>Throwing your country into total chaos every decade is actually good thing.

>Throwing your country into total chaos every decade is actually good thing.
Was Thomas Jefferson the first memespeaker? I seriously doubt he actually believes his own words.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    he supported the jacobins lol

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >rebel
      >against reactionaries
      doesnt that make you a reactionary as well?

      • 2 months ago
        Fledgling Investor

        No. Read some Marx.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He was an early version of college liberals who are so far removed from the realities of the world that they support things like abolishing the police

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      And he supported himself with slave labor while preaching that slavery was wrong

      Very similar to leftists who claim to care about stuff but rely on doordash servants to get food

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they support things like abolishing the police
      Not a single person has said this. At most, they advocate for defending the police and addressing the root of crime instead.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Claiming "no one says this" is entirely disingenuous because there are plenty of morons online who hold literally any extremist opinion you can imagine. There are thousands of redditors out there who want to entirely disband police and replace them with social workers.
        >the root cause of crime
        is people's personal moral failings. Trying to claim crime is caused by economic circumstance is bullshit - crime is caused by lazy frickers who want shit without working for it, in richer circumstances they just skim off the top in ways not involving direct property theft

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >crime is caused by lazy frickers who want shit without working for it
          There are more crimes than theft, moron.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, there's also rape (being too lazy to actually seduce a woman to get sex), drug use (being too lazy to actually accomplish things to get dopamine), assault (being too monkey-brained to work things out like a civilized person), and so on

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It's all just laziness!
            Utterly braindead, reductive, boomer way of thinking. I'd bet money on it being projection.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >NOOOO you can't make me take responsibility for my own choices!!! Everything is le systemic factors!!!
            Utterly braindead zoomer way of thinking

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          He's straight up lying. Everyone knows the left called for the abolishment of police years ago and still do. They just want to memoryhole it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            One quick google search says this is a lie
            https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.html
            The left did call for abolishing the police.

            Police/prison abolition doesn't venture out of sociology textbooks or off campus much. Closest thing is how many legal systems deliberately try to keep people out of prison and keep police unarmed.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You keep lying when it was one most popular protest slogans of leftists on the streets in 2020. The left made it explitically clear they wanted to abolish the police and abolish prison.
            I'm not sure why you're lying about something that anyone can prove with a five second google search.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Abolitionism mainly popular among Angela Davis acolytes. Legal reform on the other hand (like altering or eliminating qualified immunity and mandatory minimums) has very substantial support.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            the average black has no idea what that means, and neither do the people they elected

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dilate

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's not as clear-cut, and any criminologist who's honest will tell you that it's a combination of individual agency and more systemic issues like poverty, unemployment, drug/alcohol use, access to lethal weapons, # of unwanted children, etc. None of those is 1:1 with crime but there's a clear relationship.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous Mogul

          But it's flat out silly. Like 95% of liberals go with reforming or defunding the police. Only the loud schizos would ever suggest flat out removing them

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        One quick google search says this is a lie
        https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.html
        The left did call for abolishing the police.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      cops didn't exist until 9/11

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      And he supported himself with slave labor while preaching that slavery was wrong

      Very similar to leftists who claim to care about stuff but rely on doordash servants to get food

      Thomas Jefferson was the 18th century Hasan

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I seriously doubt he actually believes his own words.
    It was a pretty mainstream opinion. Sam Adams said he wanted America to be a "Christian Sparta" of Puritan plantations who did nothing but work and prepare for war.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jefferson was a bit of a moron but he knew that he was so a lot of his worst ideas were filtered out by Madison.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rebellion is necessary. Every power structure, even if it started with noble I benevolent aims, eventually drifts towards the self-interest of those in charge. There's a lot of very powerful people in the world and none of them have your best interests in mind. Revolution refreshes the system and having them at regular intervals keeps the elites from degrading the common good too far

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jefferson's idea was for the US to destroy itself every generation and each new generation get to make a whole new constitution and government. Who wants a modern American to rebuild society?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're thinking of trotsky, you actual subhuman

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Modern Americans wouldn't be the way modern Americans are if there'd been a revolution every 40 years since the 1800s

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Modern Americans wouldn't be the way modern Americans are if there'd been a revolution every 40 years since the 1800s
          There has been a revolution every 40 years since the 1800s, if you think about it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He would have liked Argentina. They had civil wars every other year in the 1800s and basically 3 regime changes in the first 50 years of their existence.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How are storms a good thing for the physical world?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I interpret it as that storms are a "necesarry evil" as they cause destruction while also bringing water to otherwise arid regions, and rebellion is likewise also a "necesarry evil" as they bring destruction and instibility while also brining about necesarry reform and change. Not saying I agree with Jefferson, but pretty sure thats what he was attempting to say

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Throwing your country into total chaos every decade is actually good thing.
    I sorta see the point in this now. Politicians end freedom when they become too comfortable. That's why best thing for freedom is to strip politicians of all privileges' and protections, so if something happens to them we can just easily replace them.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He was a pedophile

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He clearly said that this "rebellion" does not exist in the physical world.

  10. 2 months ago
    Rich Investor

    Honestly reading Thomas Jefferson's continuous sucking off of the the French Revolution did more to lower my opinion of the man than Sally Hemings ever could have.

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