I invested so many hours into this shit, only to realize that I'm shit at it. That's all. >just add a mystery
Well there is one. Problem is that it's extremely obvious
I'll try to truncate it. So basically it's a murder mystery. In this land of mine, you have a lord whom some years ago united everyone with the help of a foreign power. In doing so he left his old, native wife and married a foreigner. Fast forward and the lord dies, and the two "supposed to be obvious" options for who killed him are his wife, the spurned women, and her brother, who represents the native resistance. In the end the murder is actually a false flag set up by the foreign power as a means to instigate a more thorough take over, but I made it too fricking obvious
just add a twist anon, its that easy. make it so theres yet another person involved, or if it's so obvious, subvert everyone's expectations and muddy the waters. like what if there really was a murder after all, but not in the way everyone expected or done by who it seemed so obvious. writing is so fun tbh ne?
If you don't have a mystery you like enough, go back and embed a second 'actual' mystery that is only revealed to exist after the mediocre one is solved.
The real murderer was his new wife, and it was justified. Fearing a lynching by the enraged native populace and/or nobility, she told the foreign spymaster attached to her retinue to sort it out, which created an opportunity for the foreign power to frame the resistance and also to consolidate their power.
The king was weak on local native lords, and the foreign ambassador, brother to the queen, feared that he may have been working with them. When word reached him that the king was attempting to meet in private with his first born, full native son, he convinced the queen that he was trying to cut her sons out of their inheritance, pushing her to poison him
cool. keep writing it and do a big rewrtie of the thing at the end with better wording and flow and word usage and your book will objectivly be better :3
>realizing there's no mystery
People are moronic. It'll still be a mystery for lots of them, especially if you market it as a fantasy novel rather than a mystery novel.
>The trouble with most English mystery writers, however well known in their world, is that they can't turn a corner. About halfway through a book they start fooling about with alibis, analyzing bits and pieces of evidence and so on. The story dies on them. Every book which is any good has to turn the corner. You get to the point where everything implicit in the original situation has been developed or explored, and then a new element has to be introduced which is not implied from the beginning but which is seen to be part of the situation when it shows up.
t. chandler
I would not even attempt to write one. I almost never predict plot twists and I've never solved a mystery before the characters did. I'm pretty bad at critical thinking
I'm not an expert on mystery but if I was gonna write a mystery book I would read the top authors in the genre like Agatha Christie. It can't be that hard to do if an old c**t like that was queefing them out of her dustbox. There's gotta be a trick to it.
I think the thing is supposed to be that you work backwards. You start with the mystery and then the purpose of the plot is to obfuscate it by starting the reader 100 steps removed from the answers and throwing up fake answers in their path to mislead them.
Just go back to the beginning and add a mystery then, you fricking moron. What even is the purpose of this thread?
I invested so many hours into this shit, only to realize that I'm shit at it. That's all.
>just add a mystery
Well there is one. Problem is that it's extremely obvious
describe the mystery I'm hooked
I'll try to truncate it. So basically it's a murder mystery. In this land of mine, you have a lord whom some years ago united everyone with the help of a foreign power. In doing so he left his old, native wife and married a foreigner. Fast forward and the lord dies, and the two "supposed to be obvious" options for who killed him are his wife, the spurned women, and her brother, who represents the native resistance. In the end the murder is actually a false flag set up by the foreign power as a means to instigate a more thorough take over, but I made it too fricking obvious
are there coitus scenes in this novel of yours?
Sex? No, at least not yet
Not sure how to do that. Where's the intrigue?
>Sex? No, at least not yet
I don't get it
Neither do you characters 😉
just add a twist anon, its that easy. make it so theres yet another person involved, or if it's so obvious, subvert everyone's expectations and muddy the waters. like what if there really was a murder after all, but not in the way everyone expected or done by who it seemed so obvious. writing is so fun tbh ne?
That's not obvious to me at all. Just take care to execute it well. Your idea sounds interesting and original. Don't despair and keep going.
>the israelites did it
There are no israelites in my story
If you don't have a mystery you like enough, go back and embed a second 'actual' mystery that is only revealed to exist after the mediocre one is solved.
The real murderer was his new wife, and it was justified. Fearing a lynching by the enraged native populace and/or nobility, she told the foreign spymaster attached to her retinue to sort it out, which created an opportunity for the foreign power to frame the resistance and also to consolidate their power.
You're onto one of my ideas.
The king was weak on local native lords, and the foreign ambassador, brother to the queen, feared that he may have been working with them. When word reached him that the king was attempting to meet in private with his first born, full native son, he convinced the queen that he was trying to cut her sons out of their inheritance, pushing her to poison him
>get 1/4 of the way finished before realizing there's no mystery
m'stery
UHHH say frick it and just call it a "fantasy" book only and quickly delete the thread?
I got a quarter of the way through my novel before realizing I don't know how to write prose
cool. keep writing it and do a big rewrtie of the thing at the end with better wording and flow and word usage and your book will objectivly be better :3
>try to write smut porn novel
>get 1/2 of the way finished before realizing that there is no one but mc
>make the reader fall in love with mc
>have them sext with mc
I guess you could make this with AI or whatever. Crazy shit.
>make the reader write the other half of the book
>...
>profit
>realizing there's no mystery
People are moronic. It'll still be a mystery for lots of them, especially if you market it as a fantasy novel rather than a mystery novel.
>The trouble with most English mystery writers, however well known in their world, is that they can't turn a corner. About halfway through a book they start fooling about with alibis, analyzing bits and pieces of evidence and so on. The story dies on them. Every book which is any good has to turn the corner. You get to the point where everything implicit in the original situation has been developed or explored, and then a new element has to be introduced which is not implied from the beginning but which is seen to be part of the situation when it shows up.
t. chandler
How do I turn the corner?
I would not even attempt to write one. I almost never predict plot twists and I've never solved a mystery before the characters did. I'm pretty bad at critical thinking
You cannot write fiction without any mystery; no such thing exists
There's your fantasy
>I AM AN AUTHOR
fantasy hangs on economics.
Meaning?
I'm not an expert on mystery but if I was gonna write a mystery book I would read the top authors in the genre like Agatha Christie. It can't be that hard to do if an old c**t like that was queefing them out of her dustbox. There's gotta be a trick to it.
I think the thing is supposed to be that you work backwards. You start with the mystery and then the purpose of the plot is to obfuscate it by starting the reader 100 steps removed from the answers and throwing up fake answers in their path to mislead them.
How do you actually write fantasy without it being completely derivative and unoriginal?
You don't. Fantasy readers want derivative formulaic junk
post your own work
Do they actually want that or is it all they are given?