To a student who wanted to know where I stood with regard to the author of Zarathustra, I replied that I had long since stopped reading him. Why? “I find him too naïve….” I hold his enthusiasms, his fervors against him. He demolished so many idols only to replace them with others: a false iconoclast, with adolescent aspects and a certain virginity, a certain innocence inherent in his solitary’s career. He observed men only from a distance. Had he come closer, he could have neither conceived nor promulgated the superman, that preposterous, laughable, even grotesque chimera, a crotchet which could occur only to a mind without time to age, to know the long serene disgust of detachment.
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>zarathrustra... LE EVIL
absolute state of pseud untermenschen
as I thought just a typical pseud nihilist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Cioran
Couldn't even be original while seething at his superiors
he's right, the Overman is capeshit levels of cope.
Nietz writes as if the average man is not chained by law courts and accidents.
And he also plagirised most of his good ideas from lesser known writers.
You've never read Nietzsche. Stop pretending
>You've never read Nietzsche
>You've never read
Could lifting save him?
Yes
dyel pencilnecks are always spiteful
Did Nietzsche lift? Do most guys who lift give a shit about philosophy or a word Nietzsche had to say?
Yes. Nietzsche was in the military
Nietzsche was in the military and regularly hiked for 8 hours per day in either the Swiss Alps or the hilly terrain of the Italian coastline.
This might look like a juvenile question at first glance but we know so much more about brain chemistry and the relation of gut health to depression now, that I genuinely wonder if these pessimistic philosophers would exist if they'd spent time doing exercise in the sun and eating right.
Schopenhauer, as famously pointed out by Nietzsche, also didn't live the life of a pessimist, taking cold baths every morning, walking for two hours per day, and eating at fine restaurants and visiting the opera. Whereas guys like Cioran and Mainländer really lived their philosophy. I really do wonder if lack of exercise and physical health plays a part.
Cioran use to work out in cemeteries and he cured his insomnia by exhausting his body everyday at the age of 27 through cycling all over the France.
Mainlander served in military and was a tragic aristocratic romantic type figure with absolute discipline i.e he remained virgin his whole life because he took a vow of virginity at the death of his mother. He enlisted in army to serve his country and develop discipline.
>he cured his insomnia
What?
You ever have insomnia? High activity seems to help.
>regularly hiked for 8 hours per day in either the Swiss Alps or the hilly terrain of the Italian coastline
Lucky bastard. Meanwhile, I have to hike in picrelated.
Cioran on Cioran:
Mais je ne suis qu’un déconneur’ / ‘But I’m just a joker’
Why does nobody read these posts? What is the language they inhabit?
>He demolished so many idols only to replace them with others: a false iconoclast, with adolescent aspects and a certain virginity, a certain innocence inherent in his solitary’s career.
Absolutely correct, in fact possibly the best and most concise BTFOing of Nietzsche that anyone's ever done
>He demolished so many idols only to replace them with others
Literally filtered by Neitzsche once again. This is literally the point of the transvaluation of all values. This is astronomical levels of pseud, like leaving off half of Decartes famous quote, pseuds leave off the rest of the death of god, where WE HAVE TO BECOME GODS OURSELF.
>WE HAVE TO BECOME GODS OURSELF.
So just making an idol of the self, then; exactly what Cioran pointed out
Neetch and those who fawn over him uncritically (and who he himself would resent for doing so) can never understand the genuine essence of pessimism because they're failed romantics who are unable to cease clinging to the idea - the idol - that life "ought" to be "affirmed" in spite of its utter lack of positive attributes, because the human race has hardwired itself to believe that being alive is inherently doubleplusgood
His philosophy ultimately only succeeds in fooling those who mistakenly think themselves to be post-Christian with its sparkling aphorisms and illusory bravado, but in the end it's merely (in the words of IQfy's favorite anhedonic Detroit-dweller) "materialistic mysticism, a sleight of mind"
Life ought to be affirmed because of its lack of positive attributes (whatever those are). The belief in positive and negative attributes itself is a romantic holdover which you seem to have clung to yourself.
The only answer is to kick ourselves loose of the earth!
>IQfy's favorite anhedonic Detroit-dweller
Try Florida. That homosexual like most Michiganders escaped down south. I like Ligotti but I have no respect for a man that can't tolerate the cold.
He stopped writing after moving to Florida. Detroit was his muse.
Florida is where intellect goes to die.
Are you under the impression that you are post-Christian?
how much longer is modernity going to need to fumble around in the dark before a proper solution to nihilism is found?
>solution to nihilism
the faith required to believe this is
possible, you might as well be Christian.
His comments on Nietzsche's and Schopenhauer's music tastes are even better.
Cioran worshipped Bach which why I know his taste is supreme. If your still listening to rock music and your past 18 your a fricking psude.
I listen to whatever sounds good.
This. Its funny the myth of "classical is for the high minded." I was raised on classical. My old man is obsessed. He even bought one of the first cd players because someone told him the highs are better. I'm a musician. My favorite music is 90's pop and alternative.
My cousin is an orchestra player. Masters in music. His favorite music is modern pop.
You've done your part. You told us plenty. You've known the pain of ages. And even now you think, as any person would, that this can't be happening. Is it education? Morals, faith? Just an imprint of a lifetime of stories? Face to face with oblivion, which is where you are, and you still think that help is coming. The world you were born into is made to save you. Isn't that right? Of course it is. Everyone knows that. Until your last breath, you know it.
Is that Jack Nance?
No that's Eraserhead
>Ciora
Who?