and that's you don't stop to point that out. companies don't care about giving you a good product. they want your money. don't pay unless they give you better shit. you know they will become stagnant if you let them
Any OLED's brightness is as on par or worse than any LCD. The rest yeah alongside the flicker when you actually try to play games dark scenes.
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On average yes but they can for a short time, punch individual areas, as tiny as individual pixels up to say 800 nits with some higher end panels and even high with absurdly expensive ones.
So you can get a blinding sun for a few seconds in your movie if the director wanted to BUT I might br wrong here but I've looked into metadata of all these files, HDR10, + etc. and there's no metadata for the individual pixels around the sun rather it makes the entire screen go to 800 nits for a short while, maybe I didn't look good or something changed.
Anyway I personally will stick with IPS and VA panels at 100 static nits as my brain does everything automatically and my eyes feel more relaxed over a predictable environment. After adjustment I feel the sale watching such a panel as I would with watching a true HDR display going very bright for one scene.
flickering is a lot better than all the image smeared. flickering will only make your eyes sore after like 5 hours unless you're a moron and watch near a TV. same with LCD. the brigthness on close range would bother yo too. use monitors.
>I would never play trash that is locked to 60
you already have. multiple times. don't lie.
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>flickering will only make your eyes sore after like 5 hours
And I can use my LCD all day without getting sore eyes.
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I do work as well. 9hs a day and I don't need a 4k 500hz OLED display to work. regular ass 1080 and a 1600x900 old shit so I can watch videos.
If I wanted a slideshow I would just watch a movie. For moving around in a gameworld you should at LEAST hit 75Hz but once you get to 120Hz there's just no going back. The immersion is just absolute bliss.
It's like your brain syncs with the game or something.
And yet I posted 120hz and it looks marginally better. Mostly to foster discussion on why monitors still suck ass 20 years later. But you're a dumb gorilla shitbrain consoomer that feels threatened by having bought a monitor with worse performance than shit tier 20 year old crt's so I guess we won't have that.
Actually based and underrated post right there
Now that C4 is out, C2 is going to get even cheaper
That screen is still GOATed for gaming/media consumption
The only downside is when you need to read texts for a long time, but any cheap 1080p 24" screen on the side should suffice
oleds are incredibly fricking stupid
only literal trannies have this severe colorautism. everyone who experiences this first world "problem" should shoot themselves
not to mention OLED is PWModulated which fries your eyes and brain
False. You didn't want to pay for it, but Pioneer Kuro plasma has been unsurpassed. While certain screens can come close in certain regards, from a "total package" perspective the Kuro from 2009 is the only large format flat screen tech that truly improved upon CRT.
Today, the best option for smooth motion with digital media is going to be laser projectors. DLP does not suffer from the stuttering you get with sample-and-hold tech. I have Optoma UHZ50 laser projector with a CineGrey ALR screen (ALR means it will not reflect light sources that are at an angle to the screen). The UHZ50 works great for 4K media and has low input lag for gaming.
>False.
Can you get this in 4k 24-27" sizes for desktop PC use? If not your point is wrong >laser projectors
Subpar brightness, Subpar blacks, even more so in non-light controlled environments. Can't use it as a desktop monitor
>Monitors stop at 27"
Also a myth, especially for monitors with the pointless 16:9 ratio, where 27" is small. 3:2 would be ideal...
I use my PC for working and when I want to play games or watch movies, I have a projector. Why is that hard for you?
>Projector myths from 1992.
Quality laser projectors look great. Why would you be in a "non light controlled" environment. Invest in some curtains, clown.
>Or, is it because I'm not an autistic homosexual? I think my hypothesis is more likely to be correct.
Being able to make basic observations about the gaping shortcomings of "digital flat panel" display take makes one an autistic homosexual? Or are you just a dumbass npc who still listens to dubstep because noise is "music" just like vaping is smoking.
I DO NOT CARE what a single frame of motion looks like
I am never freeze-framing my display to inspect how blurry it may be in motion.
The happy truth is that LED, OLED, LCD, IPS, CRT, plasma are all just completely fine viewing experiences. CRTs are frickhuge and I don't want to ever have to carry one again.
Simply disable motion blur.
this is pure cope. a CRT even with interlaced 60 aka 59.979 from ntsc looks thousand times better than any OLED can do at 240
It's pathetic that we still don't have CRT tier monitors 20 years later.
and that's you don't stop to point that out. companies don't care about giving you a good product. they want your money. don't pay unless they give you better shit. you know they will become stagnant if you let them
>2020+4
>still bases his opinions on faulty tests due to not understanding how cameras operate
kek
>60fps
irrelevant
120fps is the new minimum, poorgay
What about when game's capped at 60? Anyway here's 120fps.
Now take 1-2 milliom contrast ratio/HDR/brightness/viewing angels into account and compare it to everything else.
Any OLED's brightness is as on par or worse than any LCD. The rest yeah alongside the flicker when you actually try to play games dark scenes.
On average yes but they can for a short time, punch individual areas, as tiny as individual pixels up to say 800 nits with some higher end panels and even high with absurdly expensive ones.
So you can get a blinding sun for a few seconds in your movie if the director wanted to BUT I might br wrong here but I've looked into metadata of all these files, HDR10, + etc. and there's no metadata for the individual pixels around the sun rather it makes the entire screen go to 800 nits for a short while, maybe I didn't look good or something changed.
Anyway I personally will stick with IPS and VA panels at 100 static nits as my brain does everything automatically and my eyes feel more relaxed over a predictable environment. After adjustment I feel the sale watching such a panel as I would with watching a true HDR display going very bright for one scene.
>What about when game's capped at 60?
PowerPoint presentations are not games.
>What about when game's capped at 60?
I would never play trash that is locked to 60
CRTs with 60hz are also unusable due to flickering
again, 120hz is the bare minimum
flickering is a lot better than all the image smeared. flickering will only make your eyes sore after like 5 hours unless you're a moron and watch near a TV. same with LCD. the brigthness on close range would bother yo too. use monitors.
>I would never play trash that is locked to 60
you already have. multiple times. don't lie.
>flickering will only make your eyes sore after like 5 hours
And I can use my LCD all day without getting sore eyes.
I do work as well. 9hs a day and I don't need a 4k 500hz OLED display to work. regular ass 1080 and a 1600x900 old shit so I can watch videos.
What do you watch besides test patterns?
Your mother undressing before I slam my hard dick into her.
That's not what I heard... she said you couldn't get it up and cried over a picture of a UFO.
yaoi
This. 60 FPS is literally console dogshit quality.
Jesus christ how about you actually play the fricking game you IQfyirgins. Who cares if it's even at 30fps, JUST PLAY IT
If I wanted a slideshow I would just watch a movie. For moving around in a gameworld you should at LEAST hit 75Hz but once you get to 120Hz there's just no going back. The immersion is just absolute bliss.
It's like your brain syncs with the game or something.
>poorgay
>not spending money on stupid shit is poor
mashallah
120hz isn't stupid
its the bare minimum usable
you're coping
hence poorgay
Don't bother. OP is the moronic CRT schizo. He is desperate for people to care about response time at 60Hz to validate his garbage.
And yet I posted 120hz and it looks marginally better. Mostly to foster discussion on why monitors still suck ass 20 years later. But you're a dumb gorilla shitbrain consoomer that feels threatened by having bought a monitor with worse performance than shit tier 20 year old crt's so I guess we won't have that.
Shock and horror, OP is indeed the low-IQ CRT schizo:
You have to use bfi but then that would be eye cancer since it'll be double flicker, as oleds already flicker natively.
What monitor is it?
all of them
you are moronic have a nice day Black person
aw3423dwf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
monitor
now let's see performance on a real screen (oled42c2pua)
Great for movies and maybe even some gaming with a controller, would never use it for anything else.
Actually based and underrated post right there
Now that C4 is out, C2 is going to get even cheaper
That screen is still GOATed for gaming/media consumption
The only downside is when you need to read texts for a long time, but any cheap 1080p 24" screen on the side should suffice
oleds are incredibly fricking stupid
only literal trannies have this severe colorautism. everyone who experiences this first world "problem" should shoot themselves
not to mention OLED is PWModulated which fries your eyes and brain
And yet there's nothing better
>And yet there's nothing better
False. You didn't want to pay for it, but Pioneer Kuro plasma has been unsurpassed. While certain screens can come close in certain regards, from a "total package" perspective the Kuro from 2009 is the only large format flat screen tech that truly improved upon CRT.
Today, the best option for smooth motion with digital media is going to be laser projectors. DLP does not suffer from the stuttering you get with sample-and-hold tech. I have Optoma UHZ50 laser projector with a CineGrey ALR screen (ALR means it will not reflect light sources that are at an angle to the screen). The UHZ50 works great for 4K media and has low input lag for gaming.
lol shut up Black person I'm not paying $6000 on a fricking monitor
>lol shut up Black person I'm not paying $6000 on a fricking monitor
The projector is $3000 or less, and a 10 ft wide screen $600. You're an idiot.
The only issue is having enough room to set it up, because the projector needs to be 1.5 times the screen width away from the screen.
>False.
Can you get this in 4k 24-27" sizes for desktop PC use? If not your point is wrong
>laser projectors
Subpar brightness, Subpar blacks, even more so in non-light controlled environments. Can't use it as a desktop monitor
>Monitors stop at 27"
Also a myth, especially for monitors with the pointless 16:9 ratio, where 27" is small. 3:2 would be ideal...
I use my PC for working and when I want to play games or watch movies, I have a projector. Why is that hard for you?
>Projector myths from 1992.
Quality laser projectors look great. Why would you be in a "non light controlled" environment. Invest in some curtains, clown.
Second hand Kuro costs $600-900 now
Why do you want more than 60 fps? It's just larp or flex. I've just got an old monitor, it does its job well
I never understand these autistic threads, when an image is in motion I never see shit.
>when an image is in motion I never see shit
that's the problem
we would like to actually see what's moving
>when an image is in motion I never see shit.
This is because your monitor has poor motion resolution.
Or, is it because I'm not an autistic homosexual? I think my hypothesis is more likely to be correct.
>Or, is it because I'm not an autistic homosexual? I think my hypothesis is more likely to be correct.
Being able to make basic observations about the gaping shortcomings of "digital flat panel" display take makes one an autistic homosexual? Or are you just a dumbass npc who still listens to dubstep because noise is "music" just like vaping is smoking.
I DO NOT CARE what a single frame of motion looks like
I am never freeze-framing my display to inspect how blurry it may be in motion.
The happy truth is that LED, OLED, LCD, IPS, CRT, plasma are all just completely fine viewing experiences. CRTs are frickhuge and I don't want to ever have to carry one again.
ant that is fine. good to know people is honest.
When is microled gonna become manufacturable at scale and price so we can stop arguing over these current displays.
I had 150hz 800x600 CRT when i played quake
I've never had a game run that smooth ever since, even on my new 144hz uled TV
feels good to be nr1 for decades.
TN chads, we can't stop winning
>30 years later and we still can't match the most basic b***h crts
It's over isn't it
Unequivocally
>120hz
desk space > *