>there will never be another android ROM as sovlful as CyanogenMod
>ROM scene is pretty much dead except for things like Pixels
why even live?
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>there will never be another android ROM as sovlful as CyanogenMod
Google won
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>how can FREEEE be BAAADDD? I can tinker with it, so it's better!
there's a lot more pajeets and chinks than (You)
Jeets literally flooded the ROM scene with a billion pixel-experience clones
Why waste time when software that comes with the phone just works
>just works
>wouldn't let you mess with android data/obb folders
>wouldn't let non Samsung phones move clock to the right
>wouldn't let you uninstall crap like a stock lenovorola
Until it doesn't because companies realized that supporting updates for a phone for more than 4 years is not profitable because they are perfectly functional and people are less likely to buy a new one
7 years
Google Pixel
That will be 2031 or 2032 for the Pixel 9
We'll see in 7 years, now won't we? Not him but I won't put stock into Google's words until their actions back them up.
>Not him but I won't put stock into Google's words until their actions back them up.
Their actions are backing them up since 2018
Lineage is basically Cyanogen. What more do you want?
>Lineage is basically Cyanogen.
No, it's not. It's just a shitty spiritual successor. Cyanogen worked perfectly on all phones I've ever installed it, Lineage makes new phones unusable. Yes, even the official ROM, not only "LineAge OAss by Pajeet-bobveganalover666" from xda.
>Lineage makes new phones unusable
Been running Lineage on my Pixel 4A since Google stopped providing updates, haven't had a single issue.
If you have a pixel why not run graphene?
not him but i run lineage on a 6a
call me an npc but i dont feel like i need graphene. i'm not some high-profile target nor do i have 39GB of questionable material on my phone's UFS. lineage is a lot more comfy also because they've done a lot of work on the default AOSP apps (mainly modernizing them)
i do wish lineage let me relock the bootloader though
Hm, I didnt realize there is a big difference between custom rom security, and I was thinking that graphene might offer a better experience since its pixel only. Might try it myself when I get another pixel that wont frick itself up.
Graphene doesn't really make the experience worse though. It's not like QubeOS where everything is a pain. Only thing you lose with Graphene is Google Pay and Android Auto
Graphene devs drop support shortly after Google stops security updates.
>t. ex 4A user (my 6A is slower than both my 4A and S10e)
That's mostly caused by the phone manufacturers doing israelite things with things like VoLTE and how the camera works.
>Cyanogen
nah it definitely shat the bed with some models, at least with my lg Optimus One. And similar complains with different models was common.
Cyanogen was pretty based for a while back in the say. I remember running it on my Galaxy S where it would unlock voice call recording, something I don't think was possible in regular Android (at least not in the EU). Then shit starting getting degraded over time. Stuff like FM radio getting removed and location not working and stuff. I'm sure they had their reasons but after a while I just switched to a Nexus.
not too fond of the current los startup animation.
What's a good rom for a Motorola xt879/photon q that allows for modern app functionality?
>the creator trooned out
it literally is over
Some day I'll understand why it seems like the inevitable ending of so many (known) devs.
Corporations won. Regarding custom ROMs and device freedom, we're sadly in a dark age.
>less aftermarket modding scene, stock ROM allows for just enough customization for normies for them not to care
>more devices than ever before and less userbase per device, less pooled resources
>building ROMs requires a high end PC, 1 TB SSD, 8c/16t and 32 GB RAM are the absolute minimum to build and maintain something reasonably
>less devices with unlockable bootloaders, 70% of them are locked down glass slabs
>each device is harder to repair and analyze, they're all 6.7in glass sandwiches that are destructive to open
>corporations more restrictive than ever before, commercial software is dependent on a few companies which push hardware-backed DRM onto devices by design and turn anyone who dares to defy them into second class citizens. rooting and flashing custom ROMs entail more artificial drawbacks than pros
>point above means devices need to install stealth tools
>stealth tools become obsolete extremely quick and are very bothersome to develop and research. stealth tool developers like topjohnwu get snatched by megacorps and/or sabotaged by third parties who disclose root detection evasion to megacorps. it's a cat and mouse game and the cat has a giant money printer and infinite manpower we don't have
>what's left of the custom ROM scene is 70% pajeet rehashes of Pixel slop ROMs that want to emulate Google Pixel-like experiences that interface with locked down Google services and require spoofing
It's a cat and mouse game, except the mice are impoverished tribesmen and the cats are a multi trillion dollar corporation with infinite money and brains to throw at whatever we do to counter their gay shit. Current DRM evasion methods rely on a fallback for legacy devices and it won't be here forever.
i also forgot another important point
>locked down devices eventually create a generation of people without curiosity or agency making it hard to raise new mice or stealth tool developers since culture discourages hacking and self agency
Little bit of hope with Kernel SU.
>more devices than ever before and less userbase per device, less pooled resources
Treble partially resolves the issue. You can get some generic chinkphone with unlockable bootloader and flash a clean system onto it even if no one except yourself and factory workers touched this device.
This just makes me what to go back to a non-smart phone! I have been running lineageos on a Galaxy S5 without gapps installed for a few years now and works perfectly fine for my use case, but now I am going to be forced to upgrade because 3G services are being shutdown in my country and my S5 doesn't support VoLTE even thought it is a 4G phone. I have been struggling to find a suitable replacement that would allow me to install a custom rom because so few new phones are supported! I've been contemplating buying a used Pixel 3 or 4 and install lineage on it, but being that modern smartphones don't have easily replaceable batteries these days there is no telling how much life is left in phone's battery. Another thought I had was to purchase new Motorola phone and use universal android debloater and remove as much google stuff as possible but I don't know!
I'm not sure what to suggest as the only phones that are still produced with removable batteries are the likes of the Xcover 6 and there's zero chance of that getting a LOS build. Best thing I can suggest is buy a second hand OnePlus 9 Pro and if needed, get the battery replaced. That or a new Motorola Edge 30. Both have official LOS builds and decent dev support.
Your Samsung does support Volte. It's just that LineageOS broke it due to Samshit's implementation. And no one from LOS teamor any other groups managed to reverse engineer it so it works on custom roms.
It also has USB 3.0 support, but it too does not work on LineageOS.
Get the moto g5 fren
Cyanogen 2.3.7 on a Nexus One was a beautiful thing. One of my biggest regrets was getting rid of the phone but then I'd bought the Galaxy S2 and the ROM scene was fricking superb. These were the active years of Chainfire and Mobile Odin was a game changer.
i still remember my og galaxy note, basically a bigger galaxy S2. great days. cyanogenmod 10.1 was the goat and i kept using it until i had it stolen at the tail end of 2014. i miss the scene, i miss the freedom and i miss holo. shit just worked, your phone respected you and you didn't have to plan for gay countermeasures.
Yeah, I remember the first Note and had a couple in the series, the last one being a Note 10+. Samsung basically fricked the scene over around the Galaxy 3 as they didn't release the libs for their Exynos SOC even though they promised they would. A lot of people jumped ship to Sony and then onto OnePlus. Ironically, since the OPPO color/oxygenOS merge, OnePlus are now playing the same c**ts trick as Samsung did by delaying the release of their kernel sources and repair software which is impeding development.
I remember the first phone I got that didn't have custom roms. kept it a couple years but god was it a pain in the ass to use because it was never updated and stock rom was so fricking slow
then I changed it for my first chink phone (ZTE Nubla Z7 Max) and that was a life changer (and to this date my favorite phone ever)
I'm on a Redmi Note 10 Pro with crDroid now
same, whenever i experience these phones it's fricking hell. nowadays i have a redmi note 9 pro with official lineage and it's getting nicer with the years, almost back to the level it had when it was still cyanogenmod with a new set of custom AOSP replacement apps.
It was archived recently. it's ogre unless a miracle happens and google is beaten into submission by a bigger actor
PAC was nice, although my personal favorite were modded CyanogenMod spins with nifty features. I never tried Paranoid but I've heard it was great. Overall I miss Holo UI and how hassle free things were, AMOLED displays were heaven with these custom ROMs. chilling on the bus home listening to nice early 2010s EDM on my Galaxy Note with CM 10.1 with Apollo and Viper4Android to improve my $10 headset. talking with my loved ones over modded whatsapp with black theme. locked bootloader? safetynet? feminism? these were all non-issues in 2013. sometimes i just wish i could go back before shit hit the fan and we just started sitting while companies boiled the frog ever since
>its an xorg
xorg server was updated this week annon
>nowadays i have a redmi note 9 pro with official lineage
yeah I used to use official Lineage on mine too but I installed crDroid (official too) because I wanted Android 14
when LOS goes A14 too I'm switching back
AICP was the best rom tbh
pac ROM was better
Thank you man
Formal mantainer of the rom at the time for Nexus 4
nah it was slimroms
because rom devolpers have to code their os to work with EVERY single device they want to support including updates. because of this theres very little devices and the ones that are supported only get like 1 year of updates
this makes the current way of maintaing roms simply impossiable and is a major problem with the arm artechture. This problem even applies to stock android. Vendors have so many devices to manually port every update that they simply refuse to update any device thats more than 3-4 years old.
UMp
>normalgays mostly moved from PCs to phones
>PCs are slowly going away
>phones are getting more and more locked down
fuuuuuuuuck
Not a problem with notorola's
you mean the motorola that's going xiaomi mode and asking for extra bullshit and waiting before handing you the keys to your own device they hold hostage?
>extra steps
>just asking for a email to send the bootloader unlock key to
even with Xiaomi it's not really an issue
either keep using your old phone for 14 days or suffer with MIUI until you can unlock, it's not that hard
both are holding you out for ransom. the device should just react to the fastboot flashing unlock instruction with no extra shit involved. anything less than that is extortion.
The reason xiaomi added the phone number account 1 month unlock bullshit is because Chinese sellers were opening the phones and flashing them with adware / malware before shipping them to buyers.
No idea about Motorola
Motorola resellers are unlocking bootloaders of the chinese models and flashing the international firmware on it. The problem with that is they lock the bootloader making it near impossible to unlock it afterwards
Chinese sellers were also taking the Chinese versions, flashing with international roms, then selling them to people outside of China. It was a huge thing before they cracked down on it.
motorola's*
Can you guys give me pointers on how to get up to date regarding current mods, rooting and devices that support modding? Is reading XDA forums enough?
Interested about this as well.
xda is a wasteland nowadays. it's filled with moronic jeets asking for volte on their redmi note 7s. to me it seems like most people into android tinkering have scattered across the internet into small forums and discord servers.
as for devices that support rooting and stuff, barely anything except pixels and maybe a motorola or two from a few years ago actually has official (not xda custom jeetshit) lineageOS support. graphene is really popular now, but that's only on pixels. if you want a solid phone that has okay rom support, i'd personally recommend the moto g5 or moto g7 series. i got a good deal on a pixel 6a from my carrier so that's what i use (had to wait 180 days to unlock the bootloader, but for $150 brand new i can't complain). for more obscure devices GSIs are also an option although they don't usually work very well because they aren't specifically optimized for your device. my moto g pure (cheap shitty mediatek phone) didn't have a working headphone jack on every GSI i tried.
I still keep my Redmi Note 7 around to act as my rooted phone. I use it when I want to decrypt https traffic from apps. Great phone but I already moved on to the Redmi Note 11.
>Redmi Note 11
ah yes, the random reboot monster
piece of shit started randomly rebooting one day and every time it does it vibrates hard as frick
sent it in for warranty then sold it immediately
Frick, forgot to remove the name
Thanks anon for the info.
>xda is a wasteland nowadays. it's filled with moronic jeets
So where do people get their news these days then?
>barely anything except pixels and maybe a motorola or two from a few years ago actually has official (not xda custom jeetshit) lineageOS
Frick, that's fricking sad...
>graphene is really popular now, but that's only on pixels.
Ok, guess I'll start my research here then. Never cared much about Graphene tbh. Sounds like glowie bs. But I digress.
>mediatek
Aren't those shits eternally unsupported? I've heard they've become decent hardware, but still have no FOSS support.
>GSI
What's s GSI?
>What's s GSI?
Nvm, just googled it
>Generic System Images
>So where do people get their news these days then?
If I'm being honest with you, I have no idea. Like I said, everything's kinda scattered. I've just gotten back into the scene and all of the websites I once used are dead.
>Aren't those shits eternally unsupported? I've heard they've become decent hardware, but still have no FOSS support.
That's what I thought too. I haven't done a lot of research but they might be getting better about things. My shitty motorola just needed me to install some proprietary mediatek IMS apk and everything phone/text related magically started working.
>What's s GSI?
I know you looked it up, but they're basically generic images for OEMs to build Android versions off of. Supposedly it makes updating things easier (less time spent on each device). They're not really meant to be used daily but they're better than nothing. The whole project treble shit kinda resulted in disappointment. I wish you the best of luck on your journey.
Also off-topic but what do you think about actual Linux on phones now? Things like postmarketOS. Personally it seems like a joke but I'm curious.
>Also off-topic but what do you think about actual Linux on phones now? Things like postmarketOS.
You asking me or to any anons?
Never even looked at postmarketOS (whatever that is) but as long as shit like phone calls, LTE, cameras and similar stuff doesn't work or apps are buggy, it doesn't really matter and will continue being irrelevant.
Yeah, I was asking you.
I figured as much. Tinkering is fun but sometimes you just want shit to work. It's pretty sad that a lot of devices with postmarketOS support don't even support phone calls.
You should research the whole Pinephone fiasco if you get some free time. Made me appreciate Android, as awful as it may be.
I used to be a Paranoid Android guy myself.
I only used CyanogenMod early on when Android kinda sucked and my phone never really got any good updates. Things are way better nowadays.
>Things are way better nowadays
>some apps couldn't download on the sd cards on phones that still use sd cards
>quick settings buttins becime huge space wasters because google thinks everyone is a fat fingerlet disabled moron
>Recents View can only view one app at a time unless your phone is a Samshit or Xiaomeme
>Enabling/disabling Data Connections always popups up a confirmation mesage because some users are moronic
Weird, someone recommended this to me in a thread a couple days ago for an old tablet I had bought.
Yes, that was me. CyanogenMod would have probably been your only option but I doubt you'd be able to download any of the builds from anywhere as they'll have been took down a long time ago.
maybe you can find what you want here;
https://archive.org/details/cyanogenmod-archive
Nice one, thanks anon.
Many thanks for the additional followups 🙂
Gave up on the custom roms. For the Android that I have around the house I just use the ADB debloating scripts. The cell phone I take with me is a dumb flip phone.
Just use /e/ OS, it works just fine.
Yeah, I didn't mind e/OS but you need to use a third party launcher as the iOS clone implemented as not to scare off the normal folk is fricking tragic.
Love my graphene, only reason I got a pixel.
That’s why I gave in and bought an iPhone a few years ago. Google ran Android into the ground. Feels bad.
i played with Roms back on my samsung S3
it was fun and a nice learning experience
but then i got bored of it and really its just the same thing different look.
i now just buy a samsung A series phone stick to it's one ui and dont temper with it
i honestly grew tired of tempering with my devices.
i tend to just cope with whatever the manufacture throws and try to adapt to how they want you to have the experience
honestly some of the things they throw at you are nice and i enjoy using it but some other stuff are like meh tho i learned to just ignore it.
The only reason I dicked around with custom ROMs back in the day was to get updates for more than just two years. Now stock roms from the likes of samsung and pixel get updates for like 5 to 7 years so I dont bother anymore.
I was in college when smartphones came out. it was comfy af. also meant that I went through high school and college before tinder was a thing
sad to see that real droiders are dead... :C
Anyone here who is FULLY ROOTED with no GAPPS?
Lineage fricking sucks man. They have a dead crew of like 3 people ""maintaining" their shitty codebase.
The only custom ROM that matters in current year is Graphene. And yes you need a G Pixel for that. I don't make the rules,
Good, next time you'll donate