>The taming and domestication of religion is one of the unceasing chores of civilization. Those who pretend that we can skip this stage in the present case are deluding themselves and asking for trouble not just in the future but in the immediate present.
Is he right? He says Islam veils women and glorifies conquest over rational debate
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>"Actually I changed my mind, you should go die for Israel, God Bless America and Muh Democracy™"
>Is he right?
he was refuted by Rene Guenon
It’s not the 1800s anymore.
Ah yes, we have "progressed" past those dark times of opreshun of trans womyn and BIPOC morons.
These people aged extremely poorly because none of them event put in the effort to understand the traditions they were supposedly critiquing. They were a flash in the pan, a momentary part of the zeitgeist, but outside of that little cultural moment, when viewed from the distance, one realizes that they’re catchphrases and quips never addressed anything of ultimate importance, they really didn’t have much to say.
You wish. The more power religion will claim (which it always inevitably does), the more fondly people will look back on the new atheists and be inclined to admit that they may have had a point
no one is going to remember dawkins or hitchens in 20 years, save a few cringe redditors.
Meanwhile, reality continues churning along, monotonically undermining the whole content of religion.
We'll see. This will only be true if religion doesn't try to control absolutely every aspect of everyone's life, and in the end doesn't embarrasingly fail at it, two scenarios which I find highly unlikely
Compassion that shines through in their legalization of abortion?
Yes.
An interesting and sharp contrast to Islam, the womb is regarded as having the etymology of mercy with God Himself affirming the womb is named for His mercy
That's the same in Christian societies, it was the norm in the West until very recently.
That's a product of post-modernity and israeli (semitic) subversion. Also, in cases where we see compassion, it is taken to the extreme and used to trick us to harm our societies, like in the case of importing millions of 3rd world morons (often muslims) who bring massive amounts of violent crime and rape who hate us. None of this represents a normal society.
As for abortion, I really don't mind them suppressing the black and Hispanic lower class, since there is no other way currently. But the radical activists are idiot propaganda victims who hate themselves and the world.
If you look at the secularized strains of Christianity you quickly come to the conclusion that they have little to do with some “spirit of Christianity” and rather hold a series of beliefs shaped by the material constraints of the modern world. The reason why the same hasn’t been done as extensively to Islam is because it’s predominant outside the west where these constraints are the strongest but Hitchens has to attribute it to some inherent property of Islam because of his politics
The idea that people like this would get burnt at the stake vack in the day brings a smile to my face
Why is he so deformed? Why is he so angry? Perhaps his sprawling skull and tiny body, contain within their irregularity, an explanation for his likewise imbalanced humours.
If white people are so wise, why are they letting themselves be destroyed? So many countries, which were predomenently white, are now filled with muslims and blacks; white girls see no problem in dating with other races etc. You may say it's the israelites or whatever, but, if it's not something being done by the white people, why don't they react? Aren't they supposed to be smart and notice their downfall? Aren't they supposed to be stronger?
>If white people are so wise, why are they letting themselves be destroyed?
This isn't inherent to whites, it is inherent to decadent modern/postmodern society, which unfortunately found fertile ground in the West due to their more "luciferian" tendencies.
>; white girls see no problem in dating with other races etc.
This is true to all races in the West. Women in the West now normally do not have strong male guides, in fact they are told to fight against this. And technically, nonwhites miscegenate at higher levels.
>if it's not something being done by the white people, why don't they react? Aren't they supposed to be smart and notice their downfall? Aren't they supposed to be stronger?
They do react, white people are at the forefront of fighting this and represent the largest faction against it in the West. They are the only ones putting up a fight. Even normalgay republican voters or working class white brits recognise they are being replaced, but they have no institutional power and are barred from obtaining it. It's like you only pay attention to constructs of the cultural mainstream.
One of the biggest problems with the new atheists is that they don't understand that their own views of the world are shaped by the vaguely Christian society they were all raised in. Even if Saudi Arabia were to become atheist overnight, they would still veil women and glorify conquest, since their idea of morality would still be shaped by Islam.
>Even if Saudi Arabia were to become atheist overnight, they would still veil women
When Turkey and Iran were secular they banned veiling. Many people in Egypt right now want to ban veiling in public.
I don't know about Turkey, but Iran banning the veil was part of a controversial agenda to westernize the country, which contributed to the Iranian Revolution. Either way, neither of those countries are Wahabbi, which is the fundamentalist sect of Islam.
And one of the main problems of monotheists is that the same holds true about polytheism
>Is he right?
No