New LTS release in 10 days!
Thoughts? Opinions? Anyone trying out the beta yet?
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Ubuntu 24.04
New LTS release in 10 days!
Thoughts? Opinions? Anyone trying out the beta yet?
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In two weeks, I'm gonna have to uninstall snapd again
I'm running the beta on a spare Thinkpad atm and giving snaps a try.
They feel much improved since last I tried it years ago. Much faster startup times on everything. Proper theme support also. And a lot of software is available on the app center (still no flatpaks tho).
Get with the times, grandpa. That was over 10 years ago.
Startup times were not why I uninstalled snapd.
What is your reasoning for not using snaps and even going as far as using Ubuntu but uninstalling snapd altogether?
Genuinely curious.
snaps:
>are pigfat
>use too much RAM
>were silently replacing traditional apt packages
>Auto update functionality is not controllable by user
>Only canonical could host / build them (walled garden)
I'm sure there were other reasons, it's been a while. Maybe they changed some things, but the initial approach turned me off on them.
Just didn't see the need for them and since I haven't had any issues after uninstalling, just don't see the need to re-enable them.
>use ubuntu but not snaps
Nobody installs ubuntu because it has snapd.
I've been using ubuntu from before snaps existed, it's stable and comfy, and I'm not going to change my OS just because the vendor is pushing a product I don't find useful.
>Auto update functionality is not controllable by user
not true
https://snapcraft.io/docs/managing-updates
It was at one point true, which is why I stopped using it. That they've fixed it isn't a point in its favor, it's simply neutral.
>However, aren't vendors in favor of using snaps and pushing their software as snaps (vs deb/flatpak)? Like Firefox, and now Thunderbird also
No idea, if I need a semi-sandboxed application like that I use docker.
If I wanted a truly sandboxed, separated application, then VM.
snaps just aren't solving a problem I have.
>>are pigfat
they're MUCH lighter than flatpaks albeit
Snaps do not integrate well with Kubuntu and Lubuntu. They don't have a graphical snap updater, you have to update using the terminal or let the daemon do it automatically which can take several hours, which is a problem especially when you have a fresh install with a very outdated Firefox. Developers don't care about addressing it.
That sucks. Isn't there a standalone snap store people can install where you can manage your snaps?
What about the Snap Backend for Discover?
You can install but not update snaps last I tested, fire up a VM and test it yourself.
Black person you can install and update snaps no problem on kubuntu discover out of the box what're you on about
snap-store --quit && sudo snap refresh snap-store
not saying that makes it better but i hope it helps you
>over 10 years ago
I installed a build from like 2021 since I needed the 32-bit version for an old netbook, and it came with Amazon Shopping preinstalled
Then you got a malware injected .iso. the Amazon shit was added and removed in 2013
fpbp. why are they still pushing it?
Last I checked the only applications that anyone is actually going to use that are snapped are web browsers, which do actually benefit from the sandboxing. Anyway using the Mozilla-provided Firefox apt is explicitly supported by Canonical.
ya but, flatpaks are just better. I don't get it.
Flatpaks is only for gui apps. Snaps is for gui apps, cli apps, parts of the base system (eg gnome), docker itself, complete build environments like dotnet, and possibly much more.
DGMW flatpaks are nice, but snaps do so much more.
jewbuntu, make sure you shop at amazon goy
What does this mean for Linux Mint?
Nothing. LMDE Chads saty winning.
imagine have a broken os that you have to update often
but it still is broken anyways
Works on my machine aka skill issue
Ubuntu still remains one of the (if not the) most popular LInux distro's out there. It's tech therefore it's relevant for tech discussions, no matter how much people memehate on it.
Say what you want about Canonical but they got a big piece of the market. Plus a lot of derivative distros are based off Ubuntu.
I know all that, but macOS has a way bigger share and isn't discussed by IQfy at all, especially outside of /fat/. I didn't see any threads about it for months and now I've seen 20 this week.
Bro either needs a pair of new glasses, or needs to update his filters.
There are /fat/ threads all the time.
Bro is not a pronoun.
>especially outside of /fat/
Okay nvm it is I who needs new glasses, mb
I see some thread occasionally. But you're right it's mostly /fat/. Perhaps this is the result of it being a normie OS, and not for tech authusiasts like us? Same with /fwt/
Why is IQfy posting so much about Ubuntu recently? It was dead to IQfy from like 2019 to 2023.
Debian that just werks.
Debian already just works. Maybe there's a difference if you use a laptop or something.
Shills. Why do you think fedora got so popular all of a sudden? And all the technology that surrounds it (gnome, wayland, pipewire, flatpak).
They were going to launch it with a botnet in it. Do not trust.
Also, curious what the gets were.
sauce
They were going to release it with xz active.
Didn't they delay the beta for a week _because_ of xz?
Good points. However, aren't vendors in favor of using snaps and pushing their software as snaps (vs deb/flatpak)? Like Firefox, and now Thunderbird also
>updoot NOW NOW NOW
No.
Did Gnome fix the thumbnail meme? I thought some hue developer showed working thumbnails like a year ago.
They have a better filepicker now but it still doesn't generate new thumbnails, only shows ones already generated by the file manager.
Nice can't wait for absolutely nothing to work except dilation reminder snap packages until 24.04.03
The beta works great for me so far. I've tried both 22.04 LTS and 23.10, but after install they consistently kept giving the "oops something went wrong" error popups because some service crashed.
24.04 LTS Beta doesn't have that issue for me. Win.
I had troubles getting Docker Desktop for Linux to work tho, despite Docker providing 24.04 support. AppArmor was being a b***h. And once that was fixed virtiofs refused to work. I just canned it and installed the Engine instead, which works like a charm.
Checked. How can I upgrade 22.04 to 24.04 beta?
Upgrades from an existing system are available after the first point release (ie once 24.04.1 is out) with `do-release-upgrade`. And only from LTS to LTS and non-LTS to non-LTS.
So you can't I think, unless you install the beta iso from scratch.
Too much hassle. I only recently nearly recovered from dependency hell when I (don't ask why) tried to install Intel graphics drivers using an outdated guide on Intel's official website. I'll just wait, 22.04 is not that bad actually. I have the feeling everything runs much better with every new version. My first Linux was an old Fedora, can't remember which, it was 2004 or something. Then Ubuntu 5.10, they even shipped me 10 CDs for free to fricking Serbia) which I gave away to friends.
Yeah fair. 22.04 is LTS and gets support for a few more years. More so if you enable Pro.
>5.10
That's pretty oldskool. I remember throwing away a few 6.06 cds a while back.
Is rhe pro subscription as cancer as people say?
Extended security and live kernel updates for 5 devices (running LTS) for free? Sign me the frick up. If you have a company and you throw some money against it you get 24/7 phone support also, among other things.
Sure it phones home occasionally to check your license, but you shouldn't be using Ubuntu in the first place if you're worried about that stuff.
Man, you're one fire! Check'd. Okay, I'm convinced. Btw, I have an Ubuntu One account since a long, long time.
Oh man, Ubuntu One. Didn't the cloud storage part of that shut down years ago? It's just an authentication thing now.
I already have and use Google Drive and OneDrive (also natively supported by 24.04 now btw).
cont.
>also natively supported by 24.04 now btw
I believe this is primarily a GNOME 46 feature. Not necessarily just to Ubuntu 24.04
Yeah, I even filed some bugs with their Android version (something about the sync not working when switching mobile data -> wifi).
Oh, and it was a very different time then.
As a superior debian xfce user, I don't care what you peasants use to watch your anime porn.
If you're happy then I'm happy for you, anon!
>Debian + XFCE
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEXOOOO
It it really that top notch?
It works for my needs. Use what works for you.
This is Numbat.
cute onahole
This is him being Noble
derp forgot pic
He cute.
he slick, he quick, but most importantly, he majestic
I'm in love all over again.
Would (pet).
all in a row
Me first from the left.
>release has 10 years of life
>only use the first two
what is even the fricking point, you clowns
I like snaps
They take up way less space than goypaks
noble bump
Cutie eyes
erotic
why do americans pronounce Ubuntu - Oobanntoo? Are they mentally disabled? Its fricking Ooboontoo, you fricking pieces of shit
I'm so sorry that I can't speak ooga booga well.
It's the only distro with plug and play vscode and pycharm (what a working white man needs). They also do font rendering better than anyone else in Linux.
>It's the only distro with plug and play vscode
What do you mean? You don't have to add MS's repo?
Why when they are extending support back to even 14.04?
If you cared you would be either using SUSE, Fedora, Rocky or Debian.
because I want cmake 3.28 and clang18 without building it. I'm about to start building a new library at my job so this is perfect timing. I'm given complete liberty on build system and compiler choices as long as it is built in a container, so I don't want to use old shit for now.
Only care because of PopOS
>Thoughts? Opinions? Anyone trying out the beta yet?
No. Waiting for Ubuntu kernel 6.8 to become available on Linux Mint. That is all.
Does Debian also offer a HWE kernel or are you stuck with the release's original kernel until the next version?
They don't call it that but after about a year into the release there will be a newer kernel in the backports repo.
just install arch and you never have to update ever again
you also get fresh chinese backdoors as a bonus