while and there's almost nothing but praise. It's permanently sold out since everyone's buying one and it has no viable competition. Seems like this one isn't a meme.
I'll buy one once it's available in my third world shithole, looks good for emulation.
portable linux pc that runs windows games
works as advertised (80% of the time)
the amount of moronness itt
We have one at the office, it's pretty nice.
My main issue with it is the single port, so you can't charge and connect it to a TV as the same time unless you have a docking station. - who thought this Apple design was a good idea?
I agree, the lack of a secondary USB-C port is honest to god the only thing I hate about this thing in terms of hardware.
Dongles are cheap and available thanks to Apple, but even if I disregarded that, a port on the bottom would have been ideal to charge it in different positions and would have bern better for docking.
i am still waiting to actually order one, the demand for it is so fricking huge you have no idea.
>have a home server with GPU
>use parsec on my system
>load up parsec on my smartphone
>play 60fps <15 ms latency games streamed from my home
How do you control the games?
With a controller attached to your phone? Parsec has controller config so it can send your controller commands to your desktop/server PC at home.
>15ms
>acceptable
Streamgay delusion
The keyboard and mouse you are using most likely have a latency of above 20ms so 15ms is fine.
I use a 1KHz wired mouse you fricking moron
Who said anything about competition?
wireless mice have less latency than wired mice, moron
STFU you dumb Black person. You're not playing competitive game on a 5 inch screen over in any scenario.
input latency causes nausea even in walking simulators you moronic piece of shit.
>15 ms latency
holy fricking cope
Honestly how is the Steam deck? Is it Android levels of pozed/cucked, or is there freedom and respect for the user?
It's Arch+KDE. It has systemd if that bothers you, but what I thought was interesting is that there is no admin password by default which prevents accidental running of sudo commands but there's nothing stopping you from setting up a password and doing anything you could normally do on a Linux system.
Surprisingly competent choice. 3.0 seems like a major improvement over the abomination that was old SteamOS.
Thanks for the clarification. I might get the 2nd or 3rd in the future.
Isn't this the chick who took a load to the face then gave the dude the finger
they all kind of look the same
steamOS comes with a read only filesystem so you either need to stick to flatpaks/appimages or setup an overlayfs to get around new updates wiping changes to the system. some anon installed gentoo on his and ripped the steam ui scripts from steamOS to get the functional UI back, so you can do whatever the frick you want, really
you can change the filesystem to read/write according to the documentation
Another SpaceX Starlink launch in ~2 hours 20 mins
>plays strategy games in your path
Mine just arrived on Friday. So far I've been messing with the desktop mode. I have a couple of cool ideas that I think will make using it a unique and powerful experience. Most notably, the left touch pad doesn't do much besides right click by default. What I want to do is create two independent mouse pointers using both touch pads and remap right/left clicks to the triggers. I think this could be really fun for click-intensive games like RTS.
I remember on X you could have 2 cursors but it wasn't very usable because all the software expected only 1 cursor.
You will most likely have the same issue with the steam deck.
I've experimented with two mouses before and I'm certain it will work for at least multitasking if not within the same application. You could play two Runescape accounts this way for sure.
There's a really good mapping for desktop mode in the controller settings that turns the left pad into a scroll wheel. It should be the default, the default mapping shit
where do I get it?
I have not seen a single owner of this who has complained about the resolution
Because deck owners don't leave their homes. Why is this difficult for you to understand
The only people interested are too young to know of the steam controller DOA, steam box DOA or even the v1 index controller issues.
I didn't buy one because I'm over the age of 8. All IQfy threads should be banned from this board for underage postings.
I had doubts and regrets about mine but now that I think about it I've been playing with it pretty much daily ever since I got it. I mostly just play casual stuff in the evenings when I have time these days though. I'd stick to a desktop if I was a hardcore gaymer.
It's fricking awesome!
-play most current games
-play dos games via dosbox
-play console games via emulation
-watch series/movies
-video call
-hook it up to a dock, switch to desktop moade and do everything you can do with a pc
-press power button to pause your game and resume later again with a power button press
-hook up a power bank for those long trips
-replace the SSD with a 1TB one
-replace all other parts if you want via ifixit
-touch screen, trackpads, d-pad, thumbstick, back buttons, r1, r2, you've got it all!
-awesome speakers, good mics
>video call
it has a camera? that's gay
Thank you for reading, no it does not, but if you attach one you can!
so its basically a portable computer? just requires that the dock thing also lets you attach a real keyboard and mouse too
I don't see the point of it. Whenever I'm out of the house I'm actively doing something. Whenever I'm in the house I've got my pc.
it's basically the Raspberry Pi all over again:
>stage 1: product sells so fricking well nobody can even get their hands on one
>stage 2: some butthole keeps posting threads on IQfy calling product a meme and pretending like they're useless in the hopes that sales slow down (YOU ARE HERE)
>stage 3: eventually this butthole gets sick of making the same thread every day, shifts to making threads to whine about the shortages and lack of availability
>stage 4: butthole finally gets the product, shifts to spamming threads about how fricking awesome the product is
Many humans are like that indeed.
so uuuuuh how would i go about running some .exe files from folders like "IGG.TESV"?
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. You're welcome btw chuds!
Try harder, baito-kun
as soon as I learn CAD i'm going to make a system like that but with a real split keyboard like an Iris or something. I can't believe that doesn't exist already.
Honesty kinda hope I get a desk before summer is out because It'd be nice to be able to play something when its too hot for the desktop to be on.
>It'd be nice to be able to play something when its too hot for the desktop to be on.
You know that valve told people not to play it in the heat, right? it probably has worse thermals than your desktop, and if it doesn't, a dollar fan can be aimed at your desktop to solve the problem.