>tradition is bad because this one tradition I made up is bad

>tradition is bad because this one tradition I made up is bad
Wow, such riveting social commentary. Thank you, Shirley Jackson!

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you want to reduce it to tradition it is that blindly following tradition for the sake of tradition (tradlarp) is bad and especially bad if the reason you do it is because everyone else is doing it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >blindly following tradition for the sake of tradition is bad
      Why exactly is this bad? The only reason to be against tradition is a blind "new thing good, old thing bad" mindset

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >its an antinatalist
        There is always something more traditional and authentic, you are arguing for infinite regression and missing the point.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          How the frick did you get "antinatalist" from that?
          And it doesn't matter if there exists older tradition, the existence of a "better" option doesn't make other options bad. It's not wrong to buy a Honda because Lamborghini exists

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >How the frick did you get "antinatalist" from that?
            I didn't, my post explained it. Do you not understand how greentext works? they are not literal unless they are a direct quote.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Because something being somewhat old doesn’t mean it isn’t having negative effects.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Because Jackson is reacting to blind tradition without substance and not an active tradition that keeps something like the Bill of Rights as an achievement (i.e. it was a different time, anon).

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Why is doing thing without any critical thought behind it bad?
        Let me guess, youre religious

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The only reason to be against tradition is a blind "new thing good, old thing bad" mindset

        Absolutely not lol. You can be critical of tradition and critical of new thought. I agree that rebellion for the sake of rebellion is foolish. But it is the same kind of foolishness as tradition for traditions sake. They are both the same thing.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >being overly reductive is moronic because this one anon is moronic

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So what real world traditions are in any way comparable to throwing rocks at people for no reason?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I already explained that, any tradition you blindly follow for the sake of tradition or because other people are doing it. If those are your reasons for following a tradition it is meaningless to you and you end up corrupting that tradition especially in the latter case of doing it because other people are, you are handing that tradition over to the mob mentality. Literature might be beyond you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Circumcision

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      paying taxes to and exchanging money with pedos

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        wait I was thinking of the wrong short story

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      "Sexual cleansing" rituals (there was a story about how one of the professional cherry busters was AIDS infected and still "working" awhile ago and another about a guy in Malaysia being prosecuted for it).

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's about the Draft and the very real fear of being drafted. I don't think anyone today would disagree, given that they'd be dying for Israel and MIC kickbacks to senators.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The draft view was largely applied years later during Vietnam. I don't think it fits with her style as a writer, from what I have read of her she tended to be more general in theme and not playing to the times, but I have not read much of her work so could be wrong.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You all make compelling arguments and I have realized the error of my ways. Farewell.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >American literature
    >Fyodor Dostoyevskiy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He's a Tale Blazer.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A more realistic approach is that tradition is neither inherently good nor inherently bad. There are good traditions, which you should keep following; there are bad traditions, which you should stop following; there are neutral traditions, which it is up to you whether to follow.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    is bad because this one tradition I made up is bad
    Thargelia was a thing, you know.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's the internet and you're starting a thread rather than replying to someone, I don't know if you're serious or sarcastic. Shirley Jackson doesn't have a thesis she's demonstrating in 'The Lottery.' Her work typically rests on the terror of the unknown, and the most unknown place is the mind. 'The Haunting of Hill House' is rightly considered a masterpiece because all the phantasmagoria that the protagonist experiences may very well be hallucinations or delusions, it's effectively impossible to tell. This leaves the reader with the disquieting knowledge that the 'ghosts' of Hill House are not confined to its grounds, but may be found in all of us. Any of us may be in error, or mentally unwell; then how would we tell our own thoughts from what goes bump in the night? A similar theme emerges in 'We Have Always Lived in the Castle' which progresses, step by step, from the story of two rustic sisters shunned by the rest of their New England town to instead two unwell reclusive co-conspirators in a family massacre who spiritually occupy the position of witches living in a house in the woods. Horror also excels in the short form. Her story 'Paranoia' also deals with doubt, fear, and the unknown; 'The Lottery' was published in her lifetime, but 'Paranoia' was not published until decades after her death and so hasn't become part of the U.S. high school curriculum. I also love 'The Witch' for how much power it packs in so few pages. 'The Lottery' isn't upsetting because of its protagonists adherence to destructive tradition, but because as the audience we are made vulnerable in how little we understand this culture. Only in its final paragraphs does realization hit us, even though we have not been lied to, only kept ignorant. Fear rests in the unknown, and there's so much you don't know.

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