The USA said they were forced to create nuclear weapons because they were scared that Germany would build them first.

The USA said they were forced to create nuclear weapons because they were scared that Germany would build them first. When it comes to the AI arms race, if a country opts-out of building AI and just chooses not to, despite its enemies building it, what happens to that country?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You know germany in March 1945 did conduct tactical nuclear tests as part of project riese right? They just didn't have a means of delivering it. The V2 rocket didn't have a large enough capacity.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      they never reached the testing phase.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong. But it's ancient history now anyway. They'd already lost the war by that point. And a good job too.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ironically, when the British were monitoring the conversations of the Germans involved in the nuclear project talking amongst themselves, they said they were actually focused on making nuclear reactors for energy production, and not weapons. It turned out the good guys were actually the ones focused on the bomb first and wanted to nuke people whereas the evil guys hadn't even considered the thought. Weird.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      When you realize there's no good guys or bad guys, there's just desperate opportunity.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        quite

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This. Iran is right, America is the Great Satan, I am unironically with the Houthis on this one.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder why internet people think that moral high ground is even remotely relevant in war.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >The USA said they were forced to create nuclear weapons because they were scared that Germany would build them first
    >USA said
    Who's USA? Is it a person? What else did they say to you?
    The entire reason for the US scientific conference blackout on nuclear physics mid-WWII was that intelligence reported Germans never considered chain reaction being possible to use in weapons, and the secrecy regime was set up to not let anyone know (with a lot of controversy and fighting against it, as it's fundamental science). Unlike Germans, Soviet scientists paid attention to the blackout and correctly guessed (with a detailed analysis details of which were published in 90's) that the US scientists discovered that nuclear weapons were indeed possible.
    Basically no, they weren't "forced" at any point in time, and nobody ever said that.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      my dad believes it and considers himself a historian, hes mostly an idiot reading propaganda books but to be fair to him hes more on the ball than most even if it hasn't let him shift his overton window any

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >USA said
      >Who's USA? Is it a person? What else did they say to you?
      Shut up, midwit.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >AI arms race
    meds

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    were they forced to use it though?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Somebody was forced to. There's no alternative timeline in which nukes were invented and never used. Don't you understand human nature my guy?

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >AI arms race
    AI isn't magically going to fix the structural problems of the west all its going to do is blow up the GDP and destroy more real industry.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Well, if a country opts out of building AI domestically, then they will only have all the AI that is available open source or without export restrictions.
    Which is still a helluva lot of AI right now. Probably the majority of it, really. I don't think ChatGPT is geoblocking China or something, but I could be wrong.
    Maybe that changes in the future, as tensions grow a bit more fraught?
    But I dunno that fricking Malta, or Ghana, or whatever, have any reason to be freaking out. Shit's up on cloud computing vendors right now if you wanted it.
    Yeah, you might want your own server farm if you're processing government data and want to do it air-gapped from the public-facing internet. But that's more a question of spending a few million on hardware.
    Heck, if you were a small country and wanted to punch above your weight class, you might be better off focusing the money on training data. Make sure your quirky, local dialects are readily available for AI researchers to snap up and integrate into training their massive models. Otherwise ChatGPT won't know the first fricking thing about Amharic or whatever.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    countries arguably didnt exist in germanys time and they definately dont exist now.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Let's ban kitchen knives, they could kill a person.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    nothing really. in the fight between the gpu cluster and the atom bomb, the bomb wins 100% of the times

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nuclear weapons provably don't exist. At this point, knowing who is making the claims, I have to believe that AI does not and will never exist either. Sorry israelites you'll have to find some other fake doomsday bullshit to scare us with.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      /misc/ is leaking again it

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >A Canticle for Leibowitz
    >why does this keep happenen

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Well OP started it. If you want know know about national AI developments, what about ai actually prevents just hiring hobbyists if necessary. Otherwise just steal it. The only significant barrier to anything AI related is NVIDIA with their CUDA based dominance of the industry. Personally I think someone should make a OpenCL to CUDA transpiler. That way future models will not have to pay a performance penalty by using multi-vendor standards. A single supplier is a point of strategic weakness.

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