This is the comfiest desktop environment.
No matter how much I try to look for something more "aesthetic", more suitable for ricing, with more "support" or more "features", I always end up coming back home to MATE.
It's functional, lightweight, easy to customize, works out of the box, and just fricking c o m f y.
Also Caja is unironically the best file manager.
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>Also Caja is unironically the best file manager.
Too visually noisy. I prefer Thunar for its simplicity.
no wayland session so its limited forever as far as its potential quality long term.
>no wayland session so its limited forever as far as its potential quality long term.
not a problem, XWayland exists and translates between the two. Also, Wayland is only a protocol, the implementation you refer to as Wayland is only a reference implementation, not intended for production use.
>Is it still Gnome 2 with some patches to keep it compiling in 2024?
Nope, been fully ported to GTK3 for years now. Also uses GNU autotools to build, so basically builds anywhere and everywhere forever so long as POSIX exists, cant say the same for GNOME, which only builds on a small number of Linuxes
>Also, Wayland is only a protocol, the implementation you refer to as Wayland is only a reference implementation, not intended for production use.
lol. lmao even
>no support for gayland sabotage
that's a really good feature
It does have wayland support now, just experimental.
You should stay on X11 aynway thoughever.
Is it still Gnome 2 with some patches to keep it compiling in 2024?
yes and no, yes in the sense that it's still gnome 2-like, but no in the sense that it's just gnome 2 with build patches, like for example it's been ported to gtk3 during that time, not exactly a minor task i'm sure
>like for example it's been ported to gtk3 during that time
That was really my question.
I can't believe those crazy bastards actually did it. They're fricked if GTK ever goes CSD only though, something that seemed pretty likely for a while.
They wouldn't be - it would involve more effort, but not impossible. If GtkWindow enforced use of header bars and didn't expose any API for requesting SSD (in the case of Wayland/X) - it would still be possible to write your own GtkWindow instead.
I've done this for some GTK widgets in the past, since you can nick the source and either implement the extra stuff you need or bin off stuff you don't. It can be a bit agg, but I think it'll be inevitable, especially if theme support (including icon themes since they're being dropped in GTK5) is desired.
It has had a shitton of development since the GNOME 2 days, it's pretty much its own thing.
gnome2 was cool, but why does mate/mint have to default to green? it looks terrible
both mate and mint are named after leaves/plants
i know the origin. i wasn't asking in that sense. i mean, how can anyone think that those shades of green are a good idea for a computer gui
while it's not my favourite, green is a common favourite colour
recently moved to debian + mate and its so good, no idea why i didnt do it earlier
Can you configure the top bar to hide?
right click on left/right edge, properties, autohide or just delete it
>forced client side window decorations
This was the very first thing I hated about Wayland. At that time I still had hope they'd fix their shit.
Just be a good goy and use libdecor