The virgin vaguely middle-ages fantasy setting
>takes no research because it’s completely made up
>readers learn nothing about reality
>it’s still inaccurate because it has technologies and attitudes anachronistic to the time in real life it’s clearly based on
The chad historical fiction
>hours of research put into deciding whether a house should have one or two chimneys
>readers passively learn about the time period it’s written in whether they want to or not
>accurate to real life aside from specific characters and place-names
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Well, there's a good reason all the teens and young adults want to write fantasy only
The one thing i liked about the tale of two cities is how dickens confirms that london has been a crime infested shithole for literally centuries.
You can have fantasy that is built on historical research.
>vaguely middle ages
Yeah, those generic fantasy novels are often boring, but potential is still there. Also medieval period is long and I don't see much fantasy based on early medieval period or certain regions of the world, for example. Which is a bit sad, but leave room for new works.
>Also medieval period is long and I don't see much fantasy based on early medieval period or certain regions of the world, for example.
the Witcher series is basically a fantasy retelling of the arthurian legends which themselves are a sort of proto fantasy lol
>The Witcher
I have never read a series that went downhill so steeply in my life. It’s amazing that someone that good at writing short stories cannot into an overarching story.
Literally one of the most popular fantasy series is based on the early Medieval period.
If a writer clearly knows his stuff, he can be worth reading even if he gets sneered at by critics.
In the 70s/80s a guy called Arthur Hailey was very successful like this (with contemporary stuff, not historical). He picked a certain world (hotel, merchant bank, airport, etc) and researched it autistically and then wrote a thriller based in that world. (I think the ratio was something like 9 months research to 3 months writing, haha.) The unique selling point was all the little facts you got about that corner of life. Shogun was similar, I guess. It was a massive success largely because no-one really knew anything about Japan.
There are dozens of historical settings not covered by any well-known book. For a long time I've had in mind a story with a troubadour hero going about Europe in 1200. The plot pretty much writes itself:
— Hero goes from one nobleman's court to the next, writing poems and songs and performing them.
— He is a great linguist.
— Lord #1 hires him to write stuff so he can pass it off as his own.
— Lord #2 hires him to spy on the next lord along.
— Lord #3 is old and fat and has an attractive younger wife who catches hero's eye while he's singing and then looks down demurely
— etc
I don't really think there's a correlation tbh
Ideally there should be but I'm not sure that there is
>historical fiction
fanfiction tier garbage
name one good historical novel
Between Two Fires
I thought this was really mediocre. The author seems like a total idiot.
Take of two cities
War and peace
Les miserables
The Iliad
That’s obviously different.
He obviously means modern
I don’t see how whether it’s modern matters.
What if it basically is forced to be at least partly historical fiction because it takes place over 400 years?
Flashman
Augustus by John Williams
I liked Azincourt
Historical fiction is gay as frick.
Historical fiction is for people too lazy to write a history book