there is literally no reason to get an AIO when this exists. it IS liquid cooling since there is liquid in it btw
there is literally no reason to get an AIO when this exists. it IS liquid cooling since there is liquid in it btw
there is literally no reason to get an AIO when this exists. it IS liquid cooling since there is liquid in it btw
its gigantic
scared?
Ill need a crane to install it into my PC
Sounds like someone didn't get enough bug protein then
Doesn't really matter because it typically fills an otherwise useless void in the middle of the case.
By contrast, radiators need to be placed at the exterior, so the case has to be made larger to accommodate them.
but what if you got x2 big ass gpus and that thing?
cant be good i presume.
i am tempted to get the biggest noctua btw.
if my feet can carry 150 kg, so will my hands be able to lift at least 20 kilos. This is 1 kilo max
>150kg
What do your lunch look like ?
>t. never lifted anything
I lift your mom (with my wiener only)
>150kg
If it fits it fits
You really don't need water-cooling even. Any tower cooler works fine as long as you dial the factory-overclocked CPU down to its proper stock speed.
>factory overclocked cpus
what a moronic idea. Technology peaked in 2015
Turbo boosting existed before then but nobody noticed.
The radiator can be placed more arbitrarily, but yeah there's no reason to get an AIO and the options are really just between air cooling and custom loops.
Someone selling you a bundle or kit (like an AIO) usually has no confidence in selling any of the parts individually.
Water cooling lets you move the heat anywhere and the radiator can have arbitrary dimensions, so you can fit a 200mm fan on it.
You can move your radiator outside of your PC, you can even cool multiple PCs with the same loop if you're so inclined
Since water cooling is just part of an air cooling setup, you can even set up a rad to cool the exhaust of an air-cooler.
>factory-overclocked CPU down to its proper stock speed.
Black person my i5 3570k is at 1.3 Ghz over
my 3770K used to be that way when I still had it too
you really don't need a computer at all if you buy an AMD CPU
Depends on the airflow, one advantage of radiators is that they blow any heat out of the case instantly. This is why water-cooled GPUs perform so well because they don't tumble the hot air inside the case
>This is why water-cooled GPUs perform so well because they don't tumble the hot air inside the case
your airflow orientation and case pressure utilization knowledge needs improving.
so many just throw in whatever assuming it is best because it is easier, quicker, and cheaper.
and frick that dipshit making comments about 40 year old neckbeards in this thread.. spoken like a true ignoramus.
theres no reason to get any aftermarket cooler. What the heat sink companies don't want you to know is that you can just keep bolting on heat sinks, one on top of another (with thermal paste) until the desired cooling is achieved. My core i7 10700 is just the stock heat sink with a big heatsink bolted to that. (I do have a desk fan blowing on it).
Stock coolers fricking suck in terms of noise.
Real CPUs don't come with stock coolers
i was confused at first thinking he was calling the lid a heatsink.
Incorrect, OEM CPUs don't come with stock coolers.
>The elites don't want you to know this but you can just keep bolting on heat sinks, one on top of another (with thermal paste) until the desired cooling is achieved. I have a i7 10700 stock heat sink with a big heatsink bolted to that and a desk fan blowing on it at home.
Bravo anon, bravo ha
>theres no reason to get any aftermarket cooler
>just use an aftermarket cooler
kek, based moron
imagine being alive in 2024 and still thinking that ancient outdated overpriced noctua shit is still worth buying
you 45 year old neckbeards need to stop with the oldass info
not an argument
Yeah it is
Liquid cooling is capable of absorbing more heat before the fans start going wild.
That's not the case in a normal fan.
It's still one of the best and doesn't have moronic zoomer RGB's.
And no, I don't have a case window but light leaks out through my front fans (my 4090 does have those moronic zoomer RGB's unfortunately)
install LED Visualizer and turn that nasty Nvidia RGB off.
>just install crapware
No.
It's not one of the best, not even close, and none of the best have RGB either. Also you can just turn off RGB on anything.
The 45 year old neckbeards have had that noctua cooler for 15 years migrating from pc to pc still doing the job.
>imagine being alive in 2024 and still thinking that ancient outdated overpriced noctua shit is still worth buying
What are the best alternatives to noctua?
$35-40 Phantom Spirit, or Peerless Assassin if Phantom is not available.
>Phantom offers virtually identical performance at similar noise levels
>Peerless isn't far behind most of the time
and yes, you will still be able to mount it on sockets to come
both are much cheaper, and also a fair bit shorter so they fit in more cases
How do they compare to the even cheaper the bequiet pure rock slim2?
t. non gaymer
The Pure Rock Slim 2 would be pretty far behind. This chart is all high end coolers, stuff like the D15 or Dark Rock Pro5/Elite are all in the $100+ range.
The Slim 2 is just a little babby 92mm tower cooler - considerably better than a stock cooler and arguably one of the better 92mm boys, but it's still not much compared to a big dual 120mm tower like the PS120 or PA120.
Essentially, those are like two Pure Rock 2 (non slim) glued together
the PRS2 is fine if you have a very slim case that can't take tall coolers (although you could look at the Peerless Assassin mini if it's priced decently where you live) or if you just need to cool something like a 5600/7600, 12400F/13400F etc
Meh, I just need a cheap and quiet cooler for an office pc with maybe some emulator gayming, and the PRS2 is almost half the price of the Peerless Assassin in my country, which already relatively cheap. So if the PRS2 is good enough, I have no reason to buy something like a PA.
Your chart shows NH-D15 is still one of the best though.
It's expensive, I agree, but they also offer awesome customer support like shipping new mounting sets for free to make older versions compatible with new CPU mounts, and their fans have proven to last a very long time.
>cumcooler
You could pay way WAY less and get the same performance. It's not 2012 anymore
as an employed adult my workstation runs 24/7 and the last thing i need is
>what if that chinky AIO cooler pipe burst
so yes ofcourse I use noctua
All of our Dell Precisions have the Dell AIOs even though they should have had air coolers normally. It was like corporate IT was ordering them then the AIO. I've had zero problems our of these workstations and they run 24/7 in a dirt factory. Pic rel is my office machine.
if a pipe burst there, everything is warranty covered and all your data is safe
if a pipe bursts in my AIO = welp, time to spend $900
But it doesn't have a bunch of rainbow RGB fans and pipes that i can show off on reddit!
Blue LEDs are proven to lower temperatures in most systems. I agree that using red ones is stupid and bad and for gay babies however.
agree
AIO has always been a reddit meme
air cooling is literally the only option for real men
agree. frick all that lightweight shit. give me Noc fans and i will work wonders
>air cooling is literally the only option for real men
true only if you underclock, undervolt, and watt-limit your CPU
idk man my cpu pulls 700W and its fine
any big top flow cooler fans out there?
Does any one else make anything comparable to the NH-C14s ?
The be quiet top flow is a lot larger, and other 140mm class top flows only have 4 heatpipes, if that.
>literally no reason
AIO is going to make less noise.
More noise because the fans are closer to the exhaust and radiators have a lot more air resistance than air cooler fins.
AIO starts to make sense at 360mm, because thats where air coolers just don't have the same surface area to cool.
Anything below is garbage, as long as you can fit a big air cooler.
And at that point you might as well look at custom water loops.
AIO's are never the best option.
AIO can't idle at 0db, at the very least you're forced to circulate the water through pump noise.
on the other hand, any massive air cooler is going to sit at 0 RPM perfectly well until you launch a real workload, but 0 rpm at web browsing/video content.
Only case where liquid cooling catches up is when you go from low to max load quickly, then the liquid is going to takea bit more time to heat up compared to air cooler, but even then you probably weren't measuring the liquid temp and instead made the aio fans ramp up with cpu temp, therefore not even benefitting from that one usecase where liquid cooling makes a difference.
Worse than a Peerless Assasin btw.
The NH-D15 is outdated, overpriced and irrelevant in current year. Something like the Thermalright Peerless Assassin beats it in every metric for a third of the price. In fact, Noctua's coolers in general are in a pretty bad spot right now, with other companies releasing as good or better products for much less. Really the only place they're still worth the money is air-cooled small form factor builds.
>Really the only place they're still worth the money is air-cooled small form factor builds.
what else are we talking about?
big cases are lame now.
meh
This. Noctua was king up until 2018 or so. Other companies caught up and are half the price.
>NH-D15 is outdated
How can a chunk of metal that transfers heat be "outdated" it works well because its a big ass chunk of metal. That it.
it's outdated you will get malware virus and not the latest support by noctua
it's outdated by design and price when compared to modern offerings, autist
It cools shit and well. Not buying new special goy metal
>tranime
>moronic post
where do you think you are?
>someone says the cpu stays cool
>no argument
>calls that person a moron
I guess you were the moronic consumer all along, if a CPU stays under 25-30°C under 30db, it's all good.
Of course there is, when you don't have any room above the CPU and need to move the cooly bits somewhere else. Usually a problem is super tiny cases
how much do you gotta clean radiators cause at this point that the only thing i can think up that is difference
cleaning fans on both, so the real comparison is cleaning fins on heatsink vs rads.
my overclocked 5900X is cooled with a Dark Rock Pro 4
it just werks
allow me to school you gaygets. get picrel cooler, remove the outer fan, looks like a passive cooler and is silent. plenty good for 65-95W TDP (with inside fan + case fan next to it)
How is one fan with more rpm silent.
Dumb as
Yeah I don't get it. I'd rather 2 fans at half speed than 1 fan at full speed.
it's not higher RPM, it's silent because it's large enough to cool a 65-95W CPU with one fan and not at full blast. also the inside fan is quieter than outside fan, just by being flanked by fins on both sides. can't beat the looks of that massive black block without the external fan.
(me)
as in it's quieter because there's only one fan running instead of two, and still keeps the CPU low temp. that's why it's quieter. the inside fan won't ramp up more to account for the second missing fan because it's already overkill especially for 65W CPU.
>plenty good for 65-95W TDP
That's not a lot
for silent cooling with a massive heatsink. of-course you can't pull that off on 300W TDP wtf
>remove the outer fan
>which implies leaving the inner fan on
>with inside fan + case fan
>so that's 3 fans
>silent
What a fricking moron.
>for 65W
Double fricking moron. My 65W does laps without ANY fricking fans.
implies leaving the inner fan on
>>with inside fan + case fan
you having a stroke? it's the inner fan + back case fan, that's two fans moron
>cooler
>quieter
>half the price
>more case compatibility
Why would you buy the D15 again?
imagine the noise
noctua: wrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
others: vrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Noctua is preferred fan noise but I'd rather just a better cooler I can run at half the RPM.
I can't (hear it).
Why does this board act like air coolers all sound like jet engines or like included stock coolers?
I swear this place is stuck 15 years in the past.
>fugly color scheme
I will never touch noctus
Why do morons still bring up the color scheme? All their coolers and fans have been available in black for years and their redux lineup has always been grey.
But whenever you tell them that they will just move from "color bad" to "noctua bad".
The color scheme meme was so insulting that it translates as 'noctua bad'. Endless amount of npc put the poop colored fan there because the Apple like literal fanboyism. The poop color caused a psycholocigal effect: if I endure this poop color, I need to shill this fan to others to cover my mistake: my computer has poop colored CPU fan. It MUST BE BETTER. Why else I put there poop colored fan? What if its not better?cant be so!!!! I can't make this terrible mistakes. Shilling for free
Are the redux line any good? i keep hearing they are vastly infeior for some reason
No, they're insanely overpriced for completely average fans.
Cope, poorhomosexual.
very pretty
waste of energy
thanks doc
Get in the case, Shinji
Have fun swapping water out of your system every couple of weeks.
Unnecessary consumer bullshit. Nice RGB, does your boyfriend have the same setup?
Married, gainfully employed men don't think about these things. I just want a quiet computer that doesn't look like the Lighting section of a Home Depot.
not him but you realize you can turn off rgb right
>Married, gainfully employed
feckless tool. I bet you married a women too, because youre a degenerate loser
are you moronic?
>want to remove ram stick, have to let the fluid out and refil later.
yuk 90 degree fitting on EK blocks with 4 dimm ram.
>no reason to get an AIO when this exists
so it fits all cases, nice
moron
>He bought a mini case for his trans aestetic
Sucks to be u
Bought one of these (since D15 was too tall for my case). Was it more expensive than a lot of the competitors for not much more cooling.... yes. But it will be compatible with sockets even 20 years from now. So I won't have to ever buy a CPU cooler again.
excellent fan.
i currently run one myself.
for me it is pic attached, to accommodate the ram.
why didn't you get the poo colour one?
Every single cooler company makes brackets for older coolers, not just noctua, brand prostitute. In 20 years that shit won't be able to cool an entry level CPU at idle anyway.
scythe fuma 2
simple as
AIOs and heat pipe radiators are air cooled because cooling the heat exchanger is done by air
>people are unironically filtered by noctua itt
go put more led fans in your anime case you fricking tasteless manbaby nerds
>liking cute females is worse taste than enduring poop color because you think it will make people other than yourself think more highly of your taste
oversocialized homosexual
You're a fricking brandwarrior wienersucking moron, but damn if that ain't a nice case.
Can get an arctic liquid freezer ii 420 for the same price for better thermals and noise
Redpill me on noctua fans
I am making a new build and people seem to be really into them
>https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/noctua/
they're normal fans but poo-colored instead of black. perfect if you live in India
*also available in black
Worst place to ask. IQfy absolutely hates noctua. They will shill arctic all day which have horrible motor noise especially around 1000-1500rpm, but they are cheap so this place loves them.
Noctua fans are the best in terms of sound, performance and most importantly also noise profile. Some fans perform slight worse or similar on paper, but most reviews never mention how they actually sound and simply test decibel.
And they also last forever, have basicly infinite warranty, same with their coolers and their coolers also get new mounting brackets until the end of time for free.
>IQfy absolutely hates noctua
nein
have a nice day
you first simpleton
a modern engineering marvel
Don't get their 140mm, they're old tech and average. Their 120mm are very good in terms of sound but not the best for outright performance, and they are also very overpriced.
>Don't get their 140mm, they're old tech and average.
coughbullshitcough
really should cough that shit out of your eyes and have a fricking read
oh i read it, and i know bullshit when i see it =]
A very expensive premium brand that caters to "muh noise" autists who apparently don't have headphones and are somehow really bothered by fans going vwooo in the background.
wearing headphones all the time is so fricking cucked. I'm a grown man with my own home I use speakers I don't have to hide my noise from mommy.
>needs to use headphones and blast sound 24/7 just to not hear his PC
>metal tower just works, build better than the chinese knockoffs
>fans work
>buy it and only ever need to replace it if you build a new PC and it has a different mounting system from what your device supports
they were the best 10 years ago, now they are a dime a dozen.
Other fans are cheaper, better, have the same longevity and you also get free update kits for new sockets.
With Noctua's I highly recommend looking at the used market. Since all you need is an adapter kit and they work with current hardware.
For example I saw a used NH-U9B for 25 euros. And I saw for 40 euros a NH-D14 that comes with a core 2 quad, 8gb ddr2 and motherboard combo.
test
>there is literally no reason to get an NH-D15 when this exists.
FTFY
Yeah but this cooler won't be compatible with the latest sockets 20 years from now. The D15 will.
Brands like Be Quiet, Thermalright and Deepcool have been keeping up and making mounting brackets for new sockets for a good while now, especially for their flagship products. It's not like 15 years ago where Noctua were pretty much the only ones doing it
>Be Quiet
decent fan, i like them, still like Noc better though
Thermalright is older than noctua, troon.
moronic brand prostitute knows nothing about coolers and thinks only Noctua makes brackets, color me surprised
Even $5 aliexpress no name coolers will send you a bracket for a new socket if you ask them
Thermalright still sells mounting kits for their oldest coolers that support the latest sockets. They'll also do a similar thing to Noctua where you send them proof of purchase of your old cooler and they ship the modern brackets to you, just pay for shipping.
>bends your mainboard
>needs to be removed in order to transport your PC
neither of those is true btw
theyre both true.
in fact, mainboards and CPU sockets have ratings for how large of a cooler can be mounted, and the monstrosity in OPs pic more than doubles it. installing that air cooler is literally ignoring the mobos and CPU manufacturers official rating.
and how does that translate into any of your two claims? because my experience isn't what you described at all. my PC is aircooled with a similarly bulky rad (Dark Rock Pro 4), and is moved relatively often, I never had to remove the cooler from my system, be it when I move it from one room to the other or when I moved 650 miles across my country a few years back. my previous cooler (Alpenföhn K2 mounted on my 3770K from day one, from july 2012 to january 2021, arguably even bulkier than the DRP4) also didn't have any issues when doing the same
also neither of the mobos they were mounted on (which I still both have) are bent or suffered any damage through multiple years of usage. your motherboard physically can't bend when it's held in place with screws on a rigid case
>CPU manufacturers official rating
yeah again that doesn't mean jack shit. my 3770K was rated for 3.5GHz but has been used between 4.8 and 5GHz during its entire lifetime and it's still working to this day, 12 years after purchase. nowadays I just use it in my home server rather than as my main machine
>anecdotes
amazing
better than you claiming bs out of your ass with no evidence to support it at all
>no evidence to support it at all
>the motherboard manual and CPU socket datasheet doesnt count
it doesn't prove that your motherboard will bend or that you'll need to remove your cooler before moving your machine, no. especially because like I said, your mobo can't physically bend without breaking if it's attached correctly, and it's not gonna break with a measly kilogram hanging off the socket
>your mobo can't physically bend without breaking if it's attached correctly
>source: my ass
my ass can bend without breaking
I'd like to see that
>your motherboard physically can't bend when it's held in place with screws on a rigid case
i was just cleaning out a bunch of old computer parts from storage the other day, I had always wondered if the weight could bend motherboards over time. i held them up angled to be able to see, and yeah a few of my old motherboards had a clearly visible bend around the cpu socket. high heat and significant weight will easily do that over time. the board isn't bolted flat against the case, it's on standoffs that result in bending being easier and even if motherboards were nonconductive on the bottom and bolted on flush, most cases are aluminum or thin steel that will easily bend over time as well. in addition, if you dont have consistent tension on all the heatsink screws that will also warp the board over time.
Motherboard bending is generally not an issue in desktops though, it can bend and it probably wont break. The reason apple had a big issue with mainboard bending was that mobile devices are going to be jiggling and bending all the time, leading to circuit faults. If your desktop motherboard sags around the cpu socket it probably wont ever matter
>t. has a garbage mini ITX because he fell for the low profile meme and beleives every motherboard is as shitty and fragile as his
>mini ITX
>garbage
ITX almost always has more than 4 PCB layers which improves signal integrity
combined with them only having 2 RAM slots improves memory overclocking potential as well
I'm surprised this board doesn't know
>ITX almost always has more than 4 PCB layers
Dont motherboards have like 12 layers
yeap.
lolno
you can actually count them yourself moron
>dont trust the motherboard manual or CPU socket datasheet, trust meeee, a moron, instead
>t. corpo schlong gobbler who also has zero notions on mechanical engineering
>projecting
I'm using a D15 on my ITX board just fine.
Mainboards especially with the noctua mounting system are way more durable than people think.
There's liquid in ur mum too.
I’ll never water cool.
My solution, stay away from CPUs that need it.
I’ll use my i9-9900k until the day it dies, and then probably find another one in a dumpster behind an office building.
>I’ll use my i9-9900k until the day it dies, and then probably find another one in a dumpster behind an office building.
Fricking right. Why buy tech when offices throw it away? IDGAF about muh “latest and greatest”.
Sieg Xeon.
same
what are your measurements?
not shilling, just discussing great hardware.
Mean while your mobile phone does a better job at everything.
What if I want a smaller form factor?
>there is no reason to get an all-in-one because this is an all-in-one
?
what is this thing and why is IQfy shilling it now
idk who you people are and why you're like this but the difference is gigantic
The Noctua NH-D15S chromax.black is highly praised for its excellent cooling performance and quiet operation. Users appreciate the easy installation process and good build quality of the product. It is compatible with various CPUs and keeps CPU temperatures low. The black design is also well-liked by many. However, some users find the size of the cooler cumbersome in certain cases and wish a second fan was included. There can be potential clearance issues with RAM and the case, and installation difficulties in some cases. The cooler is considered pricey by some, and there are concerns about its cooling performance under heavy loads. Overall, the NH-D15S is a highly efficient and reliable air cooler for those seeking powerful cooling for their CPUs.
https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-d15s-chromax-black/p/13C-0005-001M2
so pretty, so so pretty
If you class that as liquid cooling then it would also be classed as an AIO.
>fan fails on air cooler: CPU throttles
>radiator/pump fails, tubes leak all over your GPU/mobo: buy a new computer
Liquid cooling is moronic because it has too many failure points
>b-but muh overclocking
Stop being a homosexual
also don't forget:
>AIOs lose liquid over time and can't be refilled, you have to change the entire product after a 2-3 years or you lose a lot of cooling performance
>aircoolers have basically infinite lifetime. fan breaks? order a new one for $5, or open up your old used PSU and take the fan from there
>high-end aircoolers also tend to have better performance than AIOs
airchads can't stop winning
this anon plots and plans like a pro
my 12 years old aircooler is still working as well as it was the day I bought it. it can still cool any CPU on the market today (or could, I don't have mounting systems for recent sockets on it kek, it's used on an ivy bridge i7 while my new AM4 build is aircooled with another rad)
same minds anon
i can run hcat for days on my machine and it blows cold air, it is perfect.
i have an unlimited budget (yet i remain quasi conservative on my builds) and would rather run what i have chosen over other designs.
fresh thermal paste annually, good to go.
.02
>fresh thermal paste annually
my old machine has toothpaste as thermal paste. works really well (and I haven't changed it in a couple years now)
granted I'm also a poorgay so if I can save 10 bucks by not ordering paste, I'll use an alternative that works just as good
>changing a fan on an AIO is different than changing the fan on a heatsink
you are supremely moronic
yeah because having to change the pump when it shits itself doesn't render your entire pc fricking useless
>typing "different than" and calling others moronic
holy shit youre moronic
"different from" or "different to"
first of all, "different than" is correct
"different from" is also acceptable
"different to" is incorrect.
so basically, youre either a moronic troll, or just a plain moron
>“different to” (standard in British English)
woops
>British
>Incorrect
theyre_the_same.jpg
tard
>projecting
>being british.
please tell the class what you think it should have read
>b-but muh overclocking
even for that it's useless. a GOOD cooler especially on a good die design (yknow. large IHS) can happily pull away tons and tons of heat
When was the last time you ever heard about a pump fail?
The liquid is non-conductive...
Try 6+ years chud.
I prefer lower noise, cooler CPU and half the price over a Noctua..
Because of modern CPUs and their ever-increasing heat and power
That seems excessive for my needs.
beaut
The horizontal fins are blocking natural convection.
- the case is a wind tunnel, and the cooler has a fan, making natural convection effects negligible. After testing with heat pipes horizontally when I got this cooler, both directions, this is still the optimal configuration with the best thermals over all.
- Zalman actually made a totally cubed cooler. Pic related.
>After testing with heat pipes horizontally
Well, you see, the problem is that no matter what position you put that heatsink in, the fins are gonna be either blocking your wind tunnel, or your natural convection, so you're losing efficiency either way. I bet you if the same cooler had fins parallel to the motherboard, like most tower coolers, you could have the same cooling with fewer RPMs or even fewer fans.
I tried big tower coolers, they performed sub optimally for the other parts.
Sure a peerless assassin was 3-4 c cooler, but my ram was 10c hotter, nvme 15-20c hotter. Having the top flow also seems to offer a small benefit to the top most GPU ( fan curve, thermally the a4000 just boosts till it hits 91c)
Tldr : I tried big towers. A few c on the CPU was not worth the trade of of 10+ c increase for other components.
>borg cooler
You will service us...
Oh just shut the frick up already
Behold
Cyoob
giant metal structures look fricking cool in computers compared to rgb for fricking clown liquid like in
computers should like fine machines when you open them.
it's shit brown
works for me
i built my computer in late 2019 with air cooler
haven't cleaned or dusted it once
haven't maintained jack shit
still works and temperatures are exactly what they were
i can LOOK into it and see the dust caked
don't care
my old man never cleaned his IBM PC because he wasn't gay
he chain smoked marlboro reds at it and turned it yellow
I'm gonna do the same thing
I wasn't raised to be a little homosexual FRENCH MAID dusting out electronics
not my problem
and AIO? more like GAY IO
only thing you smoke is wiener hombre
Thermalright cooler with 7 heatpipes is better
>super expensive air cooler
>beaten by $30 air coolers
Stop being a brand prostitute.
you have never owned one and it shows
thermalright heatsink with scythe wonder snail fans
I'm using a noctua dh-15s and it's not all that amazing honestly, I dunno what to tell you
I wonder what would be fine to have for a 5900x
i still have a nhd14 i bought like 15 years ago. original fans. all still works.
noctua even sends me free retrofit kits on request when i upgrade sockets.
i use a nh-d15 to cool my 13900k and it works fine, no need for an aio
putting on those fans alone is so hard, it warants a 300 usd aio
putting those fans on is extremely easy. you must be doing it wrong
>putting those fans on is extremely easy. you must be doing it wrong
not my experience, had to use knifes, because my fingers start hurting from the force required to snap those fricking things in.
never fricking again I am buying this shit.
pulled the knife right out of your "can't believe it's not butter" tub, I bet
>$10 cheaper than the arctic 360
air cooled morons are so BROKE they need to save TEN DOLLARS
water cooling is gamer junk. just perfect for amd users
>it is liquid cooling since there is liquid in it
actually it's phase change cooling. it turns from liquid to gas and back to liquid. True liquid cooling means it says liquid like water cooling your GPU.
As much as I like noctua, you can get other air coolers with 95% of the performances for 50% of the price. Noctua is not worth it anymore.
Even better, just grab the AK620 and spend all that extra money on something useful instead of vain memes.
>there is literally no reason to get an AIO when this exists.
I like access to the inside of my case and motherboard sockets and plugs without removing the cooler.
AIO's are quieter and don't require the start/stop of fans every time I open a new window
You don't get to decide what I put in my pc. worry about your own heap of junk.
>Implying that piping and radiators don't do this.
>AIO's are quieter
ROFL
yes aios are quieter
you people are delusional
noise normalized cooling capacity is far above air cooling
you also don't have to listen to fans ramping up
>you also don't have to listen to fans ramping up
no one with at least double digit IQ HAS to, fix your moronic fan curves
>you have to fix fan curves to stop coolers from being noisy
you don't on an AIO. lol
what are you implying you moron
aircooling simply needs higher fan RPMs in comparison
>there is literally no reason to get an AIO when this exists.
It's true, especially with modern CPUs that can throttle down. Fans can spin down to inaudible levels or even completely stop, while an AIO pump has to run always, no matter what, so they are noisier most of the time.
CPU is pretty much never the Problem.
Good air cooling is almost always enough for 150W.
But if your "midrange" GPU wants 250+W it's going to be the loudest component in the system, so you might want to watercool it.
So imo the best options are:
1. Air-cool everything.
2. Custom loop everything.
>AIO on CPU makes no sense 95% of time.
Only scenario is for high-end CPU only systems with high load.
I've just never understood AIO. They are a fashion statement. If you're serious about cooling custom loop. An AIO is little more than a toy.
I don't like these double heatsink designs. What's the Best Big Bang for Buck cooler in the current year? I plan to use it without a fan.
>there is literally no reason to get an AIO when this exists
first of all, these are old gen noctua 140mm fans
you should wait for new gen this year (once in a decade) and new version of the cooler
second, there are many small cases where this thing won't fit, but a 240-280 AIO would
Water coolers are for brown people to put colorful lights on op
>kills your fan tower resonance noise
Should this grid be covered to improve airflow? To make cold air only come in via the fans?
Why is there no sealed-to-cpu compressor cooler? Peltier thermoelectric coolers are available and they are less energy efficient. The noise can be attenuated.
why wont someone sell a heatsink thats just a giant block of solid copper?
Now consider how much surface area a cube has compared to some grid
thermal mass > radiative effect
To some extend, it's like 180~235w/m.K vs 385+ (for aluminum / copper). The same thing made of copper will be better though and even if it's more expensive, $10 gets you close to a kilogram.
Because Linus will steal it.
Once upon a time, Thermalright made this beauty.
>10 lb heatsink
RIP motherboard
Why won't Thermalright launch this full copper with their Peerless Assassin 120 Series limited edition
>its shit still have it just waiting for the PA120 to arrive
Thermalright made a bunch of copper heatsinks. Most of them all pretty old now though but I think there's still one or two they still sell.
Thermalright Phantom Spirit cheaper same performance.
>not dunking your entire pc in a non-conductive liquid
lmfao enjoy your temps over 5C
My NH-D15 has outlived 3 different computers
>imagine spending money on a CPU cooler in the year 2000+24
Wraith Spire suuuuucks and the higher tier Ryzen chips don't come with boxed coolers anymore so the Wraith Prism may as well not exist
This shit is impossible to clean out once it gets filled with dust.
For me? It's the CoolerMaster Hyper 212+
>buy extra quiet CPU fan that I can barely hear
>PSU fan squeaks
I had a D15 from 2013-2019. Shit couldn't cool my 9900k without sounding like a whirlwind. Bought a 280mm Arctic Liquid Freezer and it's dead silent while temps are better.
I'd rather pay $100 every 6 years for a cooler / quiter system.
Retired the D15 to the HTPC. Frick air cooling.
Skill issue, unironically.
The D15 can basicly cool everything. So you probably installed it wrong somehow and/or set a moronic fan curve.
Actually I reseated it multiple times over the years.
Doesn't matter what the fan curve was, it throttled even at 100% fan speed.
im using this for my 7800x3d. 76c while gaming. -18 undervolt in bios
one fan only tho and its some NH- model
The D15 is definitely overpriced. I bought one about 4 years ago and it hasn't been specially good with either my 3600 or my 5900x. It doesn't need to reach 100% to be what I could consider noisy, it's too bulky and ugly as frick to boot. It's one of those things where you go in expecting that the big nig overcomplicated cooler in a gigantic box that costs nearly 100 bucks is going to suffice for whatever you throw at it and then it just manages to suck some dick.
I'm not replacing it because I'm not overly concerned about my CPU reaching 100% often, but if I was I'd be probably looking for something else.
Tried replacing this hunk of shit with an AIO. Everything fit into place, I plugged the fan connector into the right ports, switched from cpu_fan to pump_fan, etc etc.
Nothing worked,
swapped back to this pile of shit with its bracket and mounting set, it worked again.
Motherboard wouldn't even boot to the BIOs. Only a red CPU debug light would flash from the motherboard. With the AIO and its contact frame installed. Made sure everything was screwed into place and that the contact frame wasn't screwed in too tightly. Nothing worked kek.
I still want to replace the NH-D15 but I'm not sure with what. The arctic liquid 280mm didn't work out for me.
you forgot the C13, did you think such a huge piece of shit wouldn't require external power?
they don't make full copper heatsinks because it's not economically viable and aluminum actually releases heat better than copper.
>aluminum actually releases heat better than copper.
no, it doesnt, you dumb frick
I have one of these and it makes a whistle sound at a certain speed. Other than that, it's a great cooler.
thoughts on
>Thermalright Assassin spirit 120 evo
vs
>Endorfy Fera 5
not quite feeling dual tower coolers, I'm very sure I'd be fully content with a single tower cooler with maybe an extra fan slapped on too
why are you feeling your coolers? pick the best one at your price point, put it in, and never think about it again.
okay then, think for me
what is the best cooler at my price point of being 1$ short of the cheapest peerless assassin? so I could put it in and never think about it again
>bends under it's own weight when you tap the case
Noctua d15 is an overpriced POS that can easily be outperformed by other cheaper alternative air cooler