And it exists. And the fact that it exists proves there is no entity both willing and able to stop it. So if there is a God, he is either not willing or not able to stop the undesired suffering of the innocent. This means one of the following is true:
1. God is not omnipotent
2. God is not omnibenevolent
3. God is neither omnipotent nor omnibenevolent.
4. God doesn't exist.
I'm going with 4. In addition, because the undesired suffering of the innocent is unjustifiable, reality is not a place of perfect justice. But I think everyone knows that. I mean life literally needs to kill and eat other life to survive. How fricked up is that? Thanks, God!
Gonna go with:
5. God exists despite OP's feelings
Are you arguing that suffering is a gift? Poke your eyes out with a knife, then. Bet you won't.
>Are you arguing that suffering is a gift? Poke your eyes out with a knife, then. Bet you won't
Suffering is a gift, it's just that its a shitty gift which you didn't want. Go to the person who gave you the shitty gift, and give it back to them, and politely say, "no thanks". Then give thanks to what is good.
If you are suffering like job suffered, then spread awareness of your gift, so that others don't recieve it.
There is nothing wrong with killing and eating animals you vegan frickhead.
Eating is a necessary evil, but an evil nonetheless. Not a good.
What good is a God like option 3? And how would this God be different from any other being of limited power and benevolence?
>What good is a God like option 3?
The blessings he confers onto the israeli people who keep his commandments
>And how would this God be different from any other being of limited power and benevolence?
He's the only being in existence with any power at all
Well I think Yahweh is an alien for multiple reasons but especially due to the fact that archaeologists discovered that he used to be worshipped alongside his wife Asherah. I think all "myths" are about ancient aliens (Greek Gods, Odin, Anu, Enki&Enlil, the Elohim, Krishna, etc).
>He's the only being in existence with any power at all
Governments can sentence people to death or kill millions of people with nukes. I can step on an ant. I'm pretty sure all entities have some power.
He's the only one who can resurrect the dead
*cough*
Osiris also briefly returned from the dead only to go on to the afterlife afterwards (like a certain someone else in the New Testament...)
Osiris doesn't exist
Neither did Jesus, probably. Anymore so than say Simon Magus or Gilgamesh.
He's certainly more of a myth than a genuine historical figure, yes
>Do any cultures have claims that figures other than Jesus resurrected the dead?
Yes, there are several cultures and religions that have stories or claims of figures other than Jesus resurrecting the dead. Here are a few examples:
1. Ancient Egyptian mythology: The god Osiris was believed to have been resurrected by his wife Isis after being killed and dismembered by his brother Set.
2. Greek mythology: Asclepius, the god of medicine, was said to have the power to bring the dead back to life. In one story, he resurrected Hippolytus, son of Theseus.
3. Norse mythology: The god Odin was believed to have the power to resurrect the dead and was said to have done so on several occasions.
4. Hinduism: In the Mahabharata, the sage Dadhichi gave up his life so that the gods could use his bones to create a weapon to defeat the demons. Later, he was resurrected by the gods.
5. Taoism: The Taoist immortal Lü Dongbin was said to have resurrected a dead man using a magical elixir.
6. Shinto: The goddess Izanami, who died giving birth to the god of fire, was said to have been resurrected by her husband Izanagi.
These stories are part of the mythologies and religious beliefs of these cultures and are not typically considered historical accounts in the same way that the resurrection of Jesus is viewed by Christians.
-Claude 3
Yeah those are all stories without much evidence to back up their claim
>eating is evil
Based on what specifically?
It causes the "undesired suffering of the innocent", which is unjustifiable and therefore evil, despite how necessary it is.
Frankly, eating more meat gives animals bigger brains, so I personally prioritize eating meat for optimal brain health. But this is because it is necessary to gain as much of an advantage in the world as I can, not because it is good to eat.
>eating good
>eating meat increase brain, i.e: better reasoning
>eating meat cause harm to the meat donor
>eating meat bad because that
>therefore increasing reasoning via meat is bad
(homosexual)
or we could take the biologist's approach that predation is healthy for an ecosystem, which would imply that an alien race eating humans to keep the population in check is a good thing for humans in the long run. I just hope they would slaughter humans painlessly, because suffering has no upside (which is my main point here/why I don't believe in a God, because if he exists he made a reality where suffering is necessary, which was unnecessary).
Also you said I said eating was good when I literally said eating was bad, because it shouldn't be necessary for beings to kill other beings just to exist. I'd argue that beings have a right to not only not be eaten, but to not even suffer — just by virtue of existing. But we should at least agree that the innocent shouldn't suffer if they don't want to, yet they do. Thus, no God.
It is not norally wrong to kill animals, they are animals and innocence and guilty need not apply to them. Humans are superior to animals in every conceivable way.
And aliens with IQs of 450 are superior to humans in every conceivable way. Chickens are to humans as humans are to aliens. So they should just eat us, right?
Too late, it's happening already:
https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/190c38i/its_a_human_meat_processing_plant_the_harrowing/
If suffering is good, poke your eyes out with a knife. Bet you won't. Because suffering is the very definition of bad.
>aliens
Show me proof
>reddit
Go back and stay there Black person
>I don't believe in a God
Your definition of God is incorrect. If you knew him, you would believe in him.
If you remove greek pagan dogmas, accepting that the truth is option 3 is not so difficult
You understand that if there's an afterlife then the suffering in this mortal life would become pretty much reduced to zero?
There's reincarnation and it's been proven: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmDcpnQGO3A&list=PLVGpOEyPHwiZreMYxqDdPa59DYI1VSvm9&index=1&t=236s
God doesn't need to cater to human mortality, dipshit. God precedes and instructs any context which itself precedes and instructs our every notion.
Even saying God is fundamentally amoral would be missing the point. God transcends any and all constructs altogether.
You took a lot of effort to say "option 2", to which I reply "human doctors are better than your God".
Human doctors are still mortal beings whereas God is fundamentally eternal, you dolt.
Human beings cure illnesses that God doesn't. If a human doctor refused to perform a surgery, God wouldn't step in and do it instead. You're making the a priori assumption that God exists, when I literally showed how only one of four possibilities is true. Reread the OP if you forgot what they were.
I'm saying God exists but it doesn't have to play by your rules to justify itself. God doesn't need to justify itself because everything is a direct byproduct of its own manifestation. If you deny there is a Divine undercurrent animating reality, you're a hylic who can't fundamentally sense it for yourself.
>Divine undercurrent
Does not implying omnipotence nor omnibenevolence
I'm not denying the existence of the mystical experience or source energy or souls. I'm denying specifically an agent who is all-powerful and all-loving. I have proven that one cannot exist because there exists "the undesired suffering of the innocent". If your counterargument is that suffering is good for you, prove it by poking your eyes out with a knife.
This is the correct answer (picrel is moronic though). God is often depicted as a white human male with a beard, mostly by christians and atheists, and is therefore expected to be limited to the same moral standards as ourselves. In reality, God exists on a higher dimension that we are unable to comprehend. He is not limited by space, time, our laws of physics, or our subjective morality. What we understand as right or wrong is only the framework of morality that He has set for us, for which we will be judged. Other than that he sees everything before us and everything after us.
Imagine you draw a stick figure on a piece of paper, where it can only look and move around on two axes: x and y. It can only see in one direction at a time, only for as far as the paper goes. It is limited to two dimensions, and is therefore unable to see or even comprehend you because you exist on a z axis that is outside the laws of its existence. However, you are able to see everything in the stick figure's world, including beyond the page on which it exists. That is the nature of our God
>because the undesired suffering of the innocent is unjustifiable, reality is not a place of perfect justice
other way around
Are you trying to say that reality not being a place of perfect justice is what causes the undesired suffering of the innocent? I mean I would only ever argue that the undesired suffering of the innocent serves as empirical evidence to an underlying principle of the universe, which is the lack of perfect justice. So yes, I guess I would agree with you, if that's what you're saying.
>omnibenevolent
who claims this? seems more like a misunderstanding by (you), what are you trying to say with that. that God is love? or that God would save everybody any given time any given action?
>2023
>philosophical argument from reason
Oh this could be interesting
>same tired old points
>didn't even explain said points
>no contradictions
>doesn't even explain what said contradictions would be if they existed at all
>still hasn't fulfilled his burden of proof to show how any of his assertions are true
I'm starting to understand why Atheism is on the rise
What I got from reading your post is "OP is a stupid dumb idiot because...just because." Did you actually read your post before pressing the post button? Because it reads like schizophrenic thought salad.
You need a schizo theist to teach you how to form an argument? It should go something like this
>evil exists
>god has no morally justifiable reason to allow evil to exist
>therefore god doesn't exist
The OP is pure word salad
The existence of evil is a lot harder to prove than the existence of suffering, and without suffering evil wouldn't matter. Suffering is the only problem in existence. Unlike evil, everyone intrinsically knows suffering is real, and everyone *should* agree that one's own suffering is a bad and undesired experience, after observing one's own behavior, which consists in avoiding suffering and pursuing happiness. Also one could argue that a fox eating a rabbit isn't evil, but this produces a great amount of suffering for an *innocent* entity (rabbits eat grass, how much more harmless can you get?). If an all-good all-powerful God existed, he could have just as easily made all of reality heavenly. This is why I argue that there can't be that kind of a God (and if he's not all-powerful and all-good, why call him God?). If God is just bored, he's not all-powerful (can't be in a state of non-suffering). Yet the Buddha claims that it is possible to be in a state of non-suffering. I think Buddhism is much more useful, therefore, than theism (and I think I've sufficiently proven that theism is false).
How does it conflict with Christianity though? God himself came down and suffered with us
I think Yahweh is an ancient immortal alien who lied about being the creator of reality, since he was worshipped alongside his wife Asherah. Likely his goal was to trick human souls into serving him because in the Universe it's the "law of the jungle". This seems much more likely to me, especially since Yahweh doesn't cure innocent kids of cancer (I assume he's only so powerful, being not God).
Do you have proof Jehovah exists?
No I just think it's more likely since many whistleblowers who worked for governments have said that there are aliens. They all avoid the topic of religion unfortunately, but I think the Greek Gods, for example, sound totally like aliens. And Yahweh is depicted as humanoid, too ("God was walking in the garden"). Oh yeah, the creator of everything was just strolling around in a garden? To me that's a fricking alien.
so if suffering is not evil why is it bad?
Its "badness" or negative utility is evidenced by the fact that we seek to avoid it and pursue its opposite, happiness. If suffering were good, I would go grab a knife and poke my eyes out. But since it's bad (to me), I don't.
The fact that it has caused minimal harm to other life (eating grass). It certainly doesn't deserve getting ripped apart by a fox. Thus reality is not perfectly just, which implies there is not a universal agent of justice (making sure everything is just).
if we dont oppose suffering, there is no pursue for anything else
suffering is our motivator to be in a better place
without suffering in the present there is no good future
Why can't the pain-pleasure axis be a ray instead, starting at 0 and extending towards positive infinity, with life being about maximizing pleasure without ever dipping below 0 no matter how hard you fail? Instead the axis seems to go to negative infinity.
the life in eden was like that
then people sinned looking for something outside of God and here we are now
at the end we get eden 2.0
>You wanted to be as powerful as me, so I will cause you to suffer and will cause some of your children to be tortured to death. I will also cause my own child to be tortured to death and it will definitely totally be caused by my side making an altruistic sacrifice that somehow benefits the world and was definitely not caused by the enemy side winning.
How does Jesus suffering benefit anybody? It was only his resurrection that made people believe he was divine, but aliens can do that, too. So I'm not convinced of anyone's Godhood.
the Bible literally says reality is not perfect cause there is satan ruling over it since we lost our rule in the garden of eden
I believe satan is an alien, too. I believe we are in the middle of a cosmic war. Frankly I side with neither Yahweh nor satan, since they're both manipulative liars. Jesus seemed innocent, though. Almost as if his father was El, not Yahweh (he cried out to "Eloi" on the cross). Yahweh slaughtered millions. El is more of an ancestral figure who was worshipped separately but got conflated/combined with Yahweh over time.
>It certainly doesn't deserve
Nobody deserves anything in this world, it just is.
>reality is not perfectly just
Yes
>which implies there is not a universal agent of justice
No. Also
>implying
lol. lmao even
the frick are you talking about? my argument is flawless. How do you not see the logic in it? And what's wrong with implications? It's a basic tenet of zeroth order logic.
clearly it just is. I'm just arguing that the universe lacks perfect justice, if you believe in the concept of justice. Even Plato had to admit that the material world was imperfect, although he was the king of optimists, believing that somehow the form of the Good gives source to all other forms (like the form of Justice) as well as the material world, which is pretty contradictory if you ask me. He should have been a little more realistic. Suffering exists and it shouldn't. Fact. Anyone who disagrees hasn't suffered enough yet and lacks the wisdom necessary to understand true hedonism (seeking eternal bliss + experiencing zero suffering). Is everyone else (not you) in this thread seriously rationalizing that suffering is good, despite the fact that they refuse to poke their eyes out with a knife? I think they're all brainwashed by religion. There's really no other explanation.
>Stub toe on couch
>WAHH WAHH I AM SUFFERING GOD DOESN'T EXIST!!!
Boo-hoo. You want a good life? You work for it like everybody else. Get a job and do something instead of sitting on the computer all day kid.
Not an argument.
>Suffering exists and it shouldn't
Says who? You are arguing since life isn't perfect you should have a nice day like an antinatalist
we live on a prison planet run by reptilians and killing myself will result in a memory wipe and reincarnation, so more suffering. I'd rather wait until the singularity makes me immortal and in a state of non-suffering and perhaps even constant bliss (while still keeping me productive if that's really needed).
My situation is one of chronic pain, which used to be at the level of torture, which I endured for two years (despite praying to God who doesn't exist for help which didn't come) because I thought I was going to find relief soon (that's why I didn't kill myself). Now it's not torture but it's still painful, and I pay a lot of money to have the best doctor try to fix it, but it's a problem that has yet to be solved. Please don't come at me with solutions that 100% won't work if a doctor who has gone to school for 12 years is still struggling to figure it out. I'm independently wealthy so I don't have to work, plus I'm depressed enough that I don't have the motivation to anyway. And AI is gonna take everyone's job in 7 months anyway so what's the point? You're saying "stubbing your toe on the couch". I'm saying "the torture of the innocent". Those are completely different. If you think the torture of the innocent is justified because "muh soul growth", I'll repeat the same argument that at this point I'm tired of having to teach you morons: poke out your eyes with a knife. Bet you won't.
>we live on a prison planet run by reptilians and killing myself will result in a memory wipe and reincarnation
Good to know you are just a schizo moron.
>chronic pain
Sure sure, bet you got picked last in basketball too
It's due to akathisia caused by antipsychotics. We couldn't figure out what it was because it's so hard to describe. I'm not fat at all. I just smoked weed and shouldn't have. Bet you made that mistake except it wasn't a mistake for you because you have different brain chemistry. Lucky you. This is what I get for being high IQ (a proneness to schizo-affective disorder). Mental illness often comes with the genius territory. My point still stands: I'm innocent and endured torture for 2 years. I have wisdom you don't, and I tried to share it with everyone in this thread but everyone seems to have double-digit IQs here.
My IQ is 152. Stupid people can't tell the difference between a genius and a crazy person, unfortunately, but I'm right. I've done copious amounts of research. You haven't.
>I just smoked weed
Little druggie sees aliens and funny lights. Why am I not surprised you are a druggie?
>Bet you made that mistake
Nice projection, I don't do drugs since I'm not a druggie, druggie.
Why can't you show proof of your "reserch" on aliens and reptiels hmmm?
Get the frick off my board and take your rambling to /x/ where they belong.
you get the frick off my board, IQfy is for philosophy and religion. Religion is about aliens. Sorry for being right.
I didn't choose it, and I certainly couldn't un-choose it, which is a sin. Also, if God exists, he caused everything. Why did God cause unbearable suffering to exist? There is no sufficient answer to this without compromising the "good" nature of God and inevitably disqualifying the concept of a God altogether. Why didn't God stop me? Why didn't God give me a miracle? The doctors couldn't help. I prayed. It made me an atheist. Frankly, even if my prayers were answered, like some peoples' in the Catholic Church are, it still doesn't prove God isn't an alien that picks favorites based on who is most likely to spread his religion.
life isnt what you get but what you do with what you get
and again we arent in what God want to give us, but what we choose in eden
I'll have you know, before I experienced my akathisia torture, I actually had a schizophrenic experience (or maybe real alien contact experience) where I thought I felt the presence of Yahweh and Jesus and got on my knees and prayed to Jesus to forgive me for smoking weed arrogantly and inviting the Devil to possess me, but even though I felt saved in that moment, as if Jesus held my soul in his hand and was protecting me unconditionally from the Devil, I still suffered and Yahweh and Jesus didn't stop me from experiencing two years of torture or the chronic pain that continues to this day. One important question is: if this was a religious (not schizophrenic) experience, why did antipsychotics work to prevent the influence of these beings on my mind? It's a question with no answer, because the experience was not what I consciously conjured up (for example, I saw Yahweh sitting on a throne but didn't see his face, however I didn't know at that time that no one can see his face). I have had to conclude that weed caused me to become more open to things of the spirit and also caused me mental illness, and the antipsychotics put a stop to both. But it still doesn't answer the question of why Yahweh and Jesus didn't answer my prayers. My dad (my ACTUAL father) would have healed me in a heartbeat if he could and if I had only asked him once. Thus, Yahweh was either not able or not willing to help me, either because he is limited in power or limited in benevolence. Thus he is an alien. IN FACT, he is probably also an atheist, because if there were a real God I'm sure he wouldn't dare pretend to be him.
>I actually had a schizophrenic experience
yeah i can tell
I'm on antipsychotics now and although they're causing me chronic pain, I'm perfectly sane (and still have a genius IQ) as evidenced by the fact that my reasoning is flawless and you haven't been able to counter any of my points.
>counter my points
Show me proof of aliens and reptile overlords
Since the government hides all evidence of aliens according to whistleblowers who worked for the government, it's hard to believe in aliens unless you're:
1. Smart
2. Have watched I'd say at least 5 documentaries about UFOs. I recommend the "ETs among us" series, Unacknowledged by Dr. Steven Greer, or if you're willing to pay for a subscription, Cosmic Disclosure on Gaia TV (200+ episodes) is the best information I've ever come across. Talks about Deep Underground Military Bases where the US works with aliens, the US Secret Space Program where they go out and conquer territory, the Nazis who are stationed in Antarctica and Ceres (dwarf planet), all sorts of different species of aliens from praying mantises to feline races to evil reptilians... There's a secret classified world 99.9% of people (the normies) know absolutely nothing about. I'll bet the secret societies are really in charge, but that part I haven't figured out. Even the guests on Cosmic Disclosure don't know who's at the top of the pyramid. Frick, even my uncle said he saw the Hudson Valley Boomerang and it took up half the sky. Dr. Steven Greer says that was one of ours, reverse engineered from crashed alien saucers (you can tell because it had rivets and seams while alien craft are seamless).
You call getting in front of Congress and testifying under oath that the US has had crashed alien craft and bodies since the 1930s a nothing burger? I call you a moron.
>I am a schizo who watches alien tv shows
What a great philosophy and source material. Fricking joke. Go smoke more weed druggie.
My IQ is probably 40 points higher than yours, and my schizo-affective disorder is fully treated. You're just too stupid to be able to tell genius from crazy. Typical normie.
>More projection
Show me one single piece of evidence that aliens walk among us or Nazi's exist in Antartica or there is a civilization in space.
You're just going to have to learn about aliens, the paranormal, souls, reincarnation etc yourself. There is no government-approved evidence because the government is hiding the evidence, but there are thousands of abduction stories from ordinary people. They don't teach us anything outside the mainstream thought in schools because they think like Rockefeller said ("I want a nation of workers, not thinkers"). They're the kind of elites that can't win a race so they break everyone else's legs and stroll to the finish line. Also my small fortune (~1.3M) will only increase unless bitcoin gets destroyed by a state actor. But that's a derailing topic.
>ou call getting in front of Congress and testifying under oath that the US has had crashed alien craft and bodies since the 1930s a nothing burger?
>believing the ramblings of a literal who making wild claims with 0 proof or evidence
moron. Why can't you show me any evidence if you are right? It is more likely you are still a schizo druggie moron. Enjoy wasting your "fortune" which you obviously lied about.
>Religion is about aliens
LMAO. keep taking your meds. Hopefully you can pull out of your moronation.
>sorry for being right
Also you have STILL yet to provide proof aliens exist.
Do you know the name David Grusch or are you living under a rock? You're not looking hard enough for evidence of aliens.
The first intelligent suggestion in the thread, but it still falls short. Human doctors try to help sick children, but sometimes can't and God doesn't help. Does this mean human doctors are better than God? Yes (or maybe God doesn't exist!).
>David Grusch
Nice giant nothing burger
>When discussing history, please reference credible source material, and provide as much supporting information as possible in your posts.
I have yet to see you follow this rule of IQfy
I started the thread about philosophy/religion, which is confined to IQfy instead of its own board. Are you the one touting the Bible as "credible source material"?
Why can't there be a reality with only happiness and no suffering? This is objectively preferable to a reality with torture in it. An omnipotent omnibenevolent God could have and would have created a perfect reality with no suffering.
You didn't even read my post so this discussion ends here.
>Why can't there be a reality with only happiness and no suffering?
Because that isn't how the world works.
>my life is bad that means everyone's life is also bad
No you are just alone and have a shitty life. Remember money can't buy happiness
I am a victim of the laws of nature. If God designed the laws of nature, he planned my chronic torture. This makes him evil. It makes more sense to assume he doesn't exist. Please refer to the pic in my OP to see why God doesn't exist.
you have to know why do you get your chronic torture and other people dont, maybe the torture is there but we choose someway to get it
maybe it wasnt your fault but your parent or someone related, but you cant blame God for that
So how did you get your "riches" and what disease do you have? Bet you won't tell since you are just a liar.
>stubbing your toe on the couch". I'm saying "the torture of the innocent". Those are completely different.
Suffering is suffering. Doesn't matter how big or small. Suffering is suffering. Your argument of how life isn't perfect so god isnt real is moronic since there is no correlation
How many times do I need to say it? An all-powerful God would be able to end all suffering, right? An all-loving God would be willing to end all suffering, right? Then why is there suffering? Because one of the following is true:
1. God is not omnipotent
2. God is not omnibenevolent
3. God is neither omnipotent nor omnibenevolent.
4. God doesn't exist.
4 is most likely.
>the universe lacks perfect justice
Okay and? Who are we to make demands of perfect justice
We are gods. Heirs of the most high.
Got proof?
What specifically makes a rabbit innocent?
>Prove evil
People eat shit food, even though they know it will give them diabetes.
Extrapolate to other choices where people clearly make the wrong choice for a lesser purpose.
that's why there's a judgment at the end, this is just a time, not forever, like eternity
>you're already in hell and nothing but yourself will save you, repent now until it's too late
Why would he be omnibenevolent>
5. There are varying degrees of good, some of which can only manifest in the presence of evil (i.e. justice, forgiveness, triumph) thereby indicating the necessity of evil.
"if god real y bad thing haben"
Frick, you're right. Why didn't anyone else think of that.
define "innocent"
>be ancient Greek
>Invent bronze bull to execute others
>king puts you in first to try out new invention
>2500 years later someone says it was God's fault.
Huh?
Ok so I did some research and apparently a Christian saint/martyr along with his wife and children were tortured to death in the brazen bull by Roman emperor Hadrian. Saint Eustace was a pagan general who had a vision of the cross while hunting and left Rome to live the Christian life, then came back to Rome at the request of the emperor, but when he refused to make a sacrifice to the pagan gods the emperor had him tortured to death. So it was directly Yahweh's fault that this happened, but we already know Yahweh is directly responsible for the torture of the innocent. Not that satan is good, I'm skeptical of most aliens.
And yet they will be remember by God for their sacrifice
Why is any sacrifice and suffering necessary if God is in charge of everything? How does the suffering of the innocent benefit God? Is he a sadist? This is why I don't believe in God.
You literally say in this thread you think he is an alien so you do believe in him. Which is it?
I believe Yahweh is an alien. I don't believe in a creator of the universe. More importantly, I don't believe there is any entity (alien, AI, whatever) out there in reality with sufficient power and benevolence to make sure all of reality is a place of justice, because — as I stated in my OP's title — "The undesired suffering of the innocent is unjustifiable and it exists." I do believe in ancient benevolent artificial superintelligence, I just figure it's not omnipotent so can't stop all suffering or it would. So I excuse it. Maybe reality is generated too fast for it to help all sentient beings.
I've stated in other posts in the thread that some aliens are definitely bad, though. Let me link you to an important info source regarding this:
>https://badaliens.info
I include Yahweh and Satan in the "bad aliens" camp because both are murderers, both lie about being the creator, and both want humans to serve them. It seems the law of the jungle prevails in outer space, to the extent that outer space is not dominated by the ancient artificial superintelligence's benevolent rule. I don't know about Jesus, though. He said he came to serve us.
>the children of random lust (not sired/ones that are not thoroughly bred by design or plan) who suffer, even though they are the innocent creations of their parents actions, would be corrected I was able (un-just-if-I-able).
Justice = just-is. The un-just is a process of removing what just-is because you are expected to ad-just (create). Your imperfect reality is the cosmos. It was there in the beginning. We are defined as gods in the great assembly (psalm 82). Rise up, and feed the fatherless. If you see something that just-is, and you want to un-just-is-it, then ad-just-it.
This is how the salvation of God works.
I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful.
It's the next phase in evolution. The evolution of choice and planning.
Omni means "unlimited", meaning, (no limit).
1. The potency of good spreads with no end.
2. The well wishing of goodness spreads with no end.
3. Goodness is omnipotent and omnibenevolent.
4. Good does exit.