its because to the contemporary German the coal barge on the Rhein river doesn’t have the same allure of permanence as the egyptian merchant raft on the Nile in Prolemaic Egypt.
Why is this important? I dont know.
But it is a struggle to have to live without.
where do the Germans who organize the system for the barge to transport the coal get their allure of transcendence from then if they dont care about the Rhein?
it becomes a perpetual drive to infinity as the merchant abandons the region he has profited of as he then turns to farther lands to satiate his same craving only to eviscerate his new found place of respite with his desire to capitalize on it.
Imo the conundrum isnt the merchant, but the Schwarzwald hermit who contends himself with living a torpid life of endless aestivation, as he only rejects to re-build the allure, but never actually builds himself.
2 years ago
Anonymous
a man who lives like a plant at the end of the day.
“…I have heard the perfect man dwells corpse-like within his four walls…” -zhuang zhi
>The extreme weakness of H. Marcuse's analysis in One Dimensional Man is his failure to see that the appearance of such a man is the most direct result of the technological system, of, among other things, the autonomy of technology. Marcuse's attributing this change to a political or politico-social regime merely proves the inadequacy of his sociology and probably also testifies to his desire to escape by the skin of his teeth and to preserve some hope. >I will not refer here to Marcuse's theory of one-dimensional man, for it is not
new, many others before him have said exactly the same thing (the first, perhaps, being Arnaud Dandieu in 1929). Marcuse merely adds a bogus Marxism/Freudianism, which only complicates matters uselessly without contributing anything. He seduces readers with his philosophical parlance which makes him sound deep, whereas he is really intellectually confused-and by a verbal extremism which makes readers believe in his revolutionary commitment. Luckily, the illusions about him are starting to dissipate.
Read Ellul.
I never really was able to have a clear overview of Ellul's important works because few seem to have been translated.
Do you know of some chart, list etc. that one can go off?
Or do you have your own recommendations of what of his one really ought to read?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'll probably make a chart in the future after I read some of his rarer books still in French. But the general idea is:
Start with The Presence of the Kingdom as an intro to his ideas.
Read The Technological Society, Propaganda, The Political Illusion, The Technological System and the Technological Bluff as his main works on Technique (he mentions previous works and explicitly wrote them following one another).
His Christian writings are much more numerous and harder to put in a linear order. He has works on specific books on the Bible like the Judgment of Jonah and Apocalypse and works centred around an idea using the Bible as a source of God's revelation to man, such as The Meaning of the City and The Theological Foundation of Law. For general Christian ideas I would recommend starting with The False Presence of the Kingdom (as a followup to Presence), The Subversion of Christianity, and Anarchy and Christianity.
Remember that Ellul wanted his theological and sociological works to be read in hand with one another, and viewed his entire oeuvre as one large book with many chapters.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What are some of the main ideas in his theological works? I've read The Technological Society.
No, I'm pretty sure they just didn't read it; Knowing what to expect; Paid for establishment hack.
Bibliography
Books
Hegel's Ontology and the Theory of Historicity (1932
Studie über Autorität und Familie (1936) in German, republished 1987, Study on Authority and Family
Reason and Revolution: Hegel and the Rise of Social Theory (1941)
Eros and Civilization: A Philosophical Inquiry into Freud (1955
Soviet Marxism: A Critical Analysis (1958)[50]
One-Dimensional Man: Studies in the Ideology of Advanced Industrial Society (1964)
A Critique of Pure Tolerance (1965) Essay "Repressive Tolerance,"
Negations: Essays in Critical Theory (1968)
An Essay on Liberation (1969)
Five Lectures (1969)
Counterrevolution and Revolt (1972)
The Aesthetic Dimension: Toward a Critique of Marxist Aesthetics (1978)
They just get paid to write the right books, then the media gets paid to push the books, by hosting the israelite-nerd in some talkshow or interview, or running some ads. Then some politician gets paid to say: "Ah yes, that's what America thinks. Let's make it law".
Yes, chud. Oppressed lumpenproles have the right - nay, the duty - to oppose settler neo kulaks like small business owners, small farmers, etc. and side with progressive big capital.
Hey, that’s that one Magritte painting
>pogress, improved living standards and quality of life is bad… be-because it just is, OK?!
i dont buy it
its because to the contemporary German the coal barge on the Rhein river doesn’t have the same allure of permanence as the egyptian merchant raft on the Nile in Prolemaic Egypt.
Why is this important? I dont know.
But it is a struggle to have to live without.
where do the Germans who organize the system for the barge to transport the coal get their allure of transcendence from then if they dont care about the Rhein?
it becomes a perpetual drive to infinity as the merchant abandons the region he has profited of as he then turns to farther lands to satiate his same craving only to eviscerate his new found place of respite with his desire to capitalize on it.
Imo the conundrum isnt the merchant, but the Schwarzwald hermit who contends himself with living a torpid life of endless aestivation, as he only rejects to re-build the allure, but never actually builds himself.
a man who lives like a plant at the end of the day.
“…I have heard the perfect man dwells corpse-like within his four walls…” -zhuang zhi
>The extreme weakness of H. Marcuse's analysis in One Dimensional Man is his failure to see that the appearance of such a man is the most direct result of the technological system, of, among other things, the autonomy of technology. Marcuse's attributing this change to a political or politico-social regime merely proves the inadequacy of his sociology and probably also testifies to his desire to escape by the skin of his teeth and to preserve some hope.
>I will not refer here to Marcuse's theory of one-dimensional man, for it is not
new, many others before him have said exactly the same thing (the first, perhaps, being Arnaud Dandieu in 1929). Marcuse merely adds a bogus Marxism/Freudianism, which only complicates matters uselessly without contributing anything. He seduces readers with his philosophical parlance which makes him sound deep, whereas he is really intellectually confused-and by a verbal extremism which makes readers believe in his revolutionary commitment. Luckily, the illusions about him are starting to dissipate.
Read Ellul.
its been some years, is this from "Technological Society" or where does Ellul mention Marcuse
This is from The Technological System's footnotes.
I never really was able to have a clear overview of Ellul's important works because few seem to have been translated.
Do you know of some chart, list etc. that one can go off?
Or do you have your own recommendations of what of his one really ought to read?
I'll probably make a chart in the future after I read some of his rarer books still in French. But the general idea is:
Start with The Presence of the Kingdom as an intro to his ideas.
Read The Technological Society, Propaganda, The Political Illusion, The Technological System and the Technological Bluff as his main works on Technique (he mentions previous works and explicitly wrote them following one another).
His Christian writings are much more numerous and harder to put in a linear order. He has works on specific books on the Bible like the Judgment of Jonah and Apocalypse and works centred around an idea using the Bible as a source of God's revelation to man, such as The Meaning of the City and The Theological Foundation of Law. For general Christian ideas I would recommend starting with The False Presence of the Kingdom (as a followup to Presence), The Subversion of Christianity, and Anarchy and Christianity.
Remember that Ellul wanted his theological and sociological works to be read in hand with one another, and viewed his entire oeuvre as one large book with many chapters.
What are some of the main ideas in his theological works? I've read The Technological Society.
>The problem is bourgeois consciousness
>Rockefellers funded this book
b
again
No, I'm pretty sure they just didn't read it; Knowing what to expect; Paid for establishment hack.
Bibliography
Books
Hegel's Ontology and the Theory of Historicity (1932
Studie über Autorität und Familie (1936) in German, republished 1987, Study on Authority and Family
Reason and Revolution: Hegel and the Rise of Social Theory (1941)
Eros and Civilization: A Philosophical Inquiry into Freud (1955
Soviet Marxism: A Critical Analysis (1958)[50]
One-Dimensional Man: Studies in the Ideology of Advanced Industrial Society (1964)
A Critique of Pure Tolerance (1965) Essay "Repressive Tolerance,"
Negations: Essays in Critical Theory (1968)
An Essay on Liberation (1969)
Five Lectures (1969)
Counterrevolution and Revolt (1972)
The Aesthetic Dimension: Toward a Critique of Marxist Aesthetics (1978)
Lol no sources listed for the "stated goals" eh?
Some of them look like hyperlinks.
Anyway, Adorno's only goal was money and helping the american government.
>A bunch of nerds entirely responsible for destroying the West
I‘m calling based
They just get paid to write the right books, then the media gets paid to push the books, by hosting the israelite-nerd in some talkshow or interview, or running some ads. Then some politician gets paid to say: "Ah yes, that's what America thinks. Let's make it law".
>woah, no way, Marcuse was israeli? that changes everything
frick off morons. how do you not already know this?
>foreigners, immigrants, AIDS-homosexuals and criminals GOOD
Yes, chud. Oppressed lumpenproles have the right - nay, the duty - to oppose settler neo kulaks like small business owners, small farmers, etc. and side with progressive big capital.
I love these oldhead wn 1.0 infographs. They were so untainted with irony.
Marcuse can filter his lips through muh dik
All Marxists that talk about repressive bourgeois sexuality are moronic fetishists, Lenin was right about that.
It’s the Call of the Crocodile of it’s time.