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no
why would you ever need 2 bars? Everything fits into one
>Everything fits into one
it doesn't, that's why they removed EVERYTHING from the panel after leaving only one
No, that's just the Gnome team being moronic.
You were free to remove one if you don't like it, it was like 2 clicks to do. You could also add a bunch more on other sides, stacked, pop-out inside drawer buttons in other panels, etc. Gnome 2 could be configured into just about any arrangement you wanted.
inb4 braindead zoomer lecturing me on how more freedom is somehow worse and it's so much better to have either 1 unmovable bar stuck at the bottom or 1 bar stuck at the top and one dock at the bottom, and how customization beyond "pick 1 color" is somehow bad
>You could also add a bunch more on other sides, stacked, pop-out inside drawer buttons in other panels, etc. Gnome 2 could be configured into just about any arrangement you wanted.
so a you could do a bunch of things that are totally useless in practice but they were fun for novelty value, wow so great
*so a you could do a bunch of things that are totally useless if you don't know how to use them properly
>implying it's hard to to cover your screen with 500 icons distributed across 9 panels and not just stupid
I said use them PROPERLY. Not moronicly.
1000% agreed my brotha
mate is just not the same
xfce is trash
everything else is a joke
>mate is just not the same
What is MATE missing?
Do you mean that MATE uses GTK3?
If yes you could port GTK2 themes to GTK3 and call it a day.
i'm anti gtk3
Then just compile the last GTK2 version of MATE,now you have your own fork of MATE.
I wish I could get this icon theme from somewhere.
GNOME2 was the XP of Linux DEs.
unity was kino
gnome2 was lukewarm at best
zoomer time
okay i know this "soul" thing is a meme, etc etc
but this kind of desktop has its very own identity and looks inviting even though it's all brown or whatever
If only there could be a standalone WM that emulates GNOME2 without being dependent on GTK.
Imagine something like how they turned fvwm into CDE with NSCDE but with GNOME2 instead.
it got killed off because onions devs took over the project and wanted to use css for everything. thats what you get when web dev Black folk get involved.
gnome 1.4 was better.
GNOME 1.x was basically just a KDE 2 ripoff
heres kde for comparison
Yes, but GNOME back then had enlightenment and after that Sawfish as a window manager which were way more powerful than Kwin.
Soul
Soulless.
Why did the gnome team give up if they had just improved on this version of gnome instead of removing all of the features they would have been bigger than kde and gtk would be the main Linux toolkit today.
They look nothing alike
>view as icons
ummm gnomesisters? what does it mean?
Man I miss old Linux. Desktop Linux is a joke now.
Why is it a joke now?
Just use MATE/TDE or IceWM,Fvwm,E16,WindowMaker,Sawfish and others.
I really want to pet this cat.
So do I.
why is the cat naked?
Because it wants to be naked.
ubuntu 9.10 was the last good version
I don't have nostalgia for the Kenrel I have nostalgia for the DEs and WMs.
I'd rather take something unstable over something that is just plain shit.
At least unstable software can be fixed.
>at least unstable software can be fixed
it was fixed, they called it gnome 40 and kde plasma 5 and they both made you seethe
Removing all the features and bloating it up with animations and effects isn't fixing.
>demand stable software
>all the unstable broken features are removed and replaced with stable working ones
>noooo not like that
animations aren't "bloating" it takes about 100 lines of code to implement most animations
you can turn off the animations anyway
>>all the unstable broken features are removed and replaced with stable working ones
Or instead you could disable all the unstable features by default and give the user the option to re-enable those unstable features.
Just warn them with a popup saying "This feature is unstable and currently has no maintainer only enable this feature on your own risk.
Bug reports won't be accepted if unstable features are enabled."
Gnome is worthless bloat with no redeeming features whatsoever.
Always has been.
Which WM/DE is not worthless bloat in your opinion? (don't say KDE, that's a lie)
Window Maker
the conky / Rainmeter widgets era of rice was a weird time
Something like this would be considered unacceptably bloated on a modern system but people ran even crazier setups all the time on their Core 2 Duo shitboxes. I wish I still had my old config from like 2007 somewhere
what even is that?
>he doesn't recognize the Rainmeter Arc Clock (tm)
kids these days, I bet you've never even broken your OS with a sketchy theme patcher
here's a nickel punk, go buy yourself a REAL desktop environment (this is only from 2012 jesus christ)
It's bizarre, nowdays they remove seconds in the clock
because updating something every second is an issue for windows
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20220411-00/?p=10645
yes
i just use an extremely minimal config of xfce because i am typically filling the screen with some application or terminal anyway
I never claimed to have.
I just said that everything does indeed fit in a panel, and the Gnome team is just moronic.
le born in the wrong generation am i right XD
Enlightenment in 1999 was the true kino, for the first time people could make their desktop look like the Hackers movie
You can still install E16. it's still being maintained alongside the modern E.
I don't know why people stopped using E16.
In 2008 I went to work for Apple and during training got bored to tears and installed glibc,X11 and E16 and ran them ontop of OS-X. When I left training they had to wipe the thing for the next trainee because they couldn't figure out what I did lol
Forgot SS
Without context, this is one of the most confusing images I've ever seen.
I think that's e17
ahh my bad, its been a minute
That's literally just osx
I used to run a full GNU userland and DE on every OS X machine I've had, even on PPC machines.
some *box skins also looked as gaudy
criminal amounts of SOUL, hating skeumorphism is for midwits and minimalism is for cowards
Thanks for posting this pic, I just installed E16 again.
Not really, if you built your PC and picked the hardware specifically for Linux, you had no issues.
These days it's full of politics and broken software.
>the os that was started by literal socialists as a protest, that was broken unless you bought very specific hardware
>not full of politics and broken software
Yes, correct. Worked well if you had the right hardware. Imagine "Hackintoshing" but with Linux.
We're talking about the early/mid 2000's.
Linus is not a socialist.
Linus is not a socialist and Linux is not an OS.
>Gnome *AND* KDE at the same time
Explain to me why this OS is considered safe by infosec turds if it is based on Fedora.
most infosec cucks are authoritarian morons who have blind trust things that are dressed up in authoritative clothing
so red hat is a big company that has tons of contractors including government contractors so they must be reliable right?
Spending a non-zero amount of time reading infosec twitter and blogs has convinced me that privacy and security are mutually exclusive even if they actually aren't. Frick madidas in particular.
soul
Glad it did, it incentivized people to create better and popularize tiling window managers like dwm and now DE are pretty much a thing of the past.
just wait until you find yourself using software other than a terminal emulator and web browser, kills the "usefulness" of every tiling wm instantly
>Just jump through these several hoops, tie you hands behind your back and use poorly designed software that ignores window manager requests and then you will see just how bad tiling window managers are.
Its almost like people use computers for different things
there was an anon that said back an old thread about classic linux DEs that he have a collection of screenshots of various old DEs and said he is planning to create a torrent, are you in this thread anon ?
I miss these looks
Last good version of Ubuntu was 10.10.
Heard they got their shit together by 22.04 LTS but I've been too comfortable on openSUSE since 5 years ago to even try it out again.
Things went downhill from here.
actually, i think things only went up hill from there
Carlos!
Ubuntu 10.04 just worked on my shitty netbook. I think you're the one that never used Linux back then.
I used it. My shit worked and it was good.
It was more stable than XP in the late 00s for sure.
guess you never tried to use wifi or plug in a usb drive during that period
i did install the ati driver on it, but "the windows way" (the only way i was familiar with), by downloading the .run from the ati website and running it (after spending 5 minutes being confused why "cd desktop" didn't work (case sensitivity))
i did use wifi on it as well, pretty sure by using ndiswrapper to use the windows driver
i owned a usb drive as well, not sure what kind of problem you're even referring to with that one
>worked on my machine lel!!
same shit every year
well what's wrong with that?
if you really wanted to use linux, you would just buy hardware linux supports, that what i do (not that that's very difficult nowadays)
it's an extremely minor inconvenience at this point
>linux is about freedom!
>but you must only buy this very specific hardware that we insist you buy and are definitely not profiting from in any way
i'm not going to give this obvious troll post a serious answer
ask yourself who is funding linux then come back
i guess i was just lucky, i first used linux in 2004 and had it installed on my laptop for a couple of years without issue
of course i was a total noob, so much so that i didn't even find out about package management on that installation
>how did you install anything then?
i didn't, it came with everything i needed like firefox/gaim/k3b/etc so it was hardly an issue
actually i guess it was mozilla at the time, not firefox
point is it was a capable browser, unlike what comes ootb with windows xp
You might not believe it, but if you ever get access to hardware from that era download ubuntu 8.04 and try it out for yourself.
It actually was the peak of the Linux desktop experience.
It had less issues that it does now. It all went downhill from there unironically.
then why aren't you using it now
Because I'm not using 2007 era hardware. Also, nowadays I wouldn't like the interface that much, I'd just use a window manager. I care more about responsiveness than eye candy. But it's way better than the modern Gnome.
t. never spent any time learning to use modern gnome
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And then came SerenityOS.
yeah rh made every aspect of the system suck - packagekit , systemshit, pa