Tick-tock space-timies. Space-time is not fundamental and the work around the amplituhedron is about to blow that wide open over the next decade.

Tick-tock space-timies. Space-time is not fundamental and the work around the amplituhedron is about to blow that wide open over the next decade. After that there will be npc mass suicides when our perception of reality through space-time is exposed as an abstraction of the real thing

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    spacetime is perfect example of where someone ASSumes something dumb, then morons develop on this dumb assumption, then another morons try to create problems on this assumption that another morons will solve problems on this assumption using another assumption based on this assumption.
    Creating full spaghetti of fragile made up science

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly. Same with any "theoretical science."

      You don't just randomly say "this is how I think things work" then jam the maths together to make it so. You don't start with a conclusion and work your way backwards. At least not if you're a respectable "scientist."

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yup Einstein is the greatest hack fraud of the 20th century

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          wow i thought this was going to be a decent thread about the amplituhedron… how foolish of me

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            We're only 5 in, we can still save it

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            you need a math phd to even define what it is, we're not gonna talk about it here

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            i could give you a babby tier definition if you like: the amplituhedron is a shortcut method for calculating how particles scatter in collisions that (aims to) replace feynman path integrals (involving space time and virtual particles to many loops) with basically a pure geometry calculation.

            the actual math involved is hard, or not even fully well-defined yet, but i could imagine a future where people think automatically about S-matrices in terms of the amplituhedron/polytope picture and they would say that feynman diagrams and loops of virtual particles are far out nonsense you need a PhD in math to define

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I get that the replace the feynman diagram integrals and virtual particles because those were just an abstraction is all along but i'm curious how the shape itself is defined. sounds like that's the hard part though

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If theologists in the middle ages had category theory and topology, they would have used "hard math, and not even fully well-defined yet" to describe their cohorts of angels to explain the trinity. They abused math and metaphysics the same way theoretical "physicists" do today.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I think angels really are mathematical objects.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They are just a deamplituzedron on the quantum heaven of spacetime! Just trust the soience goy

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >this is a bot

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Now apply that same reasoning to modern physics

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            you're shitty bot. YWNBC....

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It would only take another israelite scientist to displace einstein why dont the modern israelites have any interest? Why are they also beholden to holding this up?

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >be schizo
    >have massive superiority complex as a symptom of the illness
    >cant understand modern physics
    >it must be a giant conspiracy, theres no possible way there is concepts beyond my understanding

    sad, many such cases

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What are you talking about? this thread is about a new area of research that says space-time isnt fundamental

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It does not. The amplutidihedron doesn't even apply to the real world.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You're wrong it has applications in q. physics

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >In mathematics and theoretical physics (especially twistor string theory), an amplituhedron is a geometric structure introduced in 2013 by Nima Arkani-Hamed and Jaroslav Trnk
            >amplituhedron
            >string theory
            >applications to physics
            Kys you fricking lying homosexual

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            In some toy theories of QM, yeah

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        please help a brainlet...so S-matrix and feymna diagrams are statements of path-dependent probability? which can be superseded by amplutidihedron which doesnt require same notion of space-time, at least in the quantum sense?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It's trivial to come up with infinitely many theories which explain the observations. This is just one more such theory as far as we know.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >It's trivial to come up with infinitely many theories which explain the observations

            ...and remain consistent with known theory?? not so much...theorists are remarkably constrained by what is already known.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >theorists are remarkably constrained by what is already known.
            That hasn't stopped them from shilling out seemingly infinitely many string theories for the past 60 years :')

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            as opposed to what exactly? surely you have some clever mechanism by which to probe planck energies? hmmm?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >planck energy
            into the trash it goes.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >infinitely many string theories

            yeah what started out as five became special instances of one. please do try and keep up.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yes. it's far less complex than the diagrams which involve an integral of the infinite possibilities, along with virtual particles and other things that make no intuitive sense. these are possible hints at an underlying structure beyond quantum mechanics. if this is true, space-time and by extension our perception of space-time aren't "real" in the sense that they're not the real thing that the universe is made of

          >In mathematics and theoretical physics (especially twistor string theory), an amplituhedron is a geometric structure introduced in 2013 by Nima Arkani-Hamed and Jaroslav Trnk
          >amplituhedron
          >string theory
          >applications to physics
          Kys you fricking lying homosexual

          volume of the amplituhedron is equivalent to a feynman diagram solution you dumb wikipedia educated homosexual

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Do you deny that it's string theory? Pig on a lipstick.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            i dont care if its used there as well you're just coping now

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Do you intentionally lie? Or are you some israelite who can't help it?
            >https://arxiv.org/abs/1212.5605
            It's a fricking string theory paper you fricking shill. Or do I need to spell out for you what super yang mills is? Idk how you live with yourself you piece of shit. It's like you know if you talked about what it really is, it'd be shat on for the garbage it is.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Why are you so mad? You got debunked in the first reply. It even says what I said later in the wikipedia article you copy pasted from. Take the L and move on, little queer.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Not an argument. Kys. You wanna play the Wikipedia game? Let's play. Your homosexual string theory already got pwned in the Wikipedia article.
            >Since the planar limit of the N = 4 supersymmetric Yang–Mills theory is a toy theory that does not describe the real world, the relevance of this technique for more realistic quantum field theories is currently[when?] unknown, but it provides promising directions for research into theories about the real world.[citation needed]
            I audibly laugh whenever I see a [citation needed] next to the absurd implications you string cultists make.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            take your meds I don't sub to string theory. I'm talking about work published in the last year and nobodies updated that part of the gayapedia article with the exact thing i'm talking about. you wouldn't know that because you get your scientific gospel from from fricking wikipedia. uneducated midwit.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >you wouldn't know that because you get your scientific gospel from from fricking wikipedia. uneducated midwit.
            Again with this lying. I cited the original paper you fricking moron. It explicitly talks about super yang mills. Or are you going to deny that it's a string theory by saying it's only "similar" to string theory? Nonetheless I have to say this is a funny cope on your end.
            >I don't sub to string theory
            More lies. Seriously, are you incapable of telling the truth? If you don't sub to string theory, then stop shilling it you fricking gay.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >It's a fricking string theory paper you fricking shill. Or do I need to spell out for you what super yang mills is?
            wow, ngl this is the most moronic thing i’ve read on here in a while, and that’s tough. why don’t you read the first sentence on Yang-Mills theory before making an ass of yourself

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Yang Mills == Super Yang Mills
            Kys liar.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            super yang mills is yang mills with supersymmetry. it’s a quantum field theory with superymmetric extensions. there are no strings in yang mills nor super yang mills. fact, cry about it

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            So you don't buy into the AdS/CFT duality?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            does it matter whether i buy it? it doesn’t change the fact that SYM is a quantum field theory

            also take note that the title of the paper that introduced AdS/CFT was:
            > “The Large N limit of superconformal field theories and supergravity”
            to translate, “superconformal FIELD theories” is super yang mills, and “supergravity” refers to another QUANTUM FIELD THEORY.

            >reeee the paper has strings and brands in it! me no like because me get my science from sabine and stormfront!!
            the paper USES parts of string theory to derive a correspondence between TWO QUANTUM FIELD THEORIES and then demonstrates without reference to the string derivation that the QFTs have parallel features, and there subsequently haste been plenty of independent demonstrations — all of which would be just as valid even if string theory never existed

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >the paper USES parts of string theory
            We're in agreement then; it's a string theory paper. This is some bizarre level of cope dude. I'm dismissing it as a string theory paper and you're sperging out about how it's only a field theory (meanwhile admitting string theories are also de facto field theories). You also say it's not a string theory paper and then explicitly admit the paper uses string theory... Thereby making it a string theory paper.

            Decent attempt at pilpul, 3/7, but your israeli trickery won't work on me because I have the education to identify your silly semantic word games.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            no, you got proved wrong because you said “super yang mills is a string theory”. you’re categorically wrong on that and i’m also debunking your attempt to defend this claim by some vague guilt-by-association shit (“hurr durr SYM is the CFT in AdS/CFT which my small brain equates with string theory”) by showing how SYM and even AdS/CFT are completely able to stand alone from string theory. these are all trivial facts if you do some reading beyond Sabine or Smolin

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >SYM and even AdS/CFT are completely able to stand alone from string theory.
            False. You're so deep into your string cult you must've assumed the proofs are in the pudding.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            you’re moronic. super yang mills is a classic, relatively easy quantum field theory (made easier THANKS to supersymmetry) that plenty of grad students study in grad school without ever having seen any string theory. it’s covered in several QFT books. you’re wrong

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Mmmm the sweet tears of copium.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >virtual particles don't make sense
            >but these new shapes totally do!
            have a nice day, popsoi tard

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >space-time aren't "real"

            ...but emergent

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >be modern physishit
    >have massive sunk cost fallacy in the form of student debt
    >see that people disagree with what I've been educated
    >they must not understand it as I do, there is no possible way people willingly disagree with what I understand

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If theologists in the middle ages had category theory and topology, they would have used "hard math, and not even fully well-defined yet" to describe their cohorts of angels to explain the trinity. They abused math and metaphysics the same way theoretical "physicists" do today.

      I think angels really are mathematical objects.

      fricking based. i too believe the angelhedrons are difficult to quantify exactly, but in this toy model we can demonstrate fallen angels and a sort of tug-of-war, as it were, between the fallen angels and the higher angels. don't ask me for details man, the math is too complicated and you need phd in math at least to even understand the idea. in this god-unified-model (GUM for short), we show that an all-encompassing theory of everything is purely geometric in nature and described entirely by angelhedrons.

      fields medal when? plz and thx

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Very interesting post, do you think these are the same angels which push and pull the planets according to the theories of the legendary Isaac Newton?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          yes! in fact we can generate a new fundamental particle, the genesis-on (genenon for short) to describe the generation of these celestial bodies. these genenons conform to the same superfields as the angelic foam. in short, we have a strong coupling of the celestial bodies newton studied, and the angels so small that we can't see them via ordinary experiments. the structure of these angelhedrons are so small, i dare say, that we need to construct a collider of biblical proportions just to get an idea of the structure of these angelhedrons.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Yes just create new particle and new dimension for every new force you haven't accounted for, it's simple science.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            That sounds quite promising indeed, here's your grant of a zillionhedron dollars to spend on your biblical colliders. Please collaborate with your local church for spiritual guidance.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Very interesting post, do you think these are the same angels which push and pull the planets according to the theories of the legendary Isaac Newton?

        yes! in fact we can generate a new fundamental particle, the genesis-on (genenon for short) to describe the generation of these celestial bodies. these genenons conform to the same superfields as the angelic foam. in short, we have a strong coupling of the celestial bodies newton studied, and the angels so small that we can't see them via ordinary experiments. the structure of these angelhedrons are so small, i dare say, that we need to construct a collider of biblical proportions just to get an idea of the structure of these angelhedrons.

        That sounds quite promising indeed, here's your grant of a zillionhedron dollars to spend on your biblical colliders. Please collaborate with your local church for spiritual guidance.

        fricking kek

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Even if it works it will be replaced some other day because the map is not the territory. You can never figure out the real stuff of the universe. Read some Kant moron.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Any good place to read about these amplituhedrons at the grad level?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      look to nima arkani-hamed

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >I was BTFOd
    >REEEEEEE
    >JANNISS PLZ DELET
    Fricking pathetic. Kys you god dam moron

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >image for ants
    Stfu. You're so stupid you can't even copy and paste images correctly. You some kind of boomer? Prolly some boomer Black person samegayging that he's such a dinosaur he hasn't realized ~~*string theory*~~ is dead.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Prove it, b***h

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >I'm such a sensitive Sally that I'll threaten to dox the girl who BTFOd me
    You're pathetic.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

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