The traditional big cities are all culturally dead. NYC, London, Paris etc have all had their day.
What is the next great IQfycity or town where literature and philosophy will experience their renaissance?
I'm going with Buenos Aires. I foresee a great migration of Western artists and other eccentrics to the capital, possibly seeking to escape the pervasive digitalisation of humanity and yearning for a return to traditional art forms.
Hong Kong
How can art flourish under the iron heel of the CCP?
You've clearly never actually been to China.
Even the airport is aesthetic as frick, the Chinese have so much money that they pump out lots of great simply as a statistical inevitability (a lot of it is really bad too, especially when they ape western designs, like the China Senate House is hideous). The future absolutely is in the Orient.
You’ve clearly never been to China either…
Keep seething white meat, you had your time in the sun and it was more than you deserved.
We all noticed you didn’t deny you’ve never been there.
I go there several times a year for work, and who gives a shit what you think when you're all mentally conditioned to irrationally fear and hate China by your owners? I mean look at this delusional moron
JFK looks like an oversized garage.
You're absolutely right China is not only beautiful and cultured but it's also the next USA. In fact, give it a few years and I think Taiwan will be China and we'll all be learning Mandarin. Absolutely anon.
I love seeing the same cherrypicked clips over and over on this website, it doesn't scream insecurity and mental illness at all. China is a big place with a lot of people, again there is such a thing as statistical inevitability.
Show me one video from Western Europe of anything remotely similar. I'll wait. In the meantime, seethe and dilate homosexual.
And what will that prove, especially to a brainwashed moron like yourself? You don't think construction workers take shortcuts or buildings collapse in the west?
A bunch of people in a random building collapse here in Florida last year iirc. There was something similar in Germany in the 2000s I remember. But what does it matter? China has twice the population of Europe, that adding up all the incidents in Europe and doubling them will produce unflattering results is obvious to anyone who isn't intellectually disabled. Maybe there isn't as much footage of it though because this fetish the west has only goes one way to deal with their need to cope and propagandize.
You sound like you're worried about your social credit score?
You're the one that sounds desperately insecure with your stale memes and rotting brain and nation.
>A bunch of people in a random building collapse here in Florida last year iirc.
Yeah but it was ok, it was a condo so only rich gays and retired boomers died.
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>Show me one video from Western Europe of anything remotely similar.
kek some masterrace
>government building falls down and kills people
>take a look
>realize all of the construction materials for the subway were sold or stolen
the Germans are fricked anyway. Their culture will go down in the foreseeable future
>hurr durr these don't count because no true X Y Z
Cope cope cope yeah I don't know why I bothered with this thread actually, was hoping maybe someone would say something sane in reply.
You’re a liar
Only because you need me to be.
Share some photos you took of your trip
I don't take photos on business trips because I'm not a homosexual or a woman. I'm not sure which you are though, what kind of moron actually thinks anyone would post personal photos on this website? I don't care what you believe, reality persists anyway and it is very much against you.
What a coincidence!
Art and culture is restricted in China. It will not happen. End of.
That's the most disgusting interior I've ever seen in my life. Makes me question your tastes, anon...
It's nicer in person because of the lighting, and anyway it beats JFK.
Doubt it. It looks overwrought to frick. And look at that tiling. Jesus, is it the 70's? They couldn't even get a solid geometric pattern on the ceiling like the Islamic world mastered. Frick me. I literally think JFK is better compared to the pile of chink shit. Unironically. Sorry anon, you've just dreadful taste.
China might become important as a model for Western nations but you are absolutely delusional if you think a Western rebirth is going to happen in an non-Western country. We will have to fix our own house.
I don't think anyone really expects Western culture to recover.
On the other hand, I can enjoy the Asian equivalent of a cowboy movie any day of the week. They're generally good and well choreographed.
> I don't think anyone really expects Western culture to recover.
And why not? I think it will. Even in our American inner cities there is potential for a cultural rebirth.
do you really, in your heart, believe what you say?
Yes, I do. Wandering the streets of two big cities near me convinced me of this, actually. America is hurting, certainly, and that hurt is reflected in a damaged culture: atomized and in despair. But even there you see hope. You see murals, and people chatting, and people reading, singing, and everything else that suggests these people, my people, have potential. We are down but not out.
Do you do any drugs before you do this or…?
I don’t do drugs. I blame drugs for a lot of the misery in this country. But I am feeling more optimistic than ever, when it comes to drugs. America will be free of fentanyl and opioids.
That is surprising. When I walk around like you do I get depressed.
I’m not sure if I share your optimism but I respect it
I hope you’re right anon, things are looking pretty bleak at the moment
homosexual
i hope you get your shit together, because its sad watching you go down in this way... we in europe had hopes for you, we hoped that you will grow up before you go down...
This may be the gayest comment I've ever read on this board. kys homosexual. Who's 'we'? Who in 'Europe'? All of Europe? Speak for yourself, gypsy.
Anon is right. The thing about the USA is it is always inventing itself because it can, and it can because its people are born to shitty parents who are always reinventing themselves.
This is a recurrence function that produces a lot of chaos, but a lot of change as well.
There's something coming. I don' believe this; I know it, because that is the story we tell, and we can tell no other.
(shooting for 20303869)
I can't believe you're serious man. Your language and the feel I'm getting from your post seems honest and genuine and if you are, props. But.
Western culture's been on a consistent decline for decades now. There's been consistent inner city "renaissances" since the 1920's. (although most of the modern ones are... political advertising) To believe it's fixable is to ignore every past "renaissance" and the consistent downhill slope or our civilization.
america seems dead, like this thread...
Every generation is convinced they're living in the end days lol. And yet cultures continue to evolve, develop, and bloom. New movements are spawned etc etc. None of this is true in China, however, where freedom of thought is all state-sanctioned. That'll kill a civilization for sure.
What? Civilizations have died and never returned many times. If you're talking about culture, there most certainly are end days.
> Civilizations have died and never returned many times.
Civilizations under specific circumstances: natural catastrophe, war, pestilence, famine, economic collapse, population decline, and mass migration. NOT because a society has learned to tolerate trans people. If America collapses, it'll be because of capitalism.
there has never been trans people before this era and trans people are a direct consequence of excess capital not capitalism
I certainly think America faces deep problems and many of these problems are decades old (some are centuries old). But I look at history and I see that there have been movements towards progress, often pushed against but still moving forward. Artistically, scientifically, we have been a very creative nation and I expect that will continue. Our problem comes from the several things, like a failure of labor movements, a looting of social programs, etc. But the Americans of the Gilded Age must have been pretty despondent too. They could not have imagined the New Deal or the cultural and economic boom of the mid 20th century. If people whose children were worked to death in mines were able to overcome their challenges, we certainly can overcome ours.
So, knowing that Blackrock has acquired GPT, what is your plan?
You're just a politician. Empty promises, selling hope you can't achieve, a dream you can't make true. And you're going to drag people to hell with you.
well china has one big problem. the rich are all newly rich, so they didn't have time to bring forth interesting fruits. i never red the "die rote kammer" but i guess, it shows how importent generations are
Marxism is a means to select out the good from the bad in world culture and use it to construct a new world in a modern era. It doesn't run perfectly but that's the general idea.
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It can't flourish. It why most of their culture is imported. Most of China watches Korean dramas. This is the same country that was censoring parts of the little prince for mentioning god.
newsflash, the 80s and 90s are over
>Buenos Aires
Jajajajajajajaja no mames Black detureputaconchamadre
Moscow.
Lmao that's never coming back.
Maybe Latin America in about 50 years. At the moment there is no country where the arts can flourish, all lands are sterile.
>possibly seeking to escape the pervasive digitalisation of humanity and yearning for a return to traditional art forms.
This
The next big city has to be connected to the digital world.
My guess is, since SF is in decline, and many moving to Austin.
Austin will become expensive, SF is going to become the 1972-1980 New York
So yeah sf might be the next hub.
My other take it’s that the next cultural hub will be not here in IQfy but somewhere that’s similar in some aspects.
We need anonymity to say everything, but we also need consistency of good content (threads, collabs, etc.)
Physical locations are old school. The next renaissance will happen online.
spoken like a true moronic zoomer, your discord troony friends won't start any renaissance gay
The internet is where culture goes to die.
None, dude. That era is over.
How bout you get some mates
Big cities were a mistake. Heaps of human biomass and detritus. Cities are only good for a single generation when people from the countryside move in.
I'd hate being around urbanite Chads and Stacys surrounded by 180 meters tall skyscrapers that I'll never set foot in or own if I was an ugly incel too.
It has nothing to do with cities, it's because of social media and everyone being too distracted to think. Only bored people can become good at literature.
The fact that when I go to my local city all I see are Dominican flags and smell is Dominican food and hear is Dominican music, doesn’t help.
How delightfully multicultural!
You get to enjoy yummy food and funky Caribbean rhythms!
I await the hipsters being flushed out of New York, they’ve infested the city far too long.
Hipsters are old as frick and have no social mobility to go anywhere else unless they have ~~*family*~~. Billyburg will stay israeli for the foreseeable future.
They’re not even exclusive to Williamsburg, they’re all over Brooklyn and have been since at least the 60s.
New York is over. The city will decline in population from here on out.
imagine being this wrong about anything
Have you ever heard of the city Chicago and the state Illinois?
NY was a shithole in the 70s yet it hasn't been chicago'd or detroit'd quite yet
that's because the suburbs like queens and staten island are able to vote for the city government which stops it from getting totally baltimore. nyc is kinda unique in that way.
I am not from the US, are Queens and Staten Island the nicer areas then?
Wasn't there also some governor or bureaucrat who recently proposed crime legisilation a la California?
I remember watching Taxi Driver and reading up about how bad it was in the 70s - it was certainly a dump, but I imagine the city is wealthier now, but also filled with more violent groups...
Don't know about whatever legislation you're talking about, but NYC is literally safer now than it was in the 50s
Doesn't mean it's not a shithole
It's ok to not want to live in the city, you don't have to make it about societal decline or whatever
Weren't you the one who was telling me that the only reason it hasn't been detroit'd was because there remains some middle class folk who don't vote for morons?
it's not necessarily that they're nicer, i mean is anything nicer than the upper east side or whatever, but they have a lot of single family homes with a lot of high middle class but not super wealthy tier people who generally vote moderately.
You don't know shit if you think queens is safe. Yeah sure come to the hood and get shanked up by Mexicans.
>are Queens and Staten Island the nicer areas then?
I was asking a question you moronic beaner, you think i'm from your shithole city? No, i'm not.
you should see the luxury towers going up in my neighborhood dude, it's insane like a new manhattan rising out of old parking lots right in front of your eyes.
>will experience their renaissance?
No one tell him
Only real choices are Georgia, Azerbaijan, Slovakia, Hungary and Uruguay. The rest are either subverted by the NGOs already (most of Europe, Mexico, Argentina, Chile, Taiwan, South Korea), are about to lose to the NGOs (Czechia, Poland) or are simply not going to let you go and stay there for one reason or another (Russia, China, Serbia, Japan and so on).
i like the idea of uruguay becoming a major center for cultural development
Japan is pretty easy to live in, or at least it was until COVID scared them senseless. What is your rationale for the others? What is so good about Uruguay and Slovakia?
>Japan is pretty easy to live in, or at least it was until COVID scared them senseless
They're not going to let foreigners in again for a long time, especially not ones who can only contribute English teaching at most.
The rest are the best balance between westerner friendiness, NGO/academic influence and quality of life. Like the Czech Republic is richer than Slovakia, but CR is very NGOified while Slovakia is not. Armenia has more culture and places of interest for most westerners, but they hate people from NATO states unless they're Armenian diaspora.
They'll let in foreigners but they'll make them feel so restricted and unwelcome that foreigners will lose interest. What are you using to suggest Slovakia is not NGOified? Slovakia is also a NATO country. So is Hungary.
>What are you using to suggest Slovakia is not NGOified? Slovakia is also a NATO country. So is Hungary.
Hungary has a pragmatic non-liberal government that should keep it together for as long as they're in power.
Slovakia is small and unimportant, there aren't aggressive campaigns to overthrow the Catholic populist status quo like there is in Poland.
>georgia
>not subverted by NGOs
already forgotten about saakashvili, eh?
Hungary definitely
Minsk, Copenhagen, Salvador, Kampala, Osaka, York
Come to Cape Town, guys
It's really not that bad
10 more years and there won't be any whites left.
South Africa really went down hill after Rhodesia fell.
If you're white, please just move to Australia. I'd hate to see your head on a spike while a bunch of jigaboos dance around it
>yearning for a return to traditional art forms.
you have literally 0 grounds to judge the cultural life of any city lmfao
maybe try uh twitter groyper circles, or tumblr, which would obviously be more your scene
Eh? Why so hostile m8?
Mexico City
>I'm going with Buenos Aires
There should be a movement that finds writers from rural areas, maybe a neo southern gothic movement.
The decrepit and dying small towns filled with eccentrics and meth heads
all of the talented young people from those areas move to the big cities
Not in America
especially in america actually
Maybe in the 1980s dude. They’re not moving for the big city lights anymore.
uh yes they are. did a meteor hit the planet in 1990 or something
most places on earth, even the small town and rural areas tend to be receptive and open-minded towards culture and art
this situation doesn't exist at all in north america, where you literally HAVE to flee to a big cosmopolitan city if you want any hope of not being surrounded by systematic philistinism
You don’t know what you’re talking about and you’ve never lived outside of North America, probably never left.
It won't be a city, it will be some sort of cyberspace/metaverse type shit.
Sandusky, Ohio
Sandusky is the greatest place man has ever known.
Why is it that these threads always attract the biggest gays of IQfy?
Hey asshat, no one cares about what cities you think are “played out”, you’re just a poser that wants to be seen as hip and cultured rather than actually making the effort of getting cultured.
Everyone hates your guts.
NYC gay detected
You got HUSTLED
You talk like a yank homosexual, please stop typing
Miami
Possibly Los Angeles when a decently large group of the Zoomers over there stop being homosexuals and start a literary counter-culture.
>rent: 3000 USD for a broom closet
Nope, LA will attract a lot of giant homosexual sons and daughters of the upper middle class who think they are artists, but it will not create any art.
Besides, Los Angeles is completely without soul.
cope lmao
lmao what a moron
Even Pornography has decline in quality.
> What is the next great IQfycity or town where literature and philosophy will experience their renaissance?
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>What is the next great IQfycity or town where literature and philosophy will experience their renaissance?
Wherever I'm at. I'll probably end up setting in a remote town in Vermont.
Bell Gardens, California is the next great IQfy city.
They're not culturally dead at all dude. Not only does a lot of art, music, etc still get made in for example NYC, but you can also soak up a lot of historical culture in NYC very easily. There are so many landmarks, museums, parks, etc that are still there. The whole city is like a big culture museum. So if you live in NYC like I used to, you have a privilege to access endless culture, historical and current, that you can't get in fricking Buenos Aires or much other cities at all really. I've been to Boston, there's nothing there, and that's one of the biggest cities in America. You really can't compare to NYC easily. How the frick is it culturally dead? How /misc/ is your brain to see culture you dislike as "not culture"? At least admit that all the culture you like is still there to be looked at in NYC, cause the old landmarks and museums aren't gone or anything.
You don’t get it bro, people don’t want museums to jerk off to the accomplishments of the past, they want NEW culture, they want to feel they live in a time and place where culture is thriving.
It’s like Europe, a fricking museum where old people jerk off over past achievements.
No future for the young
Damn you are so fricking wrong my dude.
I can se las Vegas being the new Paris before Buenos Aires
I'm just glad hipsters haven't discovered Riga yet
>What is the next great IQfycity
Japan.
You are angry because you know I'm right.
Not angry, Japan is cool.
I feel like I'm having a stroke whatever I see people praise China. China is just another flavor of hell if you think the west is bad. Look at what is currently going on in China. The CCP are just like the israeli elite you despise. They are very rich and only care for themselves. I guess we will all come to understand this under future rule of China.
Nomad bros, we fricking won!
Sedentary cucks cope and seethe
"Marfa is the last bastion of the enlightenment" - Rudi Fuchs
Next one is Tirana, Albania
Also lmaoing at this tiny dick chink trying to convince us China is anything but one big sweat shop and as soon as that well dries up they will be crushed like the bugs they are
>art exhibits get stolen 5 minutes after they’re put up
this is the worst thread on IQfy ever.
The perfect storm of obnoxious self-importance, pretentiousness, misplaced provincialism and nationalism.
You're just jealous that you don't live in Sandusky
>I foresee a great migration of Western artists and other eccentrics to the capital, possibly seeking to escape the pervasive digitalisation of humanity and yearning for a return to traditional art forms
The only people who can afford to move around like that are dipshit "digital nomads" and trust fund kids
He is probably some rich larper who loves to act like some hood rat
Lol at some flyover telling me what the city was like back in the 80s and 90s. Lame ass white b***h.
>Lol at some flyover
In one of my posts I literally said I was not American, you moronic larping low IQ beaner. Imagine being proud of being some Mexican hood rat, there's a reason why your parents fled your homeland you moron
What are you doing here, I doubt you can even put together a decent sentence in English? Maybe you should get your school grades up first and then you can get a job in somewhere nicer than your uncles window cleaning business
It's Atlanta