>To be an Atheist you have to go through Christianity
what did he mean by this?
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>To be an Atheist you have to go through Christianity what did he mean by this?
Children get indoctrinated early, later make the best firmest atheists for having gone through that hell
Hes a moron and only pseuds and degenerate leftists read his works.
Let's see a point-by-point refutation of his works then.
you have to go back
So that's a no?
Do you? Let's see.
i wasn’t the one who posted that. it’s just that your snarky “*snorts* let’s see a point by point refutation of everything he ever wrote” response doesn’t own him, it’s just gay and makes you look like a dweeb.
>nooo you can't just ask someone to justify their categorical dismissal of a philosopher
Do you have a source on that?
Source?
A source. I need a source.
Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.
No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.
You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.
Do you have a degree in that field?
A college degree? In that field?
Then your arguments are invalid.
No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.
Correlation does not equal causation.
CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.
You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.
Nope, still haven't.
I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a glormpf supporter. A moron.
interesting reaction.
baste
nice pasta but the whole "correlation doesn't equal causation" thing is kind of played out, much like "burden of proof" and other leddit nonsense.
it's not nonsense. it's a normal response to a crappy argument. you thinking it's played out just goes to show how shit discussion has become on IQfy.
> implying there ever was discussion on IQfy
>the whole "correlation doesn't equal causation" thing is kind of played out
Hardly. The proof of any theory is in the experimental evidence. That is rightfully the gold standard of proof. Many seemingly theories and plans, which seemed beautiful and perfect on paper, have fallen to the ground when they were put to the experimental test.
meds
yes Slovenians are meds
>How do you know if Shit is going to come out of my ass? You haven't even seen it yet.
Neither of you have read his works, he has been releasing 2+ books per year since the 80's.
Surely, no onw has time to read 2 whole books in a year.
How many of his books have you read? I bet it's less than 15
Why would I read his books? His movies and lectures are far better at communicating his ideas.
And you know this how if you've never read his books? BTFO time to commit suicide NOW NOW NOW
true for lesser works like violence or first as tragedy, but hugely false for his major works like sublime object and less than nothing.
Yes and at least half of the second book will be self-plagiarized from the first one, which itself will have self-plagiarized from an earlier book. It makes it quite easy to keep up with him because you can skip to the new stuff.
t. has read a fair amount of Zizek
Judaism is so moronic you have to be a child to believe it.
Why does he look israeli?
Because you’re a paranoid antisemite
>posts an animu
*softly chuckles*
No he is israeli. Dumbass
Early life[edit]
Žižek was born in Ljubljana, PR Slovenia, Yugoslavia, into a middle-class family.[21] His father Jože Žižek was an economist and civil servant from the region of Prekmurje in eastern Slovenia. His mother Vesna, a native of the Gorizia Hills in the Slovenian Littoral, was an accountant in a state enterprise. His parents were atheists.[22] He spent most of his childhood in the coastal town of Portorož, where he was exposed to Western film, theory and popular culture.[3][23] When Slavoj was a teenager his family moved back to Ljubljana where he attended Bežigrad High School.[23] Originally wanting to become a filmmaker himself, he abandoned these ambitions and chose to pursue philosophy instead.[24]
I've read his wiki.
>No parents early life
>loves coommunism
>big nose
>monkey chin like Harvey weinstein or Ron Perlman
You're missing obvious signs, he's deflecting by saying he hates israelites.
Come up with something. And let us know what you think.
I already did. You don't have a good argument.
>I DONT LIKE HIS NOSE! ALRIGHT!?
Ah. I mean I wouldn’t mind if he were, but I just don’t believe your sob story. You sound like an antisemite, anon. That’s what’s bothering you?
You’re not making any sense anon.
>You’re not making any sense anon.
Im disagreeing with sterners criticism of what he coined the "pious atheist"
That's not even what I said Black person
wait a minute, you aren't an antisemite?
read his Slovene wiki then you frick
>Slavoj Žižek se je rodil 21. marca 1949 v Ljubljani. Njegova starša sta bila ateista. Oče, Jože Žižek, je bil ekonomist in državni uradnik iz Prekmurja, mati Vesna pa računovodkinja v državnem podjetju. Otroštvo je preživel v Portorožu, v zadnjem razredu osnovne šole pa so se Žižkovi ponovno preselili v Ljubljano.
typical Slovene communist elite upbringing
Most communists were israelites
Read Black person read
>Google
>Wikipedia
Again, read homie, read!
Have you read anything anywhere backing up your paranoid suspicion that he’s israeli?
>No, again, read homie, read.
Not him but I'm just pointing out Google and wikipedia are extremely pozzed. You want to bring up a source to argue with then get an actual book.
Doesn't pass the physiognomy check.
He did when he was younger.
Polytheism (many) -> Christianity (one) -> atheism (none) -> anti-Christianity (-1) -> anti-polytheism (negative many).
yeah this
the negative bit pretty much doesn't exist though, since that'd probably be something like KILLING god(s).
And who says you can't?
He's right, but not for the reasons he thinks.
To be a nihilist, to want to return to nothing, to say that nothing is true, you must accept that everything came from nothing, creation ex nihilo.
All morals that atheists have are fading holdovers from Christian morality, held irrationally despite belief in nothing. People who cannot silence their conscience eventually return to Christ.
>To be a nihilist
>to want to
Nope, Totally wrong
>It"s another "atheism is nihilism" post
Because it is. Everyone saying otherwise are just coping hard.
My morals come from observation not Christianity. Christianity came to the same conclusions because those who write the stories saw it too and needed a way to order everyone into following it in a time of before science for their own benefit. Just because we ultimately don't need the religion anymore to organise ourselves, doesn't make its teachings any less true.
>in a time of before science
I pray to science 5 times a day as well, fellow gentlesir!
Exactly what he says. Atheism is in effect if not by stated definition a negation of Abrahamic monotheism. The atheism of the Greeks in relation to the gods of the pantheon and so on was not the same thing because the nature of the religion is different.
atheism literally means no gods you fricking pseud
imo the vast majority of christians today are atheists larping
none of them had a vision from christ or even believe that he was ressurected
He's doing the Lacanian negation
Surprisingly it aligns with the israeli mysticism view of panentheism
He's classically conditioning you with his hand movements
Love this
>Would you like to learn more
anarkiddies seethe at atheists because that stand seeing someone stop believing in God but still believe in reality
>what did he mean by this?
To be an Atheist you have to go through Christianity
atheism isn't generic. it mainly concerns christian european intellectual and moral developments.
>you HAVE to
Tired of fat communists telling me what I have to do.
>Man, I sure am tired of philosophy teachers tellin’ me stuff!
the only people filtered by Zizek are contrarian twitter posters (complete wastes of time), normies and American Catholics.
That makes him de facto Based
>the only people filtered by Zizek are contrarian twitter posters (complete wastes of time), normies and American Catholics.
I don't necessarily agree with him, but I think he's a smart writer. His writings on the subject of Christianity, in particular, are often quite interesting. I recall coming across some remarks he made on the filioque and being surprised by how knowledgeable he was on the subject, and how thoughtful and insightful his analysis was. So what is it about Zizek that American Catholics are supposedly filtered by? I find that his status as a fallen away Catholic often informs his writing, and gives it an interesting edge and a certain piquant flavor.
t. American Catholic
>tellin’
he's saying someone has to invent God in order to deny him
No one original idea that this guy had that wasn’t just an undergrad-thesis-level clarification of someone else’s idea.
There are no truly original ideas
>Lacanian analysis of a netflix movie!
It's all so tiresome
Yet IQfy loves CounterCurrents
Normie atheism is
No god + jesus was cool tho I guess haha
It’s funny because it’s the exact opposite. This is typical with Zizek; he’s contrarian purely for the sake of being so.
schneed and so on
>degenerate spineless pseud who will kiss the feet of any protected group who tells them to do so
If you're fat, I disregard your opinion on anything but food.
I will pass on anything he has to say philosophically.
>not also disregarding food unless he cooks too
Just that thing people do where they try too hard to be profound.
I'm not sure, I'll ask him tomorrow and get back to you
>what did he mean by this?
As always, there is no deeper meaning.
His statements are all just pseudo-questions meant to force others to do the hard thinking.
Hoping one of those questions will eventually stick with someone and grant him a response "aha! So by this you meant [something profound]!", in which case Zizek would gladly take the opportunity "Why yes, that is exactly what I meant, this [something profound] was indeed my creative genius exclusively."
How many more years do you think he has left in the tank? I'm betting he'll go at 78.
To be edgy you must rebel against something
>what did he mean by this?
To be an Atheist you have to go through Christianity